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If you look at the other sports people who already have them, I think he should get one.

I saw the program about him last night and it was interesting to see more of the real him and not just the tabloid version, and also his families closeness and involvement with the Dunblane community.

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  On 09/07/2013 at 07:09, bakerboy said:

No way.

 

This will be a campaign led by Red Top newspapers. Credit where it is due, he played well and has enjoyed a good couple of years, but a knighthood?

 

If Andy Murray gets a knighthood for a couple of high profile wins, we should start a campaign for "forgotten Knighthood opportunities"

Lets start with :-

 

George Digweed 20 times world Champion

Phil Taylor World darts Champion ? times

20 times world champion perhaps his face doesnt fit

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no too fussed either way.

 

he's worked bloody hard to get where he is, no one can deny that. and to the people who say "not after just one game" here is a snippet from wikipedia: So far in his career Murray has won a total of twenty-eight singles titles. This total includes two Grand Slam titles, nine Masters 1000 Series titles (placing him sixth on the all-time list), and a gold medal at the Olympics. He also has one exhibition title, two doubles titles with his brother Jamie Murray and an Olympic silver medal in the mixed doubles with Laura Robson

 

hardly a one game wonder is he? and you can add to that list what he did 2 days ago....

 

but i do feel that there are other people that deserve the right to a knighthood if murray gets one, george digweed being the first and formost in my mind.

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To be honest..the knight hood means nothing in todays standards....

 

a true knight was a protector of the realm, he would have been a squire 1st ..these days its a gong for becoming famous.... it really means nothing..

 

somehow i can't picture sir mick of jagger, sir paul of mac'artney sir cliff of Richards, or even sir Elton of john throwing themselves in front of a bullet to save the queen...

 

its a total farce... nothing more nothing less

 

the real sad thing is.... the real unknown people, who do so much for NO personal gain get no real recognition.....

 

i would sooner give a gong to a surgeon than some sports star or singer.....

 

as said ...its a total farce and the knighthood means nothing these days

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  On 09/07/2013 at 07:37, Gimlet said:

Absolutely not.

They give the things out like smarties now. In any case knighthoods shouln't be awarded for success. Success brings its own rewards - like an income of £15 million a year when you become a Wimbledon champion.

Knighthoods should be awarded for a lifetime of service to others or outstanding contribution to a particular field.

When he's spent 40 years promoting British tennis and helping youngsters into the sport, yes. For achieving the thing he's trained for, and is paid for, no.

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I don't think he should get it yet, as others have said lets wait and see what he puts back into British tennis.

 

Cris Hoy is more deserving because of the length of time he was at the top.

 

On the other hand, Bradley Wiggins got it for a single Tour de France.

 

?

 

Nial.

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A knighthood bestows the accolade of being referred to as "Sir". Which is the same appellation which greets me when I get measured for a new suit. "Suits you Sir!", or what plod should say when addressing a male member of the public.

 

The whole concept of regal honours is out of date.

 

Fair enough, bestow a medal of national recognition, but let's not have the rest of us have to bow and scrape before our "superiors". Especially when they are given to the likes of Alan Sugar for making a fortune for himself and then becoming a celebrity...

 

Australia has virtually abolished regal honours. Only state governors of the Governor General get to be knighted. Otherwise the rest of the populace gets the "Order of Australia".

 

Give Murray an "Order of Great Britain" medal.

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  On 09/07/2013 at 07:37, Gimlet said:

Absolutely not.

They give the things out like smarties now. In any case knighthoods shouln't be awarded for success. Success brings its own rewards - like an income of £15 million a year when you become a Wimbledon champion.

Knighthoods should be awarded for a lifetime of service to others or outstanding contribution to a particular field.

When he's spent 40 years promoting British tennis and helping youngsters into the sport, yes. For achieving the thing he's trained for, and is paid for, no.

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  On 09/07/2013 at 12:06, Greymaster said:

A knighthood bestows the accolade of being referred to as "Sir". Which is the same appellation which greets me when I get measured for a new suit. "Suits you Sir!", or what plod should say when addressing a male member of the public.

 

The whole concept of regal honours is out of date.

 

Fair enough, bestow a medal of national recognition, but let's not have the rest of us have to bow and scrape before our "superiors". Especially when they are given to the likes of Alan Sugar for making a fortune for himself and then becoming a celebrity...

 

Australia has virtually abolished regal honours. Only state governors of the Governor General get to be knighted. Otherwise the rest of the populace gets the "Order of Australia".

 

Give Murray an "Order of Great Britain" medal.

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Seems to be plenty of for and against murray

 

I say yer why not and in a couple of years the knighthood will be so devalued and every sportsman will be a sire. It don't make them a better person. Just good at playing tennis or riding a bike

 

He may get a knighthood but he will always be a scottish .....r :yes:

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NO - Nothing against the guy but he hits a ball with a silly bat, even if he does it for 40 years so what? can i have one for my contributions to naval lint picking? The other side of this i dont like is that alot of the top sports people have been supported by rich parents, quite a few British Olympians are in debt and have to give up sport because they had to put themselves through everything financially.

 

Show me a guy who sets up a system where no matter how poor a background you come from if you are good at a sport you can be supported as a career for Britain, then give that guy one.

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  On 09/07/2013 at 11:52, Nial said:

 

On the other hand, Bradley Wiggins got it for a single Tour de France.

 

 

Although he got it after the TdF, also not just a single TdF, the first English TdF winner - ever

Gold medal in the Olympics

Sports Personality of the year

And that was just his 2012

Here are a few others ;)

Major results[edit]

Source:[3]

 

1998

 

1st 20px-Jersey_rainbow.svg.png Individual pursuit, Junior Track World Championships

 

2nd 15px-Silver_medal_blank.svg.png Team pursuit, Commonwealth Games

 

2000

 

2nd 15px-Silver_medal_blank.svg.png Team pursuit, Track World Championships

 

2nd Six Days of Grenoble (with Rob Hayles)

 

3rd 15px-Bronze_medal.svg.png Team pursuit, Olympic Games

 

2001

 

2nd 15px-Silver_medal_blank.svg.png Team pursuit, Track World Championships

 

1st 20px-Jersey_yellow.svg.png Overall Cinturón a Mallorca

 

1st Stages 1 (ITT) & 2

 

 

1st 20px-Jersey_yellow.svg.png Overall Flèche du Sud

 

1st Stage 1

 

 

3rd Overall Tour of Rhodes

 

2002

 

Commonwealth Games

 

2nd 15px-Silver_medal_blank.svg.png Individual pursuit

 

2nd 15px-Silver_medal_blank.svg.png Team pursuit

 

 

2nd Six Days of Ghent (with Matthew Gilmore)

 

3rd 15px-Bronze_medal_blank.svg.png Team pursuit, Track World Championships

 

2003

 

Track World Championships

 

1st 20px-Jersey_rainbow.svg.png Individual pursuit

 

2nd 15px-Silver_medal_blank.svg.png Team pursuit

 

 

1st Stage 1 (ITT) Tour de l'Avenir

 

1st Six Days of Ghent (with Matthew Gilmore)

 

2004

 

Olympic Games

 

1st 15px-Gold_medal.svg.png Individual pursuit

 

2nd 15px-Silver_medal.svg.png Team pursuit

 

3rd 15px-Bronze_medal.svg.png Madison (with Rob Hayles)

 

 

2005

 

1st Stage 2 (ITT) Circuit de Lorraine

 

1st Stage 8 Tour de l'Avenir

 

7th Time trial, Road World Championships

 

2007

 

Track World Championships

 

1st 20px-Jersey_rainbow.svg.png Individual pursuit

 

1st 20px-Jersey_rainbow.svg.png Team pursuit

 

 

1st Stage 1 (ITT) Four Days of Dunkirk

 

1st Prologue Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré

 

1st Stage 4 (ITT) Tour du Poitou-Charentes

 

1st Duo Normand (with Michiel Elijzen)

 

20px-Jersey_red_number.svg.png Combativity award Stage 6 Tour de France

 

10th Time trial, Road World Championships

 

2008

 

Olympic Games

 

1st 15px-Gold_medal.svg.png Individual pursuit

 

1st 15px-Gold_medal.svg.png Team pursuit

 

 

Track World Championships

 

1st 20px-Jersey_rainbow.svg.png Individual pursuit

 

1st 20px-Jersey_rainbow.svg.png Team pursuit

 

1st 20px-Jersey_rainbow.svg.png Madison (with Mark Cavendish)

 

 

2009

 

1st 20px-MaillotReinoUnido.PNG National Time Trial Championship

 

1st 20px-Jersey_yellow.svg.png Overall Herald Sun Tour

 

1st Stage 5 (ITT)

 

 

1st Stage 1 (TTT) Tour of Qatar

 

1st Stage 3b (ITT) Three Days of De Panne

 

3rd Overall Tour de France

 

2010

 

1st 20px-MaillotReinoUnido.PNG National Time Trial Championship

 

1st Stage 1 (TTT) Tour of Qatar

 

Giro d'Italia

 

1st Stage 1 (ITT)

 

Held 20px-Jersey_pink.svg.png Pink Jersey for Stage 2

 

 

3rd Overall Vuelta a Murcia

 

2011

 

1st 20px-MaillotReinoUnido.PNG National Road Race Championship

 

1st 20px-Jersey_yellow-bluebar.svg.png Overall Critérium du Dauphiné

 

1st Stage 4 (ITT) Bayern-Rundfahrt

 

2nd 15px-Silver_medal_blank.svg.png Time trial, Road World Championships

 

3rd Overall Paris–Nice

 

3rd Overall Vuelta a España

 

Held 20px-Jersey_red.svg.png Red Jersey from Stages 11–15

 

 

2012

 

1st 20px-Jersey_yellow.svg.png Overall Tour de France

 

1st Stages 9 (ITT) & 19 (ITT)

 

 

1st 20px-Jersey_yellow.svg.png Overall Paris–Nice

 

1st 20px-Jersey_green.svg.png Points classification

 

1st Stage 8 (ITT)

 

 

1st 20px-Jersey_yellow.svg.png Overall Tour de Romandie

 

1st Stages 1 & 5 (ITT)

 

 

1st 20px-Jersey_yellow-bluebar.svg.png Overall Critérium du Dauphiné

 

1st Stage 4 (ITT)

 

 

1st 15px-Gold_medal.svg.png Time trial, Olympic Games

 

3rd Overall Volta ao Algarve

 

1st Stage 5 (ITT)

 

 

2013

 

5th Overall Giro del Trentino

 

1st Stage 1b (TTT)

 

 

5th Overall Volta a Catalunya

 

1st Stage 2 (TTT) Giro d'Italia

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  On 09/07/2013 at 13:59, krugerandsmith said:

Are you trying to increase my Blood Pressure? £1.6m for hitting a ball over a net ..... clever I know but a Knighthood ? Cameron Milking the occasion.

Milking British successes is part of a government's job. Do you think Blair or any of them would do different?

 

Holding up examples of success through single-minded effort and dedication in whatever field of endeavour is a way of encouraging youngsters to strive to succeed.

 

Is that a bad thing? I think not.

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A knighthood should be awarded to those who have worked selflessly for the greater good of others-not those who hit a ball with a bat. Any soldier who comes under fire in the name humanity should be rewarded, instead they face redundancy and hardship. Where has it all gone so wrong?

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  On 09/07/2013 at 12:06, Greymaster said:

A knighthood bestows the accolade of being referred to as "Sir". Which is the same appellation which greets me when I get measured for a new suit. "Suits you Sir!", or what plod should say when addressing a male member of the public.

 

The whole concept of regal honours is out of date.

 

Fair enough, bestow a medal of national recognition, but let's not have the rest of us have to bow and scrape before our "superiors". Especially when they are given to the likes of Alan Sugar for making a fortune for himself and then becoming a celebrity...

 

Australia has virtually abolished regal honours. Only state governors of the Governor General get to be knighted. Otherwise the rest of the populace gets the "Order of Australia".

 

Give Murray an "Order of Great Britain" medal.

Conveniently overlooking the fact that we (like it or not) are a monarchistic country and not a republic. Nobody is my, or anyone elses superior so you may well have something of a point there......... As has been said elsewhere knighthoods are given to people who dont actually deserve them, they should definitely be given for services rendered and not for being famous. While AM has dedicated his life to tennis and given a lot of cash to charity these arent actually services rendered are they ? Not like some old guy who coaches kids week in, week out in ome godforesaken place for no reward other than satisfaction, IMO these are people who deserve public acknowledgement

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No, no and no.

 

Tennis is a job to Murray, yes he may well have worked damn hard and put in plenty of blood, sweat and tears but he has been well rewarded financially for all of his efforts just like somebody who was, say at the top of the banking industry or a company.

 

He should enjoy the gratitude of the country and the nice shiny silverware. A knighthood should be for people who have served and benefitted the country during a lifetime.

 

You could probably buy a knighthood these days from Elizabeth Duke hanging on a thick chain.

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