norfolk dumpling Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Bet the Tories will love this. Has anyone listened to such a negative miserable person (I'm keeping this polite)?? Perhaps living with Balls is the problem. She seemed to be the person Labour rolled out is response to any Tory development and was so negative. I've never seen her say anything positive - not even for Labour. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Well they couldn't cut it with "the working man". Maybe they'll have more luck with "the female". Either way, they are hopeless at choosing leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Perhaps because they don't have any. Well they couldn't cut it with "the working man". Maybe they'll have more luck with "the female". Either way, they are hopeless at choosing leaders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Mrs Twisty Knickers will do a wonderful job for us ,she`ll keep the idiots unelectable for years hopefully! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 She's damaged goods now, Andy Burnham is in the pocket of the unions, Liz Kendall is another Oxbridge ex special advisor and the other guy seems good but he's a real unknown, he may be on the way up but he's not at leadership level. So who is left? nobody thats who Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matone Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Thankfully ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I think Dan Jarvis is their only hope! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 No suprise that she has put herself up for the leadership. She has the face and skills of a ****house rat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woody walloper Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 does it matter who they pick would think it will be ten years before they stand any chance of getting elected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 If they think Yvette Cooper is the answer, they are heading for a long haul in opposition. They have a couple of credible candidates, but not her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 (edited) No suprise that she has put herself up for the leadership. She has the face and skills of a ****house rat. I don't think she is unattractive physically, in fact the opposite! but her personal manner does need a bit of work? Lol Edited May 14, 2015 by panoma1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I believe she is much more astute than people give her credit for...and I don't think her appearance is an indication of her ability.. Carlos Tevez is an ugly mother but one hell of a footballer. The first rule of engagement...never under estimate your opponent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Fisherman Mike - some politicians manage to hide the fact that they are not very bright and convince some that underneath that dumb exterior, lurks a sharp mind. Think Yvette Cooper, Nicola Sturgeon, Alex Salmond. I don't rate any as the sharpest tack in the box, full stop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welsh1 Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 the thing with Yvette Cooper is that she has been in the political arena for a good while and knows the tricks,she also has Ed Balls on her side who probably knows the dirt on most and will use it to push his mrs. A dangerous Woman, but an extremely dangerous partnership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I believe she is much more astute than people give her credit for...and I don't think her appearance is an indication of her ability.. Carlos Tevez is an ugly mother but one hell of a footballer. The first rule of engagement...never under estimate your opponent. True Mike but ..... Whoever gets the job even our Lord himself ....The Tory press will be standing by to slate them ... Mail will have their cartoonists on stand by ..... Express ..... Leo McKinstry poison pen in sweaty hand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisherman Mike Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Fisherman Mike - some politicians manage to hide the fact that they are not very bright and convince some that underneath that dumb exterior, lurks a sharp mind. Think Yvette Cooper, Nicola Sturgeon, Alex Salmond. I don't rate any as the sharpest tack in the box, full stop. Two of those you've highlighted above though have done pretty well for a couple of blunt tacks. Exclamation Mark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I believe she is much more astute than people give her credit for...and I don't think her appearance is an indication of her ability.. Carlos Tevez is an ugly mother but one hell of a footballer. The first rule of engagement...never under estimate your opponent. I don't FM it's not just the looks, it's the morals and politics, you have to be bright to get through Harvard & Oxford so clearly a bright girl but hardly a working class upbringing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 I don't FM it's not just the looks, it's the morals and politics, you have to be bright to get through Harvard & Oxford so clearly a bright girl but hardly a working class upbringing. You have hit the nail on the head, Labour is not Labour anymore, there is nothing about the party now that reflects the old principles it once stood for. Whats more, it doesn't represent the people it was created to represent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 You have hit the nail on the head, Labour is not Labour anymore, there is nothing about the party now that reflects the old principles it once stood for. Whats more, it doesn't represent the people it was created to represent. Society has moved on, a party pandering to the needs of a single element of the public demographic will wither and die. Look at trade unionism as an example, which was an extension of Labour really, most unions have significant challenges in maintaining memberships. The old values of representing the working man, (very noble), evolved into championing the cause of the poorer in society, (still noble), which morphed into supporting an unnecessary large welfare state, at the expense of everyone else, which isn't sustainable. The SNP have done very well capturing the Labour vote in Scotland because it promises a large welfare state and people want something for nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Two of those you've highlighted above though have done pretty well for a couple of blunt tacks Unclear as to how you define "done pretty well". They have done their level best to bring Scotland to it's knees. As for winning seats - just what are their seats worth? They can't push through their own agenda or block the Tories. Paper tigers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Unclear as to how you define "done pretty well". They have done their level best to bring Scotland to it's knees. As for winning seats - just what are their seats worth? They can't push through their own agenda or block the Tories. Paper tigers. Ah but they will have their excuses well prepared for your second point. Its Westminster, its the Tories, its the English, its all one big anti Scottish conspiracy etc They will turn it around without doubt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Vince - on that I agree. Easy to promise the World only to be thwarted because of the ruthless Tories. If the Scots are stupid enough to fall for that, they deserve them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose man Posted May 14, 2015 Report Share Posted May 14, 2015 Had me going their for a minute , yvette to lead the Reds , thought she had taken over from Steve Gerrard ...it's only more politics , She will make a great leader for the labs , another unelectable Islington socialist ...it's good they stick with this tried and tested policy , makes everyone's job a lot easier when the elections come round .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
norfolk dumpling Posted May 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 The 'reds' surely is Man U not the scouce lot! But yes is agree she would make them unelectable. I see this morning Ben Bradshaw - he of ban hunting fame - has entered the fray. Wonder why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moose man Posted May 16, 2015 Report Share Posted May 16, 2015 The 'reds' surely is Man U not the scouce lot! I bow to your better knowledge of football mate ..what I know or care about 22 prima donna's collapsing like they have been hit by 30.06 every time someone tackles them is not worth knowing ..Bradshaw is in the same league as Mrs Balls .. ( not premier that's for sure ) . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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