Charlie_79 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Hi everyone just a quick question, I was out pigeon shooting today and I couldn't seem to stop the pigeons veering away from the pattern at the last minute ?, I know that some of it could be down to the fact that they were just not interested but I just wanted to know if anyone has any little tips or secrets they would like to reveal. My setup was very simple today it was a horseshoe of full bodies (aprox 15 -20) with a bouncer at the open end of the "U" I tried moving the bouncer around but it didn't do much. I made sure the "U" was very wide to try and draw the birds in. I was thinking about adding say 3 bouncers/floaters and setting them back a good 50yards back from the opening of the "U" one on each side and one in the middle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Could they perhaps see movement from the hide , did the hide have a good back to it ? Not a big fan of floaters myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 I too would suggest they were seeing you or your movement at the last minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 (edited) They didn't like the look of something, could have been your flask in the hide to one of your pigeons looking undesirable at the last minute.. Did you move at all before they deviated Edited March 15, 2014 by delburt0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie_79 Posted March 15, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 I set my hide up in front of a very big oak tree and was fully loaded with camo, the only thing I can think of is tht my hide net is a bit too see through for my liking, I'm on the look out for another or at the moment, Because it is a little see through they might have seen bits of my carrying equipment etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 They didn't like the look of something, could have been your flask in the hide to one of your pigeons looking undesirable at the last minute.. Did you move at all before they deviated I didn't realise pigeons are scared of flasks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Hi everyone just a quick question, I was out pigeon shooting today and I couldn't seem to stop the pigeons veering away from the pattern at the last minute ?, I know that some of it could be down to the fact that they were just not interested but I just wanted to know if anyone has any little tips or secrets they would like to reveal. My setup was very simple today it was a horseshoe of full bodies (aprox 15 -20) with a bouncer at the open end of the "U" I tried moving the bouncer around but it didn't do much. I made sure the "U" was very wide to try and draw the birds in. I was thinking about adding say 3 bouncers/floaters and setting them back a good 50yards back from the opening of the "U" one on each side and one in the middle Sometimes, no matter what you do, pigeons will veer away from a setup at the last minute. It may be instinct telling them that something is not quite right. I have pigeons do this sometimes in my pattern, but sometimes it's too late for them and they're in range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 We had the same thing happening today, we were on the edge of a dell and we realised that the wind was strong either side of the dell but zero where the pattern was and they had no air braking capacity. Once we realised this we shot them at distance as they turned to to the wind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Sometimes, no matter what you do, pigeons will veer away from a setup at the last minute. It may be instinct telling them that something is not quite right. I have pigeons do this sometimes in my pattern, but sometimes it's too late for them and they're in range. Totally agree with this. sometimes that's just the way it is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 I am going off bouncers as I feel that they often inhibit incoming birds if they are not in exactly the right place. As an aside, the pigeons today decoyed much better once the rotary had been taken in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shootgun Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Hi everyone just a quick question, I was out pigeon shooting today and I couldn't seem to stop the pigeons veering away from the pattern at the last minute ?, I know that some of it could be down to the fact that they were just not interested but I just wanted to know if anyone has any little tips or secrets they would like to reveal. My setup was very simple today it was a horseshoe of full bodies (aprox 15 -20) with a bouncer at the open end of the "U" I tried moving the bouncer around but it didn't do much. I made sure the "U" was very wide to try and draw the birds in. I was thinking about adding say 3 bouncers/floaters and setting them back a good 50yards back from the opening of the "U" one on each side and one in the middle I had the same problem today, using 9 FUD and 4 full body... i keept changing the pattern and i managed to made the birds land into the decoys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 A little off topic i know, last summer i was watching through binoculars two guys decoying, they were under a flight line but the pigeons were flaring. What i could see from my position was the sun glinting on the arms of their magnet, it was like tiny mirrors. I did think about driving over and telling them what i could see, but after 15 minutes they took the magnet in, after that, pigeons were dropping in to the decoys freely. I know the OP wasnt using a magnet, but it does show how picky the birds can be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 A little off topic i know, last summer i was watching through binoculars two guys decoying, they were under a flight line but the pigeons were flaring. What i could see from my position was the sun glinting on the arms of their magnet, it was like tiny mirrors. I did think about driving over and telling them what i could see, but after 15 minutes they took the magnet in, after that, pigeons were dropping in to the decoys freely. I know the OP wasnt using a magnet, but it does show how picky the birds can be. Painted my magnet with green stove paint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 15, 2014 Report Share Posted March 15, 2014 Painted my magnet with green stove paint. Rapped mine with masking tape before painting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Rapped mine with masking tape before painting wot ever I do to mine it doesn't draw them in not a fan of them to be fair Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delburt0 Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I didn't realise pigeons are scared of flasks.goodness me always one :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I didn't realise pigeons are scared of flasks. If i have my flask in my hand, i am sure of pigeons coming in. goodness me always one :-( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fielddweller Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 From what you've said I would guess at your floater.if you have it at the opening of your U the birds don't like to pass .I don't like or use them any more but if I was I would put it 10-15 yds to the side and same on the other side. As for your net as long as it breaks up your shape it's fine especially as your in front of a tree.Try to sit still and only move when the birds are in your zone,practice getting up and mounting the gun quickly and smoothly. Hth Fielddweller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 A little off topic i know, last summer i was watching through binoculars two guys decoying, they were under a flight line but the pigeons were flaring. What i could see from my position was the sun glinting on the arms of their magnet, it was like tiny mirrors. I did think about driving over and telling them what i could see, but after 15 minutes they took the magnet in, after that, pigeons were dropping in to the decoys freely. I know the OP wasnt using a magnet, but it does show how picky the birds can be. A perfectly sensible observation. That may be what happened to me yesterday. Last year I watched two people decoying in the summer through my binoculars. Birds were flaring well before the pattern and I believe it was due to the reflection of a pair of outsize sunglasses perched on top of one man's head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 I had it today as well on rape, I removed the magnet and they started coming in, Not a great bag but 68 over sat and Sunday.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bone Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 Yesterday a very slow day shooting over rape, as I shot birds they where added to the pattern the odd bird still came in ok. Until I put one shot bird on the ground with wings out stretched simulating movement/landing, Pigeons coming to the pattern all of a sudden jinked away? folded wings up put pigeon on a cradle birds came back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DEADLY PLUMBER Posted March 16, 2014 Report Share Posted March 16, 2014 If they are veering away sharply they are being frightened by some thing. If they are easing away and drifting away they are just not committing. If your on rape try a blob formation with your decoys. Lots of decoys all tight together. That's often how they feed on rape. Move your floaters about. I found last week they were really committed. This week they were very hard to Get in. The rape is now higher and the birds seem to be going in to spring mode round here. My rape shooting looks like it may be over unless it gets cold out. Good luck DP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 If they are veering away sharply they are being frightened by some thing. If they are easing away and drifting away they are just not committing. If your on rape try a blob formation with your decoys. Lots of decoys all tight together. That's often how they feed on rape. Move your floaters about. I found last week they were really committed. This week they were very hard to Get in. The rape is now higher and the birds seem to be going in to spring mode round here. My rape shooting looks like it may be over unless it gets cold out. Good luck DP Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeon controller Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 I am going off bouncers as I feel that they often inhibit incoming birds if they are not in exactly the right place. As an aside, the pigeons today decoyed much better once the rotary had been taken in. If you watch natural bird patterns they will not overfly lifting birds. If you place your flapper,bouncer, angels at the front of the pattern they are unlikely to land but veer off. If you reverse the process and place them at the rear of the pattern they will come close and even land if you let them. The next time you are out try it and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted March 17, 2014 Report Share Posted March 17, 2014 the fact they came in is good for starters...!veering off is usually a) they see movement or b) dont like look of landing area...did you have many dead birds on their back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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