lewis2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Hi all a mate of mine applying for his sgc has cabinet installed etc only problem is he has been arrested several times for assault + battery and was also remanded in custody in her majestys prisons for 3days but was released with bo charges or further action taken with every arrest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) Our survey says............ Now on a personal note. Firstly, do you really want to be friends with somebody like that, and secondly, i hope/pray he isnt granted a SGC. Edited September 24, 2012 by MM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.philmypower. Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 No chance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hedd-wyn Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I'm not sure pal, best check with the FLO to be safe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 (edited) It's possible. Unlikely, but possible. At the end of the day he's got nothing to lose by applying, and as long as he's 100% honest about his past during the application process he's got a chance. Edited September 24, 2012 by poontang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hillmouse Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Q. 14 and the contersignatory section may be a tad tricky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fatcatsplat Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 Anybody looking to buy a cheap cabinet - Unwanted present Joking aside, no chance if he has been convicted, accepted a caution or otherwise been found guilty in any way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 the police will view the application as they would any other. telling the truth is the key thing. if he is un successful he will get his application fee refunded. he could have saved money on the cabinet though as a cert can be granted without one. certainly won't be a straightforward application. if he has seen a probation officer i would imagine that may help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 There is nothing preventing him from applying, or making him a prohibited person under the firearms act 1968. However, with what you've told us, I suggest he unbolts his cabinet and offers it up for sale. On the information you've given (I'm assuming things are as they seem, I am well aware that things are not always as clear as they may initially appear) the police should not grant a certificate, he is not of good character and he does not appear to be a suitable person to be entrusted with firearms. The police don't give certificates to people who have been in major trouble with the police (except where Hungerford, Dunblane and Cumbria are concerned - but thankfully they rarely mess it up so badly). Obviously you may know more about this than your telling, but are you sure you want a friend who has been in this kind of trouble? It looks bad for you, and it does not sound like he's a good person. While the police do get it wrong at times (both accidentally and deliberately), generally speaking there is no smoke without fire, the idea of this person having shotguns is not something to help me sleep at night - are you comfortable with the idea? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 The police don't give certificates to people who have been in major trouble with the police (except where Hungerford, Dunblane and Cumbria are concerned - but thankfully they rarely mess it up so badly). it rarely has such wide reaching consequences........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I suspect we are getting 5% of the story. Why would anyone keep getting arrested for assault and battery, but it is never pursued? On what sketchy details you have cited - I don't think he would get a certificate and nor should he. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HDAV Posted September 24, 2012 Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 I suspect we are getting 5% of the story. Why would anyone keep getting arrested for assault and battery, but it is never pursued? Bouncer? Debt collector? Undercover copper? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lewis2012 Posted September 24, 2012 Author Report Share Posted September 24, 2012 He's more of a friend of a friend and I only knw what he's told me not from what happened he asked me and I said I'm unsure and the best way is to contact the firearms licensing and ask but I thought I'd ask you guys. Weather or nt it looks good on me or nt I dnt hang around with him, I have my own family I work for the NHS and am a well respected Citizen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Anyone can 'apply';being granted is an entirely different thing.There's only one way to find out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Hope not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muddy Funker Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 Yeah he sounds like just the sort of person I'd want to see with a shotgun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robl Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 He can apply. Then he’ll have a chat to the FEO who will make a decision. If he was arrested a few times as a teenager but is now 35 years old with a decent job then it’s possible that he’s be fine and get a cert. If he was last arrested 6 months ago and is known to be a local thug/pub-fighter then it’s likely he won’t get the cert. However, there are plenty of places he can go clay shooting without a cert. Quite a few shooting sites will happily send you round with a scorer who can double as a ‘responsible person’ in terms of being allowed to use a gun on site. Not having a cert to own a gun doesn’t mean he can’t enjoy the sport if he wants to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 It's all been covered here, and the only way to find out is to apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 In answer to your question: No, he is able to apply as is anyone. But i do hope it will be turned down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRamsay Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 How come these posts are always concerning someones friend,......... And never the person actually putting the post up in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupert Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) Apply and be judged by those who make the decisions. Edited September 25, 2012 by Rupert Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
storme37 Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) hopefully no violent offenders shouldnt have guns. if he gets 1 dont let him saw the barrels down it seems to suggest he's not ever been convicted so he may get away with it. Edited September 25, 2012 by storme37 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiedenny Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 a previous post mentioned that if he accepted a cqution he would be refused a license, that is not correct. unfortunately i know of a local convicted for a horrible (but nin violent) crime who has a sgc. that said a caution for gbh is very different to a caution for a driving offence. let us know the outcome, i trust the polices decision and would be interested to know the outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 (edited) Very unlikely he'll get it. A friend of mine got caught giving someone a slap in town while drinking and couple days later his FEO was at his door warning him if he carries on he'll take his guns.Once and you might be able to explain mitigating circumstances,but not multiple. Edited September 25, 2012 by Imperfection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiedenny Posted September 25, 2012 Report Share Posted September 25, 2012 agree with the above, our friends hey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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