Dunkield Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 If you look at the other sports people who already have them, I think he should get one. I saw the program about him last night and it was interesting to see more of the real him and not just the tabloid version, and also his families closeness and involvement with the Dunblane community. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 No.... He plays tennis and gets vast amounts of money. Charity workers,nurses etc..not celebs/sportsmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mad68 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Maybe an MBE but not a knighthood, they seem to be the in thing for sportsmen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
philscreens Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 On 09/07/2013 at 07:09, bakerboy said: No way. This will be a campaign led by Red Top newspapers. Credit where it is due, he played well and has enjoyed a good couple of years, but a knighthood? If Andy Murray gets a knighthood for a couple of high profile wins, we should start a campaign for "forgotten Knighthood opportunities" Lets start with :- George Digweed 20 times world Champion Phil Taylor World darts Champion ? times 20 times world champion perhaps his face doesnt fit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett1985 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 no too fussed either way. he's worked bloody hard to get where he is, no one can deny that. and to the people who say "not after just one game" here is a snippet from wikipedia: So far in his career Murray has won a total of twenty-eight singles titles. This total includes two Grand Slam titles, nine Masters 1000 Series titles (placing him sixth on the all-time list), and a gold medal at the Olympics. He also has one exhibition title, two doubles titles with his brother Jamie Murray and an Olympic silver medal in the mixed doubles with Laura Robson hardly a one game wonder is he? and you can add to that list what he did 2 days ago.... but i do feel that there are other people that deserve the right to a knighthood if murray gets one, george digweed being the first and formost in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper3 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 To be honest..the knight hood means nothing in todays standards.... a true knight was a protector of the realm, he would have been a squire 1st ..these days its a gong for becoming famous.... it really means nothing.. somehow i can't picture sir mick of jagger, sir paul of mac'artney sir cliff of Richards, or even sir Elton of john throwing themselves in front of a bullet to save the queen... its a total farce... nothing more nothing less the real sad thing is.... the real unknown people, who do so much for NO personal gain get no real recognition..... i would sooner give a gong to a surgeon than some sports star or singer..... as said ...its a total farce and the knighthood means nothing these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 He's dammed if he does and dammed if he doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 On 09/07/2013 at 07:37, Gimlet said: Absolutely not. They give the things out like smarties now. In any case knighthoods shouln't be awarded for success. Success brings its own rewards - like an income of £15 million a year when you become a Wimbledon champion. Knighthoods should be awarded for a lifetime of service to others or outstanding contribution to a particular field. When he's spent 40 years promoting British tennis and helping youngsters into the sport, yes. For achieving the thing he's trained for, and is paid for, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 On 09/07/2013 at 08:52, Gimlet said: In fact multitudes of them get knighted for making an abysmal mess of doing their jobs. Most just don't rock the boat, tow the party line, and get their Knighthood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 I don't think he should get it yet, as others have said lets wait and see what he puts back into British tennis. Cris Hoy is more deserving because of the length of time he was at the top. On the other hand, Bradley Wiggins got it for a single Tour de France. ? Nial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greymaster Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 A knighthood bestows the accolade of being referred to as "Sir". Which is the same appellation which greets me when I get measured for a new suit. "Suits you Sir!", or what plod should say when addressing a male member of the public. The whole concept of regal honours is out of date. Fair enough, bestow a medal of national recognition, but let's not have the rest of us have to bow and scrape before our "superiors". Especially when they are given to the likes of Alan Sugar for making a fortune for himself and then becoming a celebrity... Australia has virtually abolished regal honours. Only state governors of the Governor General get to be knighted. Otherwise the rest of the populace gets the "Order of Australia". Give Murray an "Order of Great Britain" medal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunnerbob Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 On 09/07/2013 at 07:37, Gimlet said: Absolutely not. They give the things out like smarties now. In any case knighthoods shouln't be awarded for success. Success brings its own rewards - like an income of £15 million a year when you become a Wimbledon champion. Knighthoods should be awarded for a lifetime of service to others or outstanding contribution to a particular field. When he's spent 40 years promoting British tennis and helping youngsters into the sport, yes. For achieving the thing he's trained for, and is paid for, no. +1.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 On 09/07/2013 at 12:06, Greymaster said: A knighthood bestows the accolade of being referred to as "Sir". Which is the same appellation which greets me when I get measured for a new suit. "Suits you Sir!", or what plod should say when addressing a male member of the public. The whole concept of regal honours is out of date. Fair enough, bestow a medal of national recognition, but let's not have the rest of us have to bow and scrape before our "superiors". Especially when they are given to the likes of Alan Sugar for making a fortune for himself and then becoming a celebrity... Australia has virtually abolished regal honours. Only state governors of the Governor General get to be knighted. Otherwise the rest of the populace gets the "Order of Australia". Give Murray an "Order of Great Britain" medal. +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonno 357 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 Seems to be plenty of for and against murray I say yer why not and in a couple of years the knighthood will be so devalued and every sportsman will be a sire. It don't make them a better person. Just good at playing tennis or riding a bike He may get a knighthood but he will always be a scottish .....r Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaun4860 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 No..... No for Chris Hoy No for Bradley Wiggins Just my opinion, it's been so devalued they give them out to anyone....if your face fits or what you do is in vogue then you get one.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pimpkiller Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 NO - Nothing against the guy but he hits a ball with a silly bat, even if he does it for 40 years so what? can i have one for my contributions to naval lint picking? The other side of this i dont like is that alot of the top sports people have been supported by rich parents, quite a few British Olympians are in debt and have to give up sport because they had to put themselves through everything financially. Show me a guy who sets up a system where no matter how poor a background you come from if you are good at a sport you can be supported as a career for Britain, then give that guy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dunkield Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 On 09/07/2013 at 11:52, Nial said: On the other hand, Bradley Wiggins got it for a single Tour de France. Although he got it after the TdF, also not just a single TdF, the first English TdF winner - ever Gold medal in the Olympics Sports Personality of the year And that was just his 2012 Here are a few others Major results[edit] Source:[3] 1998 1st Individual pursuit, Junior Track World Championships 2nd Team pursuit, Commonwealth Games 2000 2nd Team pursuit, Track World Championships 2nd Six Days of Grenoble (with Rob Hayles) 3rd Team pursuit, Olympic Games 2001 2nd Team pursuit, Track World Championships 1st Overall Cinturón a Mallorca 1st Stages 1 (ITT) & 2 1st Overall Flèche du Sud 1st Stage 1 3rd Overall Tour of Rhodes 2002 Commonwealth Games 2nd Individual pursuit 2nd Team pursuit 2nd Six Days of Ghent (with Matthew Gilmore) 3rd Team pursuit, Track World Championships 2003 Track World Championships 1st Individual pursuit 2nd Team pursuit 1st Stage 1 (ITT) Tour de l'Avenir 1st Six Days of Ghent (with Matthew Gilmore) 2004 Olympic Games 1st Individual pursuit 2nd Team pursuit 3rd Madison (with Rob Hayles) 2005 1st Stage 2 (ITT) Circuit de Lorraine 1st Stage 8 Tour de l'Avenir 7th Time trial, Road World Championships 2007 Track World Championships 1st Individual pursuit 1st Team pursuit 1st Stage 1 (ITT) Four Days of Dunkirk 1st Prologue Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré 1st Stage 4 (ITT) Tour du Poitou-Charentes 1st Duo Normand (with Michiel Elijzen) Combativity award Stage 6 Tour de France 10th Time trial, Road World Championships 2008 Olympic Games 1st Individual pursuit 1st Team pursuit Track World Championships 1st Individual pursuit 1st Team pursuit 1st Madison (with Mark Cavendish) 2009 1st National Time Trial Championship 1st Overall Herald Sun Tour 1st Stage 5 (ITT) 1st Stage 1 (TTT) Tour of Qatar 1st Stage 3b (ITT) Three Days of De Panne 3rd Overall Tour de France 2010 1st National Time Trial Championship 1st Stage 1 (TTT) Tour of Qatar Giro d'Italia 1st Stage 1 (ITT) Held Pink Jersey for Stage 2 3rd Overall Vuelta a Murcia 2011 1st National Road Race Championship 1st Overall Critérium du Dauphiné 1st Stage 4 (ITT) Bayern-Rundfahrt 2nd Time trial, Road World Championships 3rd Overall Paris–Nice 3rd Overall Vuelta a España Held Red Jersey from Stages 11–15 2012 1st Overall Tour de France 1st Stages 9 (ITT) & 19 (ITT) 1st Overall Paris–Nice 1st Points classification 1st Stage 8 (ITT) 1st Overall Tour de Romandie 1st Stages 1 & 5 (ITT) 1st Overall Critérium du Dauphiné 1st Stage 4 (ITT) 1st Time trial, Olympic Games 3rd Overall Volta ao Algarve 1st Stage 5 (ITT) 2013 5th Overall Giro del Trentino 1st Stage 1b (TTT) 5th Overall Volta a Catalunya 1st Stage 2 (TTT) Giro d'Italia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 On 09/07/2013 at 07:01, neillfrbs said: yes or no your thoughts Are you trying to increase my Blood Pressure? £1.6m for hitting a ball over a net ..... clever I know but a Knighthood ? Cameron Milking the occasion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul65 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 On 09/07/2013 at 13:59, krugerandsmith said: Are you trying to increase my Blood Pressure? £1.6m for hitting a ball over a net ..... clever I know but a Knighthood ? Cameron Milking the occasion. Milking British successes is part of a government's job. Do you think Blair or any of them would do different? Holding up examples of success through single-minded effort and dedication in whatever field of endeavour is a way of encouraging youngsters to strive to succeed. Is that a bad thing? I think not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neillfrbs Posted July 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 i think every soldier serving this country deserves a knighthood more than Andy Murray . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 what is a knighthood worth now days, you will soon be able to get one if you spend over £50 at your local supermarket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 A knighthood should be awarded to those who have worked selflessly for the greater good of others-not those who hit a ball with a bat. Any soldier who comes under fire in the name humanity should be rewarded, instead they face redundancy and hardship. Where has it all gone so wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) On 09/07/2013 at 12:06, Greymaster said: A knighthood bestows the accolade of being referred to as "Sir". Which is the same appellation which greets me when I get measured for a new suit. "Suits you Sir!", or what plod should say when addressing a male member of the public. The whole concept of regal honours is out of date. Fair enough, bestow a medal of national recognition, but let's not have the rest of us have to bow and scrape before our "superiors". Especially when they are given to the likes of Alan Sugar for making a fortune for himself and then becoming a celebrity... Australia has virtually abolished regal honours. Only state governors of the Governor General get to be knighted. Otherwise the rest of the populace gets the "Order of Australia". Give Murray an "Order of Great Britain" medal. Conveniently overlooking the fact that we (like it or not) are a monarchistic country and not a republic. Nobody is my, or anyone elses superior so you may well have something of a point there......... As has been said elsewhere knighthoods are given to people who dont actually deserve them, they should definitely be given for services rendered and not for being famous. While AM has dedicated his life to tennis and given a lot of cash to charity these arent actually services rendered are they ? Not like some old guy who coaches kids week in, week out in ome godforesaken place for no reward other than satisfaction, IMO these are people who deserve public acknowledgement Edited July 9, 2013 by spanj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Livefast123 Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) No, no and no. Tennis is a job to Murray, yes he may well have worked damn hard and put in plenty of blood, sweat and tears but he has been well rewarded financially for all of his efforts just like somebody who was, say at the top of the banking industry or a company. He should enjoy the gratitude of the country and the nice shiny silverware. A knighthood should be for people who have served and benefitted the country during a lifetime. You could probably buy a knighthood these days from Elizabeth Duke hanging on a thick chain. Edited July 9, 2013 by Livefast123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 9, 2013 Report Share Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) On 09/07/2013 at 19:40, Livefast123 said: No, no and no. agreed, agreed and agreed. Edited July 9, 2013 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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