A bolt 22.250 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 (edited) What is the most accurate 17hmr that you can bye of the shelf! Topic title meant to say 17 hmr stupid auto spell!!! Edit: Title now sorted. Edited February 21, 2013 by steve_b_wales Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangon Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I had bought a brand new CZ silouhette, Thought it was like a toy. Just didnt like the feel of it at all, so traded it in for a second hand anschutz 1517 thumbhole. What a difference.! The Annie shoots better because it was broken in. Not that there was anything wrong with the accuracy on the CZ, I just didnt like it. So if i had the choice and money id buy the Anschutz. Its all down to relativity in that, can you shoot, choice of ammo, etc. 99% of rifles are more accurate than there owners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Cz varmint for me, 10p size groups @ 120 yards...and I'm not the best of shots.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ550Kevlar Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 452 style works well for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eccles Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Cz varmint for me, 10p size groups @ 120 yards...and I'm not the best of shots.. Ha Ha Rich don't give me that ( I'm not the best of shots bit) 10p size group is good shooting. ATB Terry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 cz everytime , dont matter what model there on the money all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Its really down to the shooter the ammo and his maintenance routine. By Cz 452 varmint would bug hole at 130yds by that I mean each hole intersecting (as long as there was truly no wind) and it would do that consistantly. That's stock std., no trigger jobs off a bipod and rear bag. Spend a few grand having a custom job built and it wont do no better unless you could tailor the ammo to it, which of course you cannot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimmyb79 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I know it's a subject of regular debate, but as a new owner of a .17hmr, I am interested in the maintenance routine and effect on accuracy. I had been getting 1 inch groups at 100yds with my Sako Quad by cleaning after every outing. I went out the other day and shot 100 rounds through it and the more I shot the better it got to the point I was clover-leafing by the end. I have now left it uncleaned and plan to shoot it like that for a bit and see how I get on. There is the obvious downside of potential corrosion etc but the difference in accuracy is quite noticeable... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walt1980 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I went for a new Anschutz 1517 non thumb hole but only cos my old mans a leftie n wanted to have the odd go as well. Well impressed with consistency, tight groups at 100 yds +. But it did need 40 or so shots to bed in, cleaned after every 5 or 6 to start with n after that not as important. Usually needs a few shots after cleaning to be spot on again, not sure why tho! But good excuse to go play again! :-) costs more than CZs but will hold value possibly a bit more due to less of them about?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alendil Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 one trick i learn recently is after cleaning gun if you oil barrel inside put one patch with alcohol before going out shooting it will be spot on with no leading needed etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluejay22 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I reckon on accuracy they all are there or there abouts, as previously mentioned some of them seem to be built for juveniles which is why i put a Richards stock on my 77/17. The trigger was way too heavy but a bit of TLC sorted that out thankfully and at £90 odd for an aftermarket Volquartsen unit i`m relieved it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest topshot_2k Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 All of them will be accurate, its the shooter that varies. Anshutz is quality rifle but I shoot just as well with my Savage Arms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A bolt 22.250 Posted February 21, 2013 Author Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Thanks for your replies some interesting thoughts I have been toying with buying an Annie just because they are very slick I had a Cz in 22 for years and it was superb never let me down they are a little rough around the edges tempting though as there are some great deals to be had with them! Out of interest do any of you get descent groups at 200yds with your rigs if so what are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Thanks for your replies some interesting thoughts I have been toying with buying an Annie just because they are very slick I had a Cz in 22 for years and it was superb never let me down they are a little rough around the edges tempting though as there are some great deals to be had with them! Out of interest do any of you get descent groups at 200yds with your rigs if so what are you using? I think 200 yards is a tad too far for a 17hmr to be accurate I remember about 4" groups and if its windy you've got no chance of a tight group..I try not to use mine past 100-120 yards max...but that's just my own opinion.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reggiegun Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think 200 yards is a tad too far for a 17hmr to be accurate I remember about 4" groups and if its windy you've got no chance of a tight group..I try not to use mine past 100-120 yards max...but that's just my own opinion.. Have you been to Catton rifle shoot. I fancy going, they have all sorts of targets for CF,RF and HMR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redgum Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Its really down to the shooter the ammo and his maintenance routine. By Cz 452 varmint would bug hole at 130yds by that I mean each hole intersecting (as long as there was truly no wind) and it would do that consistantly. That's stock std., no trigger jobs off a bipod and rear bag. Spend a few grand having a custom job built and it wont do no better unless you could tailor the ammo to it, which of course you cannot One of those things I would just have to see with my own eyes kent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Have you been to Catton rifle shoot. I fancy going, they have all sorts of targets for CF,RF and HMR Never been mate but if you fancy a trip out give us a shout.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I know it's a subject of regular debate, but as a new owner of a .17hmr, I am interested in the maintenance routine and effect on accuracy. I had been getting 1 inch groups at 100yds with my Sako Quad by cleaning after every outing. I went out the other day and shot 100 rounds through it and the more I shot the better it got to the point I was clover-leafing by the end. I have now left it uncleaned and plan to shoot it like that for a bit and see how I get on. There is the obvious downside of potential corrosion etc but the difference in accuracy is quite noticeable... That only because you didn't get everything out at your last clean, move anything around in the bore and it makes things worse and gives weight to the running back in theory. The only gun that needs running back in from a deep clean is a .22 IMO and experience, though I once subscribed to the other theory. You cannot replicate a state of dirty only a state of clean Thanks for your replies some interesting thoughts I have been toying with buying an Annie just because they are very slick I had a Cz in 22 for years and it was superb never let me down they are a little rough around the edges tempting though as there are some great deals to be had with them! Out of interest do any of you get descent groups at 200yds with your rigs if so what are you using? No too many variables even slight undetectable winds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpy22 Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 savage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Has anyone any experience of Mossberg in .17hmr ? Seems a good deal at £299 new ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 One of those things I would just have to see with my own eyes kent. its not exactly stunning but there are people on here who have seen it, any decent shooter can do this. Intersecting is not a screamer (one calibre size hole) its just each hole linked. I think a screamer would be sheer fluke and odds are its never been done with a hmr 5 shots not 3 BTW. At 100yds its only .3" - I just haven't got a clear 100 on the front range here it goes 75, 130, 200, 225, 320 then out to around 1500 or so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
telf Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 had a cz traded it in for an annie as i had an annie in .22 and the difference between the 2 guns was quite aparrant.Theres nothing wrong with czs but the annies ooze quality and for me just feel right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 Have you been to Catton rifle shoot. I fancy going, they have all sorts of targets for CF,RF and HMR only down the road for me but didn't realise hmr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I had a Mosberg before I got a silhouette. It was a light, accurate gun but had a problem with miss-feeding( the mag didn't lift the next round high enough). Did get that sorted but what really made me change was the bolt! Seemed flimsy and also quite difficult to insert . Got it jammed on a couple of occasions. Not a bad starter gun but not a keeper IMHO. GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pat g Posted February 21, 2013 Report Share Posted February 21, 2013 I think 200 yards is a tad too far for a 17hmr to be accurate I remember about 4" groups and if its windy you've got no chance of a tight group..I try not to use mine past 100-120 yards max...but that's just my own opinion.. A very sensible post and fully agree. The Hmr is not a 200 yard calibre IMO and never will be. I also find that i use mine at around 100 to 120 yards as well. 150 yards if its a very calm day which is not often any longer ranges and there are just too many variables to achieve consistent good groupings despite the claims you may read ATB, Pat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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