scotslad Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) As an Oldham fan I wish a good proportion of the 60,000 people that signed the petition would go and pay to watch a game. I've heard from friends who still live there (and have season tickets) that a threat had been made to rape a relative of a club staff member if the signing went ahead. I truly despair at times According to Radio 1 they're has been quite a few threats of voilence including death threats to club stuff and seemingly someones relative was named and threatened with rape. U really wonder wot goes throu these muppets heads??? Can they not see the irony in protesting about a rapist by threatening to rape and kill folk. Sometimes i actually wonder if we would be better off without the intenet, it certainly seems to bring the worst out off a lot of folk I have no idea wether he done the crime, he has done the time and he should be allowed to carry on playing football, i don't know how good a player he is but i doubt he will really ever be a role model anyway. Even look at the moral standards some of the top footballers have, its hardly the best place to find a moral role model anyway. I think it is quite harsh when because he IS/was a footballer is a good chance why he was targeted attracted to the lass in the first place and possibly why the case was taken further (would it have gotto court if 2 drunk students??) and now being a footballer is being held against him again. I'll never feel sorry for footballers/celebreties but really would not want to be 1 now, everyone has an opinion on u and will often tell u it to ur face no matter how horrible, hoping to get a reaction knowing their mate is filming it on the phone. Which then encourages other duckwits to go to the next level trying to get a bigger reaction Edited January 8, 2015 by scotslad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 To quote the Sheffield United fans including young children from a few weeks ago " there's only one ched evans and he does what he wants" So we may not see him as a role model but a lot of people are impressed by him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 With a standing conviction he is seen as someone who thought he could do anything and get away with it - but didnt. A jury of his peers convicted him and they actually saw the evidence. If you believe in our system of justice then he's as guilty as hell and forced a girl to have sex. All Dads know what that means. If he's guilty on appeal why let him return to a career which turns muppets into kings (according to current societal values). If he's proven innocent on appeal, it is as though it never happened. He is not innocent but proven guilty, as one lady who died recently suggested about a man's statement about her assertion - well he would say that wouldnt he. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 It makes you laugh a lot of people do a lot worse and left alone to get on with their lives, some are even given a new identity to help make it easier. I'm sure if he was from and ethnic minority things wouldn't of got as far as they have. If it was a clear cut rape charge I'd say he's getting what he deserves, but anyone who's looked into it knows there's more to it than meets the eye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Dogs that bite, nonces, rapists etc, the cure is the same, certainly would if it was my family A bit early for dumb quotes of the year, but should still be in the running. :whistling: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Give the guy a break , did he or didn't he only two people will ever know ,murderers do time given jobs money houses , other criminals same, wot about Tyson did they stop him boxing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Dogs that bite, nonces, rapists etc, the cure is the same, not sure how castration is going to stop a dog biting ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Difficult this, we want him to work or more to the point we don't want him on benefits but we don't want him to do the only thing he can, at least in the short term, turn his hand to. He can't travel abroad because of his probation conditions so I'm of the opinion we should allow him to restart his career but with a condition perhaps that he donates a good % of his wages to charity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 norfolk dumpling - not sure how it would work, but half decent idea. As he doesn't appear to need the money - how about 80%? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 IMO hes done his time and should be allowed back playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 IMO hes done his time and should be allowed back playing. Would you say that if he raped a child or a pensioner or is it because his victim was a woman who some say was asking for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallshort Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Isnt this just a lot of rage at the way rape is treated by the state? I mean 2 and a half year of actual prison time for rape seems very leniant and that from what I understand is very normal (5 years half for good behaviour) and there is a growing and vocal group who think this is wrong and its them who are fuelling this Ched Evans thing. He is a high profile target and they can generate lots of debate regarding the sentancing of rapists. Its mob rule and although that is very wrong they do have a point regards prison time for rapists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Would you say that if he raped a child or a pensioner or is it because his victim was a woman who some say was asking for it. So what do you think should happen to the bloke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Would you say that if he raped a child or a pensioner or is it because his victim was a woman who some say was asking for it. Stick to the facts of the case and not make up any old ****. You should have went even more off topic by asking what if he raped a three legged dog,which he got drunk and then thrown out the hotel without a collar on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toontastic Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 So what do you think should happen to the bloke? I don't know, but it stinks of double standards. People saying he's done his time so let him get on with his life, but if his victim had been young or old I don't think we'd have people sticking up for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I think if it was a clear cut case I don't think the people who are sticking up for him on here would have the same views, I know I wouldnt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paddy Galore! Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 (edited) I don't know, but it stinks of double standards. People saying he's done his time so let him get on with his life, but if his victim had been young or old I don't think we'd have people sticking up for him. but she wasn't, was she. don't get me wrong, I can't abide a man that abuses women in any form, but let's not cloud the truth with "what if's" Edited January 8, 2015 by Paddy Galore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kes Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 I think if it was a clear cut case I don't think the people who are sticking up for him on here would have the same views, I know I wouldnt. Doesnt one have to presume the conviction is safe until after an appeal is allowed heard and his sentence quashed? Or are we saying there are degrees of guilt for rape ? Maybe someone could be murdered a bit or not seriously burgled or maybe they were asking for it because they didnt fit Yale locks. My view is he's been found guilty until he's proved innocent he raped someone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pegleg31 Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Doesnt one have to presume the conviction is safe until after an appeal is allowed heard and his sentence quashed? Or are we saying there are degrees of guilt for rape ? Maybe someone could be murdered a bit or not seriously burgled or maybe they were asking for it because they didnt fit Yale locks. My view is he's been found guilty until he's proved innocent he raped someone. Yes, but like I said earlier a lot of people do things a lot worse and are allowed to lead a normal life, some are even given new identities to allow them to do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Me and my better half, for our sins, are season ticket holders at Oldham Athletic, I have only been going for the past 10 years but my partner has been going for over 60 years. He has followed this club through the short lived highs but more often, also ran lows of this clubs fortunes.This incident has torn the club in pieces with most of the fans not wanting the bad publicity that this issue has sprung on them. It is a club with a canny owner, no debt and as such no budget for expensive players, a very young new manager, and a very small annual budget for players. We have an excellent youth manager and do try to bring our players up through the ranks to our first team.. I just hope that some of these people who have threatened the staffs familys and taken mob rule to an unexceptional step get there just rewards.It is very easy to call youself a football supporter these days when supporting the bigger teams is really only like supporting Tescos or Asda, but supporting smaller sides with not alot going for them can be quite difficult, now it looks like our board is in melt down and our sponsers are wavering as well. Lets hope that all these folks that voted for something that didn't affect them will turn up on Saturday and support us . We only normally get crowds of 3500 so I wonder where we will put all these extra thousends that feel entitled to a whinge. from Auntie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mochastorm Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 It makes little difference whether people believe he has paid the penalty for his crime and should now have the right to work in his chosen profession. There are no legal barriers to his working as a professional footballer. This is all about money and sponsorship. If your sponsor threatens to withdraw and you want to pay the wages at the club you don't sign a convicted rapist, it doesn't matter how talented he may be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 This is mob rule at it's worst, the advertisers/sponsors are scared incase they suffer any backlash, but he has done his time even if he is as guilty as sin. As someone said on the previous page wot about Mke Tyson? He was allowed into the UK with rape conviction, made a serious shed load of money after his conviction 100miles wot do u/genuine supporters think? If ignoring al the negative press that goes with it. Are u happy him playing with the team There is a very dangerous precedent being set, others opinions have been forced on 2 clubs now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 This is mob rule at it's worst, the advertisers/sponsors are scared incase they suffer any backlash, but he has done his time even if he is as guilty as sin. As someone said on the previous page wot about Mke Tyson? He was allowed into the UK with rape conviction, made a serious shed load of money after his conviction 100miles wot do u/genuine supporters think? If ignoring al the negative press that goes with it. Are u happy him playing with the team There is a very dangerous precedent being set, others opinions have been forced on 2 clubs now. We both had different opinions on it.The worse for me was that the owner and 2 of the board members went against the managers wishes as the manager didn't want to take him on, so a public spat between the manager and the board. Not good. The official Oldham Athletic site didn't make any statements in 4 days and all this time the press were having a field day. from Auntie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 Sorry to drag this up again, but I can think of two footballers who have killed someone - Mike Tyson served time for rape - all are free to get on with their careers. Just why is this lad different? High profile - Mike Tyson was about as high as they come. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Munzy Posted January 8, 2015 Report Share Posted January 8, 2015 It's pretty simple in my mind, he was found guilty, he served time, he now has a chance to make a life for himself. So, now it's up to everyone to give him a chance if they wish. Frankly any club would be foolish to offer him a chance because they'll lose massive amounts of sponsorship money. I wouldn't give him another chance, I wouldn't give any convicted rapist a second chance. I wouldn't throw him a rope if he was drowning. You want to give him a second chance? Employ the scumbag yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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