BaikalsRule90 Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I am really struggling to hit long crossers. I just can't read them or hit them consistently. On one stand I will be in front, the next behind, and then just way off line. It's getting to the point where my confidence is being knocked for other stands I would usually do well on. How do the majority of clay shooters shoot them? Maintain? Pull away? Also if the crosser is also rising should the gun be at a 90 degree angle to it or remain straight/Kanting the gun. Do you think it's worth having a lesson?? Thanks in advance. Steve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 the best way to practice on long crossing targets is to set up a trap and shoot the clay at 20 or 25 yards when you can hit that every time move back 5 yards and try again.then another 5 yards you will soon learn the lead needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Essex Hunter Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 I am sure Terry will be along with a method to solve your dilemma..... TEH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 the best way to practice on long crossing targets is to set up a trap and shoot the clay at 20 or 25 yards when you can hit that every time move back 5 yards and try again.then another 5 yards you will soon learn the lead needed +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted November 17, 2013 Report Share Posted November 17, 2013 (edited) Half or three quarters choke, 7's, I would always shoot them maintained lead, don't cant the barrels.It's difficult to advice without really knowing how far out it is, or if your shooting it while it's still under power.If it is slowing go slightly under. Is someone telling you wether your in front or behind , unless they are right on your shoulder ignore them and keep your barrels moving. from Auntie. Edited November 17, 2013 by 100milesaway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ropemunky Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 the best way to practice on long crossing targets is to set up a trap and shoot the clay at 20 or 25 yards when you can hit that every time move back 5 yards and try again.then another 5 yards you will soon learn the lead needed This was exactly how I was taught to do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAMMER BURT Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 (edited) take a slab of carts to a clay ground/ club and shoot nothing but that target until you can hit it 9 out of 10 times you will soon get the hang of it Edited November 18, 2013 by RAMMER BURT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dashman1 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Sound advice burt I agree with that atb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cawdor118 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I am really struggling to hit long crossers. I just can't read them or hit them consistently. On one stand I will be in front, the next behind, and then just way off line. It's getting to the point where my confidence is being knocked for other stands I would usually do well on. How do the majority of clay shooters shoot them? Maintain? Pull away? Also if the crosser is also rising should the gun be at a 90 degree angle to it or remain straight/Kanting the gun. Do you think it's worth having a lesson?? Thanks in advance. Steve. Have a look on YouTube mate, and don't let it get to you! Even Digweed missus... Sometimes! So don't be disheartened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iggy Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 If its a long, slow crosser I always use pull away. I lock onto the bird first allowing me to get the line and speed matched to the target then start pulling away until it feels right before pulling the trigger. For closer crossers or crossers where you don't have much time I use maintained as I don't have enough time to lock on and pull away before the clay either disappears or hits the deck etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaikalsRule90 Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Cheers for all use advice people. Shooting Wednesday afternoon at lower lake shooting ground in Cornwall. Hopefully there will be something high and long to practice on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Funny Thing about Crossers, I always aim high on them to compensate maybe for Shoulder drop (Left To Right). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Start as said at 20 25 yards and keep working back. Pull ahead will work best for most people as it give you line and speed. As you get more confident mount into half the lead then pull ahead takes a little more practise but is a faster system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12boreblue Posted December 4, 2013 Report Share Posted December 4, 2013 Gauging how far out and it's speed is the key to this one... At 40 yds I might give a farm gate in lead for a fast crosser, slightly less if it is slower. But my lead would be different to another shooter. One tip.. there is a point of distance, where the maximum visual lead is needed, then the further the bird is from you the less lead is needed, as an example at 40 yds I give a farm gate's length 8ft, at 50yds the target is further out and the length of the farm gate looks smaller although it is still 8ft. So the lead get smaller, I have often seen those really long clays missed as too much lead is given. Just keep practising. Although at one shoot I could not hit a loopiing crosser about 50/60 yds out, ended up giving it 2 yes 2 farm gates to hit it. that's 16ft!!!! That is the longest lead I have ever given to hit a bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Gauging how far out and it's speed is the key to this one... At 40 yds I might give a farm gate in lead for a fast crosser, slightly less if it is slower. But my lead would be different to another shooter. One tip.. there is a point of distance, where the maximum visual lead is needed, then the further the bird is from you the less lead is needed, as an example at 40 yds I give a farm gate's length 8ft, at 50yds the target is further out and the length of the farm gate looks smaller although it is still 8ft. So the lead get smaller, I have often seen those really long clays missed as too much lead is given. Just keep practising. Although at one shoot I could not hit a loopiing crosser about 50/60 yds out, ended up giving it 2 yes 2 farm gates to hit it. that's 16ft!!!! That is the longest lead I have ever given to hit a bird. I can only echo this that each shooter see lead differently a friend and great shoot (GB) give an 85 yes looping crosser we shot a 57 seat coaches length of lead that's huge I found for me it was 2 farm gates or a transit van. Best way watch over the shoulder with out intervening to see roughly their lead with your eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jega Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 Skeet is really good practice for sorting out ,angles,amount of lead etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shropshire_Lad Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 The very target that brings my score crashing down ! I just can't read them at all and if it drops as well I am truly beat . Time for some help in the new year . atvb Paul. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastair0903 Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 It just shows people's perception of things as a farm gate is 12 ft to me I was thinking 24 ft was a hell of a lot of lead to give ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12boreblue Posted December 5, 2013 Report Share Posted December 5, 2013 We only have little farms here, so little gates! although I stand corrected all the gates now are 12' but in my youth the gates were metal and only 8' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted December 7, 2013 Report Share Posted December 7, 2013 all my gates are 14 foot doubles otherwise the combine would never get through.suppose that's why I miss so many Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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