955i Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 (edited) Hi all, sent off my renewal early December and had a call from them saying it was delayed as they had no record of my shotgun. I brought the gun in Jan 2012 from a chap whose brother had died and so he was disposing of his guns, and emailed the firearms dept as usual to let them know. Explained this to the person on the phone and they said that the person that was dealing with these things at that time had now left and there was no sign of my email. Last night I got a call from my next door neighbour who had the FEO with him. He had also purchased one of this guys guns at the same time and again, the firearms dept had no record of it. Just a heads up to anyone who may have purchased a gun around 2 years ago and emailed Derbyshire to let them know it may be worth a call to make sure it is on your ticket. Edited January 15, 2014 by 955i Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HW682 Posted January 15, 2014 Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Thanks for the heads up What I have done when I have emailed Derbyshire is ask them to reply and confirm receipt of the email. Then print that off and stick it in the top box of the cabinet. If there are any questions at least I have some kind of paper trail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
955i Posted January 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 15, 2014 Thanks for the heads up What I have done when I have emailed Derbyshire is ask them to reply and confirm receipt of the email. Then print that off and stick it in the top box of the cabinet. If there are any questions at least I have some kind of paper trail. I did, but it was 2 years ago. Have an annual clear out due to limited storage and it got gone.# Won't make the same mistake again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clakk Posted January 17, 2014 Report Share Posted January 17, 2014 not just 2 years ago my first rizzini 15 years ago ,went to sell it to garlands and they got in touch to tell me derbyshire had no record of me buying it and it was still registered to the shop i bought it from .work that out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOLDCREST Posted January 22, 2014 Report Share Posted January 22, 2014 (edited) I asked West Yorkshire police to send me a receipt of E-Mail but never got a reply....So sent a hard copy by recorded post just to be on the safe side.. Apart from that they were excellent to deal with. Edited January 22, 2014 by GOLDCREST Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ianholmes Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I had west yorks asking me to check serial number as there is 2 guns on national database with same no ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel100 Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Ianholmes, I've heard of this happening before - they don't seem to understand that you could have a Miroku s/n 12345678 AND a Beretta s/n 12345678. It shouldn't be an issue but it depends on staff training, I think ... Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian E Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 I've always been told to send a letter via recorded delivery, at least that way you can check that it's arrived and also give them a quick call to check they have entered the details on there computers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted February 10, 2014 Report Share Posted February 10, 2014 ive had the same issue with derbyshire multiple times now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam's Dad Posted April 8, 2014 Report Share Posted April 8, 2014 Move to Northants - they use an online form and you get an automated reply - Simples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted June 9, 2014 Report Share Posted June 9, 2014 (edited) Not just an issue at your end of the country, about ten years ago when the FEO from the ‘Met’ came for my inspection at certificate renewal time he advised me that I should be in possession of a firearm that I had sold four years before! My heart sank, however knowing that I never throw any of my official paperwork dealings with the police away I was able to retrieve both the recorded delivery slip and a copy of the actual letter that I had sent them. Therefore from experience I would say do all of your firearms dealing, ‘Hard Copy, Recorded’ even if your initial response is electronic and do keep all documentation for your heirs to dispose of! Edited June 9, 2014 by STOTTO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted June 24, 2014 Report Share Posted June 24, 2014 I bought a barrel set for my 687, it was recorded on my ticket as a barrel set but the FEO advised their records said it was a whole gun. This was one renewal after I bought it so the barrels were printed onto my ticket by the FLO. Just goes to show that everyone makes mistakes. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveyTed Posted June 26, 2014 Report Share Posted June 26, 2014 I had a similar experience in Essex. Took the remains of an old .410 into local police station for disposal. Counter assistant took the gun and printed off a form for me to sign giving up ownership. I showed my certificate to prove I was entitled to have the gun and was politely told " Certificates are nothing to do with me". I asked for a receipt with the gun's serial number and was refused but was given a compliment slip with a lost property receipt number on it. On getting home I phoned Firearms licensing and was asked to email details of the event which I did. Several months later I received a phone call saying a shotgun registered to me was handed in a police station and why hadn't I notified them of the loss. Luckily I still had the compliments slip and email copy. "Sorry, our mistake" was the reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecash Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Keep a paper record of each and every dealing that you have with plod and confirm any verbals in writing, not just for firearms and shotgun licences, everything. You never know when you may need it. You can be the most law abiding of citizens, but plod is always "mislaying" things which if you keep records are easily resolved, but can take a long long time to clear up and possibly involve a load of grief if there are "no records". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39TDS Posted October 30, 2014 Report Share Posted October 30, 2014 Move to Northants - they use an online form and you get an automated reply - Simples! You would think any county could manage this wouldn't you. It isn't exactly rocket science is it. A 10 year old kid could manage it these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RossEM Posted February 20, 2015 Report Share Posted February 20, 2015 A few years back I was instructed by my local FEO to take temporary receipt of my old boss' guns as he had lost the paper copy of his licence (despite me not being an RFD!) - this I did, and the FEO came over to inspect the guns. All was ok, and he asked if I could just inform him when I'd returned the guns. This I did 3 days later by calling the FEO personally. A year later I was contacted by a new FEO to say my boss had renewed his licence and there was "some confusion as to where the guns are being stored" (my licence had also been renewed a few months before, with no mention of my boss' guns) and did I still have them? The guns were "on their records" as still being stored at my house. All very odd, probably shouldn't have been instructed to take the guns as I'm not an RFD, but there you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted July 3, 2015 Report Share Posted July 3, 2015 Years ago following a friends innocent run in with the local law they kept his shotgun, with one barrel fired, following representation by B.A.S.C. said gun was returned with both barrels fired.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gin steady shooter Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 Old Lothian borders force, when I applied for my initial grant of sgc, they only granted me 3 years in my ticket. Should have been five. Luckily I noticed before it expired and got them to sort it. But he attitude when I explained to them; had I not nice I would have innocently been in losses of and unlicensed weapon; they told me to stop getting angry ( I was perfectly calm, but not impressed by this admin error). Pays to double check, as others have said before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted January 23, 2016 Report Share Posted January 23, 2016 I found they invented a name on an unmarked moderator...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hushpower Posted October 16, 2016 Report Share Posted October 16, 2016 Sent my New SGC back to Derbyshire Firearms has a new gun I had bought wasn't on the ticket and I needed a auto safety putting on., gunsmiths wont entertain it if not on a ticket.Sent it back last Monday and received it back last Friday, hows that for service.Well done Derbyshire Firearms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P1andy Posted October 18, 2016 Report Share Posted October 18, 2016 Got to say had top class service from Derbyshire firearms team couldn't have been more helpful over the phone and Lee who came out to check everything was also very helpful, from application going in to receiving it took 6 weeks, pretty good going in my book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 Renewed my FAC/SGC this week with Leicestershire. On checking records with West Yorkshire their records had not been updated since 2003, in addition Derbyshire still had a piece of land authorised for only 22 centre fire, when it had been upgraded two years ago. As I have said a number of times the Leicestershire team will go out of their way to see your turn around is as quickly as possible and although the hiccups with the two forces above and a sudden loss of an enquiry officer through illness, I still got my renewal 10days early. I have just read the article in the BASC magazine about the NEW proposals and they actually amount to very little. The Rt Hon Brandon Lewis is still convinced that the license system prevents criminals getting guns .... failed recently didn't. The country is awash with illegal guns in the hands of criminals and having law abiding shooters to re apply every five years is nothing short of a waste of public money. The whole system could be streamlined and run on a similar basis to licensing your car/s. One clearly brilliant step would be the issue of a plastic card for us to carry, instead of reams of very expensive paper. BUT, don't hold your breath. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daveboy Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 West yorkshire now have an online form for Guns sold/bought and change of address. You get an Email back instantly with all the details you have submitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
berthaboo Posted January 6, 2017 Report Share Posted January 6, 2017 (edited) Hi Have lived in the Notts and Derby all my life and never had any issues with either of them. But Derby are lot better than Notts police and that pains me saying that being a Notts lad lol Edited January 6, 2017 by berthaboo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SPARKIE Posted January 24, 2017 Report Share Posted January 24, 2017 Well all mines just gone in for renewal so let's see what happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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