ride4fun Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 What one of the above would you go for and why? What distances do both start to drop at and what distances would it be practical to shoot out to? Thank you antony Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Throw .204 in there too !!!! Awesome round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangon Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Have a look here http://gundata.org/ballistic-calculator/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet boy Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I had a choice of the 2 and chose the .22-250. Both .223 and .22-250 are excellent Fox calibres. ATB in whatever you choose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deershooter Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Unless you are shooting at extreme range the .223 will will do the same job up to 250/300 yards and uses 1/2 the powder Deershooter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dead-Eyed Duck Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Unless you are shooting at extreme range the .223 will will do the same job up to 250/300 yards and uses 1/2 the powder Deershooter I agree entirely. Had a 223 first, then a 22-250 and back to a 223. If you have large fields to shoot over then a 22-250 may be the best for you, but up to 250 yards or so no fox will notice anything different. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ride4fun Posted January 28, 2014 Author Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Thanks for the replys, the fields i shoot arnt Massive so the .223 is definatly on the cards, am i right in saying they are a lot cheeper in amunition and a lot easyer to quieten down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
washerboy Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Wonder why south Yorkshire will give you 22.250 but not 223? Heard this from three fac holders that I shoot with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bornfree Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Wonder why south Yorkshire will give you 22.250 but not 223? Heard this from three fac holders that I shoot with That's odd most are the other way round Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonicdmb Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Wonder why south Yorkshire will give you 22.250 but not 223? Heard this from three fac holders that I shoot with Because common sense is not always applied. in the past calibres have been refused then the suggested one that the police say you can have is more powerful, Bear in mind that it is clerical staff working from rules set out by the force they work for and not ballistics experts that make the decisions. Although I must say that Lancashire who I deal with have improved over the years and I have not had any reasonable request refused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Thanks for the replys, the fields i shoot arnt Massive so the .223 is definatly on the cards, am i right in saying they are a lot cheeper in amunition and a lot easyer to quieten down? My 223 likes Privi and at less than 50p per shot it is not worth loading my own. IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markws80 Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I had a 22-250 and loved ,sold it and got a new 243 for deer and fox but about to get a 223 as I used a mates one and loved it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyska Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I went a bit more mental than the 22-250 and bought a 223 wssm, never killed anything more than my current 223 has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 Because common sense is not always applied. in the past calibres have been refused then the suggested one that the police say you can have is more powerful, Bear in mind that it is clerical staff working from rules set out by the force they work for and not ballistics experts that make the decisions. Although I must say that Lancashire who I deal with have improved over the years and I have not had any reasonable request refused. To right I was turned down for 22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire as Magnum rifles where not alias for vermin or fox they advised me .22-250 would be more suitable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 To right I was turned down for 22 Winchester Magnum Rimfire as Magnum rifles where not alias for vermin or fox they advised me .22-250 would be more suitable. ha ha ha! Brilliant. I use a .22-250. It doesn't do more for me than I would with a .223. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aister Posted January 28, 2014 Report Share Posted January 28, 2014 I went for the .223 because it uses less powder, less recoil, easier to moderate, cheaper to run and all things equal should have a longer barrel life and looking at this table the MPB range is only 14 yards less than the 250 for the 55gr soft point. I know this is just one load and different loads can vary a lot but for me I couldn't see the point in burning twice the powder for all it gained. This is just my opinion and my reasons for choosing the 223, I am sure there will be others that disagree. http://www.chuckhawks.com/rifle_trajectory_table.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
happyshooter Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 Well guys ,i am about to get my first centrefire,and have decided on a TikkaT3 lite in .223 cal use this and later go for a .243. atb Brian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 22-250 is the only gun in the UK I don't personally get! .243 win matches it with 55 grns (slightly worse on drop but better on wind) and .223 will do everything it can do to 250 yards, burns less powder, easier to moderate, cheaper to re-load and gives increased barrel life. That said people often buy because they want rather than need and there isn't anything wrong in that, if I ever wasn't allowed .243 it might come on my list as a long range foxer but I suspect a .22 PPC might take the slot instead Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshootist Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 I got talking with a gunshop owner recently about my .22-250. I said that I was considering changing or adding CF rifle that would be easier to carry around and fancied something like a .204. His advice was simply to ditch the .22-250 and get a T3 lite stainless in .243 and shoot light bullets at close to 4000fps, then have the option of a deer suitable bullet in your pocket should the need arise. The .243 does make sense as an all rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ears Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 For me the .223 rem it moderates far better. great round for fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bewsher500 Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 neither of them should be judged on their effective range. boys shooting more dangerous targets than foxes with a .223 and they shoot a hell of a lot further than 300yds! target - all fox or fox/deer/crows etc? bullet choice? range of bullets or lightest fastest you can get? personally I always go with the heaviest I can, drop is easy to account for, wind isn't! cost to feed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted January 29, 2014 Report Share Posted January 29, 2014 What one of the above would you go for and why? What distances do both start to drop at and what distances would it be practical to shoot out to? Thank you antony What else do you have and what do you want to shoot? Yours may seem a simple question but it isn't, I have 8 rifles on FAC and no need for a 22-250, amongst my selection I have a .223 and a .243, with the ammo choice available for those why would I need a 22-250? More info required! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason kaye Posted January 30, 2014 Report Share Posted January 30, 2014 Wonder why south Yorkshire will give you 22.250 but not 223? Heard this from three fac holders that I shoot with Never had a problem with South Yorkshire, had both .223 and .22-250 with out any fuss and on my first variation for a .243 she asked if I'd considered a larger cal for the bigger deer species, so I added a .270 as well as the .243. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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