Jega Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Had to switch channels before i put my boot through the telly ,bloody hell fire the money these parasites are fleecing us for is unbelievable and now they are bitching about having to leave London for somewhere a bit cheaper for us to pay their rent . No mention of the invisible fathers of this lot putting his hand in his pocket to pay for his kids ,no its all our fault and we should all pay to subsidise their existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rec-baller Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 i know personally of two single mothers--both 17/18 year old who have been GIVEN brand new council houses !! fully kitted out two bedrooms etc,, both fathers have never seen the kids !!!! i work 60 hours a week to support my family- get no handouts etc,, and both the young girls i know bleet on about how hard they have it, yet neither of them have ever worked full or part time or gone to college etc BUT THEY BOTH SMOKE AND %%%%% I-PHONES !!!!! rant over for now shaun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Kept flicking it on whilst I was watching the adoption prog on C4 or C5 and was amazed at the lady who was saying the 3 bed house in Luton was "****" as she put it. Two choices in my view, take it or move back so Somolia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFreeman1310 Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 There's quiet a few girls from my year at school so 21/22 years never worked a day in there life's with multiple kids to different dads and they are out every weekend smoking and shopping just a absolute con and then have the cheek to ask how I afford to do things I do! BECAUSE I ******* WORK !!!!! My rant over John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Have a heart! ... in all honesty some of those house were small, people need room to live ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Geordie Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 There are plenty of genuine claimants that are stereo typed due to the wallers! I know there are a LOT of wallers living locally and are really annoying, moaning about cut backs and loss of certain benefits! I think they need to shut their traps and find a job! On the street I live on there are a handfull of us working. Perhaps 15% of the houses are occupied by working families. The rest are wallers. I really fail to understand how they have NO MONEY. When I was unfortunate enough to have no job I was on enough to have holidays abroad AND run a car. Now I am working and make JUST enough to pay my rent and CT. After that I struggle with other things. We save what little we have to afford a holiday. This year was a coach trip to scotland, last min deal for just over £250 for 2 of us for 5 days. Perhaps once these non genuine spongers HAVE to work, they will understand just how good the benefit payments are! In my view if your GENUINE you would have no problem with the basics. House, heat, food! If you want more than the basics! Get a job! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Have a heart! ... in all honesty some of those house were small, people need room to live ... I only saw a little of the program so can't really comment, except to say that if I, as a hard working father, couldn't afford to live in a certain area then I would have no choice but to find somewhere cheaper to live, and if that means moving away from friends and family then that is what must happen. I do have some sympathy with them as moving away from your home town is hard, but being unemployed and on benefits should not entitle you to more protection from the ups and downs of life than anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 They have little prospect of overseas holidays ... and what opportunity will they have to send money back to their families overseas ...a lots of these people have sworn allegence to the nation and the crown ... at least they deserve annual inflation cost of living rises ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Yes, I would like that too but unfortunately for me and my family I work so I get no such luxury (and haven't since 2009) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFreeman1310 Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Why should benefits rise faster than a working wage It does not matter about swearing allegiance to this country I was born here do I not deserve to have my wage rise with inflation also?what do they genuinely contribute especially if they are sending part of the benefits overseas? John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Well.l feel so guilty about the whole sad episode lm thinking of selling my daughters kidneys and my guns and contribute in some small way, so that they may have a proper mobile phone contract ...lm in bits over it, you obviously dont understand! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Sadly they don't contribute at all, doesn't matter if they are home grown or immigrants. Sadly some innocents will get caught out under the new benefits regime. I do not know what the answer is but we cannot afford to go on as we are. Before the bleeding hearts chip in about tax evasion/avoidance, I also agree that the loopholes need tightening up. What is not right, whether it save £1 or £1 billion is that someone on benefits should receive more than the average uk wage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFN Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Well at least you've got your priorities right, sell the kid's kidneys first, then the guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoggysreels Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Its not something ld jump into ...lv'e given it thought ... lm speaking to the kids next week, the ad goes in the paper tomorrow .. the guns "well. I'll sleep on it" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnFreeman1310 Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Sorry i should have worded that better but your right i did mean home grown benefit claims not contributing. I also realise they are the or people who genuinely qualify or them they are a very good thing but people think that signing on is a job. My friend works at Santander and the amount of people he says go in and ask if there wage ( job seekers ) has gone in is shocking Sorry i should have worded that better but your right i did mean home grown benefit claims not contributing. I also realise they are the or people who genuinely qualify or them they are a very good thing but people think that signing on is a job. My friend works at Santander and the amount of people he says go in and ask if there wage ( job seekers ) has gone in is shocking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liamey Posted April 10, 2014 Report Share Posted April 10, 2014 Blame the politicians and the idiots that vote them in for the mess and entitlement attitude that is so prevalent today. What incentive is there to work when idiots hand them money hand over fist - I daren't even go into the respect piece that you are meant to show the scum that seem to be able to roam round causing misery for law abiding citizens. Sure - for those genuinely not able to work through no fault of their own there should be recourse to some kind of benefits. For the lazy ******** that choose not to work it's about time they got turfed out of their council houses onto the streets, if they perish who cares? I certainly don't! Rant over lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 The money that we, our parents and grand parents paid into the welfare, teaching and NHS systems has been reaped by people who mostly never paid a penny into it thanks to Tony Blair and his cronies who brazenly encouraged mass immigration. That most politicians effectively gave control of our borders to Europe seriously aggravates the rape of our resources yet they bleat that the general population cannot understand why we need Europe! The politicians are the main beneficiaries of European integration because of the laundered money to be made by them within the non accountable shambles - that sees us not only providing for all the economic migrants - but also paying billions to finance the poorer recent entrants. I'm slightly dyslexic so maybe the above comes out bad but I know what I mean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushkin Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 When my parents were first married, they couldn't get a council house because there weren't enough. My old man worked the mines so had a reasonable income - but they couldn't afford or get private rental either so stayed with their sister in law. They had to wait until they had earned X amount of points to get on the council rental; they had 2 kids as well. The exception now though is a new or nearly new refurbished house when you ask for it. The lady from Somalia did herself no favours as far as I'm concerned - getting it for nothing and still getting it for nothing - why does she need to live in London anyway? Pushkin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustJon Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Sadly they don't contribute at all, doesn't matter if they are home grown or immigrants. Sadly some innocents will get caught out under the new benefits regime. I do not know what the answer is but we cannot afford to go on as we are. Before the bleeding hearts chip in about tax evasion/avoidance, I also agree that the loopholes need tightening up. What is not right, whether it save £1 or £1 billion is that someone on benefits should receive more than the average uk wage. Should receive no more than the minimum wage. Giving them the average, tax free, stress free and responsibility free is an outrage in itself. There's not a person on the show that accepted responsibility for their lot in life, that will raise an 'effective/contributing' offspring or that I would choose to employ. God help us if a Labour get back in - at least the Conservates are applying pressure. I'll be voting for more pressure please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dekers Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Always an emotive subject. The welfare state was set up to help those in need, and of course they are still out there, unfortunately the system has be used/abused by far too many and needs much more of a review than it has had recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 To quote Boris Johnson (again) A culture with "an over inflated sense of entitlement" has developed through a series of stupid weak government policies and labour manipulating immigration laws to get more foreigners in to vote for them. I deliberately didn't watch the programme as I knew it would anger me...but can guess the content. We need work houses, benefits should be earned not assumed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprackles Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 The other side of the coin is as Dekers says, the original intention was to help those in need. Fast forward to me......22 years with the same employer but then got sick........won't bore you with the details but I have been off work for approaching 8 months now and my employer won't let me back as yet however they have stopped my pay and my SSP has run out. I am struggling to get benefit of any type and have been helped by a friends wife who works for the DSS to fill in the forms but the best I can expect in my circumstances is around the £50 to £60 a week mark. Living on fresh air at the minute so all the hype surrounding these programs and articles in the tabloids is certainly not what I am experiencing. I reckon if things are not sorted in the next month or so I will be approaching bankruptcy.I am a homeowner so no rent payments and the rules on mortgages mean I get next to nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 Looks like the programme makers got the results they were after; increased blood pressure and outrage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscarsdad Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 The other side of the coin is as Dekers says, the original intention was to help those in need. Fast forward to me......22 years with the same employer but then got sick........won't bore you with the details but I have been off work for approaching 8 months now and my employer won't let me back as yet however they have stopped my pay and my SSP has run out. I am struggling to get benefit of any type and have been helped by a friends wife who works for the DSS to fill in the forms but the best I can expect in my circumstances is around the £50 to £60 a week mark. Living on fresh air at the minute so all the hype surrounding these programs and articles in the tabloids is certainly not what I am experiencing. I reckon if things are not sorted in the next month or so I will be approaching bankruptcy. I am a homeowner so no rent payments and the rules on mortgages mean I get next to nothing. I am sorry to hear of your situation and since you have paid into the system you deserve the safety net support which it is meant to provide. I hope your situation improves soon. The sad fact is though if you were a one legged lesbian Somali Muslim murderer / member of a banned terrorist organisation and you spoke no English you would no doubt get every benefit going... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gimlet Posted April 11, 2014 Report Share Posted April 11, 2014 I am sorry to hear of your situation and since you have paid into the system you deserve the safety net support which it is meant to provide. I hope your situation improves soon. The sad fact is though if you were a one legged lesbian Somali Muslim murderer / member of a banned terrorist organisation and you spoke no English you would no doubt get every benefit going... Exactly. Sprackles' difficulties are precisely the kind of circumstances the welfare state was originally set up to address. Instead it has mutated into a grossly expensive social engineer laboratory where foreign benefit tourism and institutionalised idleness are promoted at the expense genuine short-term claimants who would benefit most from assistance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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