kent Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Let me tell you there is no real legal difficulty in pulling out the Current Europe legally. For one thing we joined a common market not a Europian super state and that is all. the next we are not a Euro currency and the most important bit of all we have a higher power in place over the Government of the day. This is going to happen Europe will break up it is just a case of who goes first and lets face it we are the biggest "customer" in the club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie-fox Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Why...because I'm not a fan of UKIP ? Fundamentally that's what it boils down to...I hate to burst your and everyone else's bubble but neither are 80% of the voting populous. This is indeed a democracy and nobody is going to ram their political agenda continually down my throat...and on a Shooting and Countryside forum of all places. That's all from me on this thread.. although I'm confident someone will post one more derogatory comment.... 10, 9, 8, 7, ........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pavman Posted April 3, 2014 Author Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I would liked to have asked the question...... so Mr Clegg if we are such a massive trading arena inside Europe how come our goods cost much more than in the USA which you say is a smaller trading nation by comparison to the collective European market.... download a music track lets say 99p in the UK whilst in America its 99cents (60P) I want to know where the extra money disappears to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuji Shooter Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I would liked to have asked the question...... so Mr Clegg if we are such a massive trading arena inside Europe how come our goods cost much more than in the USA which you say is a smaller trading nation by comparison to the collective European market.... download a music track lets say 99p in the UK whilst in America its 99cents (60P) I want to know where the extra money disappears to You should buy them from Russia they are only €0.10 So now where does the money go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Nigel's a decent-sounding, plausible chap. However, that does not make UKIP a political party. Rare that we agree, but in this simple statement we do. Unfortunately populist politics is flavour of the month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Thanks, You've exposed yourself to some acidic post now though don't you know. How dare you have a contrary opinion to Good King Nigel... go and wash your mouth out and sit in the corner.. I feel a bit like Henry Fonda in 12 Angry men ...if he hadn't stood up for what he believed in they would have hung that poor black kid... What a surprise! I can be classified as a "golden oldie" myself who has probably seen and experienced as much and probably more than anyone. I depresses me greatly that so many of my generation support "Good King Nigel" whose ideas if enacted will lead to an unholy mess that the younger generations - not "the golden oldies" will have to address in the years to come. However, Mr Farage may indeed come in with the tide in May but he will just as surely go out again........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I would liked to have asked the question...... so Mr Clegg if we are such a massive trading arena inside Europe how come our goods cost much more than in the USA which you say is a smaller trading nation by comparison to the collective European market.... download a music track lets say 99p in the UK whilst in America its 99cents (60P) I want to know where the extra money disappears to OK but then compare the pump price for diesel in EU countries Belgium €1.43 France €1.29 Ireland €1.46 Luxembourg €1.18 UK €1.63 [[£1.34] Price comparisons are meaningless - just pick out the one that suits your argument..... Downloading music tracks is not exactly one of life's essentials! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 However, Mr Farage may indeed come in with the tide in May but he will just as surely go out again........ All incoming tides go out again; it's what they leave on the beach that is of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muffin Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Quite simple for me Labour won't give you a vote Lib Dems won't give you a vote UKIP can't give you a vote Conservatives have pledged to give you a vote if they are re elected and if they do not they are stuffed. I for one will vote to come out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Unfortunately populist politics is flavour of the month. Well it would be... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 I don't get where people think that Nigel Farage is a working class lad - 'one of us'. He isn't. He was Public School educated. He was a commodities trader (not a 'respectable' stockbroker as some think), a street brawling, screaming and shouting, open outcry trader and a bully. He may have mellowed a bit has he got older but his excellence in face to face debate comes from the face to face confrontation on the LIFFE floor (as it was). (the type that KW hates so much) I am not saying that he is better or worse than the others but he is as much in this game for his own good and not for the good of the country. Unfortunately politics corrupts everyone regardless of background. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rab61t Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Any one shooting at the weekend !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Any one shooting at the weekend !! Yep. I'm going for a 704+1 yard hare... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Yep. I'm going for a 704+1 yard hare... 704yd is plausable,but 705yd pleeeeeeeeese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 That's a big Hare! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 An example of the latest catch-all political put-down intended to close debate: if your views are different to mine it is because you are an extremist. Only I am moderate and reasonable; only my views need be discussed. Cameron would make a very good Eurocrat. He seems to have done the training course. Agree with all but the last sentence. Moving house or changing jobs can create a host of difficulties but that is no reason to put off doing so when it is to your advantage in the long term . I don't accept that we knowingly signed up for treaties. All EU treaties to which the UK is signatory have been signed in our name without consultation or democratic mandate. Not a single treaty that I can think of has ever been the subject of an election campaign. In my view they should be illegal without mandate by referendum since by law no government may bind the hand of its successor. Theoretically, every UK citizen who knows where to look may learn the substance of EU treaties in advance of ratification. But we shouldn't have to look. The people we employ to administer our Nation's affairs should act with the utmost transparency and go out of their way to keep us informed, which they have all signally failed to do when it comes to our not dealings with the EU. And in any case, not everyone does know where to look; not everyone would understand what they found if they did; and if we had managed to access the draft legislation and understood it, not one of us has been given the democratic opportunity to register either approval or dissent. That is an extraordinarily devious, evasive and downright dishonest way to conduct the business of government. Gordon Brown, knowing this to be the case, tried to suppress coverage of the signing of the Lisbon treaty (presumably because he knew how damaging it would be to Britain's interests but wished to leave a poisoned challis for his successor after an election he knew he would lose) and even tried to sneak in late for the siging in the hope that no-one would notice, thereby drawing even more attention to himself. Which proves what a stupid person he was. Agreed, it was signed on our behalf with little or no transparency. EU is soft socialism so was Gormless Gordon, result is predictable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottonseed Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 manc-munsters - when you start having a pop at someone's grammar etc., it might help if you got it right. You didn't. ... but it is good to see you entering in to the spirit of things by following a full stop with a comma, and then no capital letter May be everyone should check their facts before wading in If we really want to get down and dirty about grammar and punctuation, Gordon R is correct. The full-stop is a point after the abbreviation of etcetera and should always be followed by a comma, unless the sentence ends with that abbreviation, etc. Back to you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) Cottonseed - thanks. The man is an idiot. :lol: Of course, the remark is purely for comedic purposes. That said, Farage must be making leaders of all political parties just a little uncomfortable. People give him a panning - saying he is like a used car salesman - but he took Clegg to the cleaners. Not that this would take a super-human effort. He strikes a chord with a fair number of people. Edited April 3, 2014 by Gordon R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
armsid Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 i voted 40 yrs. ago for a common market free trade between each member this is not what we have now Farage is a breath of fresh air but is a thorn in the side for the politicians because he tells it like it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodcock11 Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 All incoming tides go out again; it's what they leave on the beach that is of interest. Yes - a load of rubbish usually - aka - UKIP Thanks for the heads up on that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 Yes - a load of rubbish usually - aka - UKIP Thanks for the heads up on that Sometimes, but not always. We'll see. You're welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poontang Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 The fear from some on here is palpable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 (edited) Yes - a load of rubbish usually - aka - Labour Thanks for the heads up on that There I have corrected it for you Edited April 3, 2014 by Yellow Bear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 The fear from some on here is palpable. aint it just, you can smell the sweat. KW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 3, 2014 Report Share Posted April 3, 2014 :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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