shaun4860 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I really don't know where I stand on this, It should be their only job, Not sitting on this board or that board for 2-3 days per month and getting a very handsome cheque at the end of it, I too don't see why we need so many of them, 600 and odd isn't it? So why not 1 for every county? Or 2 at the most The USA has 1 senator for every state, so why don't we match that, If we paid them, say £100k per year and NO expenses save for essentials, (small office in their constituency) There must be plenty of tower blocks in London that could accommodate every MP, They only need a small flat, 1 bedroom and a lounge and bathroom, If they lose their seat then whoever wins it, gets their flat, all paid for by government. Gets rid of all this second home mullarky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Yes ...... Buy cheap buy twice, Gordon blownit Brown for instance In fact increase it two fold and four fold for cabinet members And let's part fund that by having a mp and elected lords chop, and a reshuffle of constituency boundaries so that they fall impartial Don't forget expenses are, or should be, exactly that, they do not constitute part of a wage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I agree. We should want the best to represent us , a reduction in expenses for an increase in basic is fair enough really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I agree with this too. There may well be an argument for paying reasonable wages for what is an important job, but doing it now will just be insulting to every other public sector worker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 No way, factor in expenses etc they probably be on over £100k anyway Not forgetting most of them also have wives or family members being their paid Secretaries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I really don't know where I stand on this, It should be their only job, Not sitting on this board or that board for 2-3 days per month and getting a very handsome cheque at the end of it, I too don't see why we need so many of them, 600 and odd isn't it? So why not 1 for every county? Or 2 at the most The USA has 1 senator for every state, so why don't we match that, If we paid them, say £100k per year and NO expenses save for essentials, (small office in their constituency) There must be plenty of tower blocks in London that could accommodate every MP, They only need a small flat, 1 bedroom and a lounge and bathroom, If they lose their seat then whoever wins it, gets their flat, all paid for by government. Gets rid of all this second home mullarky This is exactly what I have thought for many years one thing that dose annoy me is people slagging them off all of the time I think most of them do a good job and work long hours there are plenty of bad doctors teachers even post men/women but at least with MPs we get the chance to sack them every four or five years the others just carry on until they retire. Not forgetting most of them also have wives or family members being their paid Secretaries. That has been band you are out of date my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikk Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 FWD have you forgotten the expenses scandal? Nearly every single one of them was on teh take and only a handful got what they deserved. They can't complain that people don't trust them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nial Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 "Not forgetting most of them also have wives or family members being their paid Secretaries.". That has been band you are out of date my friend. If you mean 'banned', no it hasn't my MP employs his wife in the office. Nial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
point and shoot Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 For a job with no formal training or qualifications they're not on a bad income as I see it. Definitely no 11% pay rise! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 For a job with no formal training or qualifications they're not on a bad income as I see it. Definitely no 11% pay rise! so your happy to have unqualified folk in powerPay peanuts get monkeys......... Tony bla***d Blair for instance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 FWD have you forgotten the expenses scandal? Nearly every single one of them was on teh take and only a handful got what they deserved. They can't complain that people don't trust them. It was regarded for most of them as a perk of the job after all they did forgo any pay rises for a long time I bet there are not many people who given the chance by there employer to have a free TV or some other thing in fact only a very few of them did the house swapping thing etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laird Lugton Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Pay them what the independent body advises. Their salary now does not adequately compensate them for their role. As much as I hate to agree with Flashman if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. I don't want the current crop of monkeys in charge of spending billions, the job is to important to have muppets in it. Edited December 10, 2013 by Laird Lugton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 If you mean 'banned', no it hasn't my MP employs his wife in the office. Nial. I stand to be corrected on this but they did say that employing members of there family was stopped but that does not mean that she could be working for nothing not everyone is greedy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 For a job with no formal training or qualifications they're not on a bad income as I see it. Definitely no 11% pay rise! If its so simple and so well paid you are slipping up there you could/should apply to become one if they would have you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nikk Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'm more concerned about how managers in councils are earning more than MPs to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Make it 2% in line with inflation no problem. 11% is out of order when the rest of the country is tightening its belt, with pay cuts, or hours cut or just no rises for several years. Then make all future risers dependent on performance, produce the goods and get the rewards. Failing MPs should be held to account earlier than the 4 or 5 years they have been elected for. Too much damage been done in the past by incompetent people in the wrong job for to long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'm more concerned about how managers in councils are earning more than MPs to be honest. That is a far better point - average C Exec salary must be £160K with some on £200K + Heads of service on £80-90K Directors on £140K. All slightly out of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegasus bridge Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 That is a far better point - average C Exec salary must be £160K with some on £200K + Heads of service on £80-90K Directors on £140K. All slightly out of control. That really puts it in perspective for me! Council execs won't come under the same level of scrutiny as an mp either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 That is a far better point - average C Exec salary must be £160K with some on £200K + Heads of service on £80-90K Directors on £140K. All slightly out of control. The answer always seems to be that it is expected and that the pay is supposed to get the "right" people for the job! Personally I cannot understand how anyone in that sort of job can expect to be paid more the the Prime Minister of the land who is ultimately responsible for more people and money! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lampwick Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) The answer always seems to be that it is expected and that the pay is supposed to get the "right" people for the job! Personally I cannot understand how anyone in that sort of job can expect to be paid more the the Prime Minister of the land who is ultimately responsible for more people and money! There are many people on more money than the Prime Minister! Check out the salaries of Charity CEOs for example! Your forgetting they all volunteer for it at the salary given at the election! Once again the rules of Supply and demand should apply! In these times when many haven't had increases for years and in fact many have had reductions or been made redundant they should feel ashamed! I thought we had run out of money and we all needed to chip in for the Nation? Every bit counts doesn't it? I've seen libraries close, youth clubs close, old peoples homes close! We're seeing patients waiting in ambulances for hours outside A&E and yet 11% is ok! ITS WRONG! Foot note, if I've read the accounts correctly the CEO of The Countryside Alliance cost £113,995 in 2010! How much is The BASC Chairman costing? The last advert didn't indicate! Now I'm not saying they are not worth it but if you really want to think about it you need to think about what a nurse is worth? A paramedic? Don't the RNLI volunteer? I could go on! Edited December 10, 2013 by Lampwick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 It's a disgrace. We're all in this together? Don't make me laugh. It all feels just a little like George Orwell's Animal Farm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Well, when your average secondary school head is well over £100K it makes you realise a lot of people are creaming it. How many secondary schools in your county/town? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardinal Posted December 10, 2013 Report Share Posted December 10, 2013 Hell no, They have enforced a no pay increase for public sector workers for 3 years now added to insane cuts in spending, all so they can get an 11% increase? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted December 11, 2013 Report Share Posted December 11, 2013 I really don't know where I stand on this, It should be their only job, Not sitting on this board or that board for 2-3 days per month and getting a very handsome cheque at the end of it, I too don't see why we need so many of them, 600 and odd isn't it? So why not 1 for every county? Or 2 at the most The USA has 1 senator for every state, so why don't we match that, If we paid them, say £100k per year and NO expenses save for essentials, (small office in their constituency) There must be plenty of tower blocks in London that could accommodate every MP, They only need a small flat, 1 bedroom and a lounge and bathroom, If they lose their seat then whoever wins it, gets their flat, all paid for by government. Gets rid of all this second home mullarky That's the best idea I've heard. In answer to the OP, no, to a rise, lots of private the private sector have not had a rise so why should our MPs. Let's just enforce the current policy rigidly as we at my workplace. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overandunder2012 Posted December 12, 2013 Report Share Posted December 12, 2013 employers have been using the economy as an excuse not to give pay rises to employees for a few years now so it looks bad when these people get a nice bung Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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