TIGHTCHOKE Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Another terrorist attack, this time in Paris! http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-30710883 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuddster Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 getting closer. f. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) http://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2015/jan/07/shooting-paris-satirical-magazine-charlie-hebdo Indeed - reminiscent of what happened in Sydney - though a bit more organised. Apparently pump-action shotguns used - and a 'Kalashnikov' - Edited January 7, 2015 by aris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbird Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Gosh how awful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Sky News is giving them credit for been good soldiers, & been able to group a AK47 well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 It was bound to happen at some point with these nutters coming home not much we can do to stop it happening I think we just have to live with it. As for the AK47 grouping would that be hard if it was on full auto never shot one so have no idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aris Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 As for the AK47 grouping would that be hard if it was on full auto never shot one so have no idea. Yes, kicks like a mule. There is some video online with the sound of the shots - sounds like semi-auto fire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 The footage of them shooting the policeman I'm the head is awful. amazed it's on the news websites given how graphic it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medic1281 Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Only a matter of time before its in this country. The services have been planning for it for several years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 It would be nice to see a 50k strong demonstration from Muslims across London in condemnation of this... I won't hold my breath. How many times are fundamentalist morons going to behead a kaffur, murder a journalist or shoot a young girl on a school bus before the millions of followers of mainstream Islam stand alongside us non-believers to wipe this scum off the earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo has found that free speech comes at quite a heavy price! Given the global level of terrorist violence and the magazine’s controversial prominence, why were they not better prepared for such a highly predicable possible event?? It will become the norm all over Europe before too long, “If we don’t like what you say we will make you pay, ‘In blood”! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 It would be nice to see a 50k strong demonstration from Muslims across London in condemnation of this... I won't hold my breath. How many times are fundamentalist morons going to behead a kaffur, murder a journalist or shoot a young girl on a school bus before the millions of followers of mainstream Islam stand alongside us non-believers to wipe this scum off the earth? You mean like the thousands who took to the streets when the Christian Serbs raped and shot dozens of young children, or do you mean all the protests when Christian Irish killed family friends, army comrades and family members. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo has found that free speech comes at quite a heavy price! Given the global level of terrorist violence and the magazine’s controversial prominence, why were they not better prepared for such a highly predicable possible event?? It will become the norm all over Europe before too long, “If we don’t like what you say we will make you pay, ‘In blood”! Free speech is no longer allowed when reality and the truth are involved,they will simply say this is just a part of our war against terror and they are criminals, when its not a war against terror and they are not just criminals, its a war against ----oops sorry I cant say the truth? we will wake up one day but by then it may be too late. KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samboy Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 The sooner we nuke them the better. We have all sat here over the years and done nothing but moan. Me included. The sooner serious action is taken the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steppenwolf Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Free speech is no longer allowed when reality and the truth are involved,they will simply say this is just a part of our war against terror and they are criminals, when its not a war against terror and they are not just criminals, its a war against ----oops sorry I cant say the truth? we will wake up one day but by then it may be too late. KW +1 Then again plently of people have died in the world because they have spoken freely about a subject. It is funny how people parrot the mantra of free speech this, free speech that but you realise it's not really free. 2 world wars were thought so we could have some semblance of free speech and now we just take it for granted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Not sure if this breaches house rules (dont think so) please remove if it does,but a new novel out by Michel Houellebecq called soumission (submission to us) might make you think a little.its worth a search KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Free speech stopped when the race relations bills were passed. As a law abiding citizen I cannot say what I am thinking. I assume that I am still allowed to think what I want. Only a radical solution will prevent things like this happening through enough pressure from peaceful citizens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) You mean like the thousands who took to the streets when the Christian Serbs raped and shot dozens of young children, or do you mean all the protests when Christian Irish killed family friends, army comrades and family members. I'm a little too young to recall whether there were demonstrations following the events you mention so I am left wondering whether you really mean; 1. Christians came out in objection to what other Christians had done in Bosnia and Ireland / Northern Ireland so why won't Muslims speak-out now? ...or... 2. Christians did NOT speak out against the crimes of other Christians in Bosnia and Ireland / Northern Ireland so why should Muslims speak-out now? Which is it? Edited January 7, 2015 by Munzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I'm a little too young to recall whether there were demonstrations following the events you mention so I am left wondering whether you really mean; 1. Christians came out in objection to what other Christians had done in Bosnia and Ireland / Northern Ireland so why won't Muslims speak-out now? ...or... 2. Christians did NOT speak out against the crimes of other Christians in Bosnia and Ireland / Northern Ireland so why should Muslims speak-out now? Which is it? Option 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Option 2 so what stopped it please? KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeepThought Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I'm a little too young to recall whether there were demonstrations following the events you mention so I am left wondering whether you really mean; 1. Christians came out in objection to what other Christians had done in Bosnia and Ireland / Northern Ireland so why won't Muslims speak-out now? ...or... 2. Christians did NOT speak out against the crimes of other Christians in Bosnia and Ireland / Northern Ireland so why should Muslims speak-out now? Which is it? I think the key difference here is that to my knowledge the atrocities mentioned weren't specifically carried out in the name of Jesus and weren't prompted by something as seemingly innocuous as a few cartoons. They really aren't directly comparable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 so what stopped it please? KW Apathy, most people just don't care. They'll moan and whinge about stuff but in the end most just don't care. A good example is fox hunting, I know several people who wouldn't sign petitions or make donations against the ban. But they still sit and moan about loss of freedoms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 (edited) Option 2Ah, I see, thanks for confirming! As I said earlier, I don't really remember even the latter stages of the Troubles but certainly what I do recall is everyone and his dog condemning the violence exhibited on both sides by Catholics and Protestants. If I was a Muslim I would be embarrassed and repulsed by what my fellow believers were doing. I wouldn't like to think you feel I'm guilty of double-standards here so I should explain that if I was a Christian I would be equally appalled at the handling of child abuse by the Catholic Church or indeed the Crusades. If I were Muslim I would be speaking to my religious leader and saying, "Organise a march, get everyone involved, we have to show the world we are not all like these evil retards who keep murdering people in the name of our god". I'm Agnostic. Edited January 7, 2015 by Munzy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 I think the key difference here is that to my knowledge the atrocities mentioned weren't specifically carried out in the name of Jesus and weren't prompted by something as seemingly innocuous as a few cartoons. They really aren't directly comparable. The Serbs carried out atrocities to teach the Muslims a lesson. But I get what you're saying it can only be an atrocity worth condemning when the perpetrators are Muslim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kdubya Posted January 7, 2015 Report Share Posted January 7, 2015 Apathy, most people just don't care. They'll moan and whinge about stuff but in the end most just don't care. A good example is fox hunting, I know several people who wouldn't sign petitions or make donations against the ban. But they still sit and moan about loss of freedoms. I asked what stopped it, apathy didn't in fact it was anything but, the difference was is that it was stopped by those who wanted it stopped, here those who could wont? KW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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