Stu74 Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 What bullets do people use? I have been using Remington subsonics but I am finding that I am getting misfires and no 2 shots sound the same. Has anyone else had this problem? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 I like Winchester subs. You need to try a few, different guns seem to prefer different rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu74 Posted January 12, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 We used winchesters in my mates gun and used to have a good kill rate but these Remington's I used 90 bullets last night to 8 kills absolutely shocking mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin lad Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 never got on with Remington's always had problems with them 1 in 5 went supersonic plus some duff ones too colin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 My CZ seems to love anything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fruity Posted January 12, 2014 Report Share Posted January 12, 2014 Mine seams to favour eley subs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kennett Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Agree with the remingtons, had a few go off with a crack, with blackened cases and shocking accuracy. Like winchesters, never seem to have a problem and eleys also seem to hit hard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I don't understand the Remingtons, years back I used their target ammo all the time, good stuff. A year or two back I got a box of 100Rem subs to give them a try as they were cheap, and they were awful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 SK's at the moment, I find them consistent and accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 Remington subs are the worst IMO. I returned a brick of Winchesters not long back, failure to eject 1 in 5, never had this issue before and shot a load of a friends Winnies the week before through it. Swapped back for a brick of SK as normal, you cannot fault these and I have yet to find a gun that didn't shoot them. In a good .22 well handled you need to get out further than 75 yds to really see much difference in accuracy and out past 100 yds its very evident which are best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxbuster Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 never got on with Remington's always had problems with them 1 in 5 went supersonic plus some duff ones too colin +1, use eley subs now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I've been getting on well with RWS hollow points. This review is quite informative: http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/guns/195871/Subsonic_22LR_ammunition_review.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 I've been getting on well with RWS hollow points. This review is quite informative: http://www.shootingtimes.co.uk/guns/195871/Subsonic_22LR_ammunition_review.html These are very good, trajectory is 2" lower than any other sub I have tried at 100 yds but groups still nice and tight from the CZ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1066 Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 These are very good, trajectory is 2" lower than any other sub I have tried at 100 yds but groups still nice and tight from the CZI've recently switched After many years of using Eley HP subs I have recently switched to the RWS subs. I have found that the quality of the Eleys has been quite variable over the last couple of years and often a marked difference in velocity from batch to batch. When choosing .22 ammo you need to make a judgment based on : Accuracy, reliability, consistency, availability, cost etc. It's no good choosing a really accurate round if one in five shots jams in the semi auto, likewise the box of superb ammunition you picked up when on holiday that no one stocks for 200 miles. Try all the brands that are available, within your budget range and will do the job. This little test I tried here is with six different types of ammo, fairly windy so no "one hole" groups but real world conditions. - The Eley Tenex was the tightest group but is a solid point and twice the price of Eley subs. Every one of the shots would have hit a golfball at 65 yds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqRw_xDtrFc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted January 13, 2014 Report Share Posted January 13, 2014 (edited) These are very good, trajectory is 2" lower than any other sub I have tried at 100 yds but groups still nice and tight from the CZ I used to be a staunch Eley sub fan but RWS HP are a bit better on the target it's marginal but I shot 50 of each on a still day and they are more accurate through my Anschütz. They are also the quietest sub i've shot. Great on bunny and squirrel, no over penetration. Top round. The other plus point is that I need next to nothing right/left adjustment using RWS High Velocity HP using my gun. I don't shoot much of this stuff but it's handy now and again. Never shot a more accurate HV .22LR round.Go try it! Edited January 13, 2014 by Whitebridges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Since the price of Magtech .22lr HP subs has gone mad I switched to Winchester. I tried the RWS, they work well for me and I'm happy with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 After many years of using Eley HP subs I have recently switched to the RWS subs. I have found that the quality of the Eleys has been quite variable over the last couple of years and often a marked difference in velocity from batch to batch. When choosing .22 ammo you need to make a judgment based on : Accuracy, reliability, consistency, availability, cost etc. It's no good choosing a really accurate round if one in five shots jams in the semi auto, likewise the box of superb ammunition you picked up when on holiday that no one stocks for 200 miles. Try all the brands that are available, within your budget range and will do the job. This little test I tried here is with six different types of ammo, fairly windy so no "one hole" groups but real world conditions. - The Eley Tenex was the tightest group but is a solid point and twice the price of Eley subs. Every one of the shots would have hit a golfball at 65 yds. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JqRw_xDtrFc My post has been altered in your post I HAVE NOT SWITCHED TO RWS I remain SK but they are good, just I wont loose 2" of 100 yds trajectory for something that shoots equal to SK. Could you pls edit it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I used to be a staunch Eley sub fan but RWS HP are a bit better on the target it's marginal but I shot 50 of each on a still day and they are more accurate through my Anschütz. They are also the quietest sub i've shot. Great on bunny and squirrel, no over penetration. Top round. The other plus point is that I need next to nothing right/left adjustment using RWS High Velocity HP using my gun. I don't shoot much of this stuff but it's handy now and again. Never shot a more accurate HV .22LR round.Go try it! My statement was altered in this quote as just posted! I use SK, not a fan of HV personally they just make more noise and drift further in the wind all for a flatter trajectory that I don't need. No HV can match the accuracy of a sub due to the transonic destabilisation that occurs and the use of a lighter lower BC bullet in general Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Agree 100% Kent. I shot quite a few of these just to get used to them and to understand the differences compared with the sub. Compared to other manufacturers HV .22LR rounds these are the boys. They are not in the same league as my .17HMR but I don't often carry both guns. Just occasionally I find a need for a bit more oommff and to hell with the increased noise.As an example I shot a stoat stone dead at 142 paces with an RWS HV round that I definitely wouldn't have shot with a subsonic pill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truflex Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 I prefer Eley when I can get them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 RWS or Eley seem the best-just open a box and look at the quality compared to others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 RWS or Eley seem the best-just open a box and look at the quality compared to others. That's it. I used to get Eley from a local dealer and these were 5-7 years old. The quality was top draw. Now the source has dried up and for me RWS is the way ahead. German innit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rimfireboy Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 That's it. I used to get Eley from a local dealer and these were 5-7 years old. The quality was top draw. Now the source has dried up and for me RWS is the way ahead. German innit! Try SK's, top quality and more oomph than eley and rws. The last eleys I had were only just over 900 fps, accurate and consistent but more drop than I liked. RWS were slightly faster but not quite as accurate for me, now I've tried SK's I don't think there's any going back, while I can get them anyway. The ones I've had have been as fast as a subsonic can be but I haven't had a single cracker, they're so consistent, and I reckon they're probably the best subsonic hollowpoints available. Just my opinion, but I don't think anybody would be disappointed with them. I haven't heard of any poor reports about them from anyone else who's tried them either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Try SK's, top quality and more oomph than eley and rws. The last eleys I had were only just over 900 fps, accurate and consistent but more drop than I liked. RWS were slightly faster but not quite as accurate for me, now I've tried SK's I don't think there's any going back, while I can get them anyway. The ones I've had have been as fast as a subsonic can be but I haven't had a single cracker, they're so consistent, and I reckon they're probably the best subsonic hollowpoints available. Just my opinion, but I don't think anybody would be disappointed with them. I haven't heard of any poor reports about them from anyone else who's tried them either. 320m/s at 2.5m and an SD of <2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 16, 2014 Report Share Posted January 16, 2014 Agree 100% Kent. I shot quite a few of these just to get used to them and to understand the differences compared with the sub. Compared to other manufacturers HV .22LR rounds these are the boys. They are not in the same league as my .17HMR but I don't often carry both guns. Just occasionally I find a need for a bit more oommff and to hell with the increased noise.As an example I shot a stoat stone dead at 142 paces with an RWS HV round that I definitely wouldn't have shot with a subsonic pill. heck any shot on a stoat with a rifle has a lot to do with luck anyhow, I doubt I have shot more than three in my life. Done with HV no interest to me personally at 142 yds they will have dropped a long ways anyhow and as the transonic zone is due to speed dropping from supersonic to subsonic then they are never going to outperform a good sub. I agree though RWS make some good rimfire ammo for sure. I am sure someone, someplace has a real good use for HV its just I dont Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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