yates Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Is it me? I've been interviewing for staff to work as kitchen or domestic assistants. 30 hours per week,minimum wage to begin with and 6 weeks annual leave. I,ve had 3 people decline the position(although not offered yet), as,if they were to take employment with over 16 hours a week they will be out of pocket because their benfits will either cease or be reduced. One even worked out they will loose just under £400 of what ever benefit entitlement they recieve per month. Unbelievable, what ever happened to work ethic or pride. They may not be the best paid positions but will lead to bigger and better opportunities next year. Moan over.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil3728 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Unfortunatley, yes it is a sign of the times. With benefits so high there is really no motivation for some people to work. The days of pride in a job have not gone yet, but there are those who are only out for all they can get while doing nothing for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe99 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 To be fair, if the system was set so that being in work meant more money then I think a lot of these people would get a job. If someone said my job was suddenly going to cost me 400 quid a month I'd pack it in too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Yes it's all true and speaking from personal experience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedwards1966 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 There is something wrong with both the system and the attitude of many people. The system should not be designed in such a way that it can work out as good or better to remain on benefits instead of working, where is the incentive to work? You have to actually want to work to do so if you are not gaining anything from it, but unfortunately a large amount of people are too lazy and would rather not work. Bring on benefit cuts, make people work for their benefits so it is easier to get a job, and pay people with food, clothes and rent instead of money. Then if you want a new washing machine, hairdryer, laptop, phone and a TV you have a reason to go out and work for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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gemini52 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Like you said they are not the best paid positions,if the money paid was a realistic wage they would be filled no problem,we now live in a society were you are supposed to be gratefull to have a job that pays peanuts,and lets be honest the minimal wage is peanuts,thats why young peaple cant leave home and stand on there own feet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Like you said they are not the best paid positions,if the money paid was a realistic wage they would be filled no problem,we now live in a society were you are supposed to be gratefull to have a job that pays peanuts,and lets be honest the minimal wage is peanuts,thats why young peaple cant leave home and stand on there own feet. to be blunt what planet are you on? Of course you can you just have to live within your means Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil3728 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Best one I heard, a few years ago I wanted to drop the curb outside a house I was living in. Cost was going to be roughly £450. If I had been on benefits the council would have paid for it. As i worked and owned my own house I had to pay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemini52 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 to be blunt what planet are you on? Of course you can you just have to live within your means The same as you,there is a differance between living on the minimal wage and existing on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 my son interveiwed a young female for a job,all dolled up like a model,first question she asked was do i get payed when i,m off sick,she didn,t get the job and it wasn,t on minimum wage either.sign of the times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MM Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 And now the Tories want to do something about it, the country is up in arms about benefit cuts. Shocking scenes Jeff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 (edited) Yeah I find it strange people chose not to try and live on £185 a week, wonder why! KW Edited January 16, 2013 by kdubya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 There is something wrong with both the system and the attitude of many people. The system should not be designed in such a way that it can work out as good or better to remain on benefits instead of working, where is the incentive to work? You have to actually want to work to do so if you are not gaining anything from it, but unfortunately a large amount of people are too lazy and would rather not work. Bring on benefit cuts, make people work for their benefits so it is easier to get a job, and pay people with food, clothes and rent instead of money. Then if you want a new washing machine, hairdryer, laptop, phone and a TV you have a reason to go out and work for it. Agreed. It's called the poverty trap and one of the big ways that helped people out of it was the 10k limit on tax. Effectively, if you earned 10k or under you did not pay tax. Guess who scrapped it.. Yup Gormless Gordon. KW, is that a flat £185 a wekk or do bills like rent etc have to be paid out of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Like you said they are not the best paid positions,if the money paid was a realistic wage they would be filled no problem,we now live in a society were you are supposed to be gratefull to have a job that pays peanuts,and lets be honest the minimal wage is peanuts,thats why young peaple cant leave home and stand on there own feet. Exactly. Mine is a low paid industry but I would not dream of paying my staff the minimum wage, let alone expect them to live on it. If someone is worth employing their worth a wage they can live on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I heard the same thing when i left school in 1983, i just got on with getting on in life including a YTS but even when i married in 1993 ( aged 27 ) , it was only two salaries coming in that allowed us to buy a small house ( £77,000 was the price). I do not see what is different now. i did not know of anyone that could afford their own place until their mid to late 20s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 £6.21/hour is peanuts? It would be a big pay rise for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJ91 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 £6.21/hour is peanuts? It would be a big pay rise for me. I thought it was 6.19? If it was a fiver an hour I would still want to work I am 21 and struggle at times but i am alive and get out shooting abit I hate not been able to work, I don't do sick days Used 2days of my 4weeks holiday last year...saddo I know but I like been able to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 I thought it was 6.19? Ah yes. I was talking farm wage which is the only industry left that has a separate, higher minimum wage than the rest of the country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sitsinhedges Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 It's called exploitation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeds chimp Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Yeah I find it strange people chose not to try and live on £185 a week, wonder why! KW some have little choice.... myself and SWMBO would be better off if we did not work ....its childcare that screws us each month tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 It's called exploitation. What is? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
besty57 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Like you said they are not the best paid positions,if the money paid was a realistic wage they would be filled no problem,we now live in a society were you are supposed to be gratefull to have a job that pays peanuts,and lets be honest the minimal wage is peanuts,thats why young peaple cant leave home and stand on there own feet. totally agree ,well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeside1000 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 Heres a thought, work out a job share system, max 16 hours each , and only employ pensioners who are more reliable and could really use a little extra, rather than a living wage, if I lived near enough, I would apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gixer1 Posted January 16, 2013 Report Share Posted January 16, 2013 totally agree ,well said Why? You can buy a lot of horse for that kind of money :yp: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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