Squash wavy Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Hi all Game Fair coming up so perfect timing as I'm in the market for a new gun. A couple of questions with your views of I may? New or used? I have a budget of up to £5k. I can't decide on new or used. I don't really know how to assess a used gun properly apart from a tight action but the savings can be really good. A second hand DT10 can be had for £3k but then I think a new B725 could make more sense. I current shoot a Beretta Silver Pigeon 1 but it is starting to go a little loose - I must have banged 10,000 through it so no real surprise. Easily serviced though. As this one will solely be for clays, mostly Sporting, I could stretch to a DT11 which really tickles my fancy. They seem to be very durable. But anyone have any experience with Zoli?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 Astonished that you have managed to shoot a Beretta loose. Forget Zoli - expensively over-priced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grrclark Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 So many choices available to you in your budget and some really great guns too, but if you have not already done so take a look at Caesar Guerini, you get an awful lot of gun for your money. I just got myself a CG Invictus Ascent and it is a brilliant thing, but the most important thing is what suits you and what will make you feel good. It will also leave you plenty of change in your budget to buy several thousand good carts too. If you go down the Zoli route be prepared to lose a lot of your money should you not get on with it and want to move it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishing Richie Posted July 12, 2015 Report Share Posted July 12, 2015 One that fits is the obvious answer. To answer your question I would buy new over second hand for the same reason as you as you never know how much work it has done. Given your budget I would look at a Miroku MK38 Grade 5 Sporter. Nice reliable gun for clay breaking plus would not look out of place game shooting if desired. You will get one for £2600 before discount. Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I would say your sp1 has only lost its initial new gun tightness I have Berettas that have shot over 200k cartridges.As for buying at a game fair or any other showground I would forget that as it's not the best environment to judge if the gun you are looking at is suited in a tent with hundreds of people milling around you.Also with the cost of trade stands these days they cannot afford to do any deals of any value.Maybe you would benefit from spending a little on a decent coach and taking him with you to help choose the correct gun for you a few dealers have the facility for you to try before buying.personally I would buy second hand as if you do spend 5k on a new one around 1000 pounds of it will just benefit the vat office.The models you have mentioned are all quite different.You cannot buy a gun on what catches your eye so to speak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a303 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I'd much rather have a 2nd hand DT10 than a new 725, night and day difference in build quality. DT10 is a proper bit of clay busting kit where the 725 feels Micky mouse in comparison. Personally I'd rather have a quality good condition 2nd hand top level O/U than a new lower quality one. Not to mention the saving you'll make and the satisfaction of owning a quality bit of kit. After 10,000 rounds the beretta should just be nicely worn in not worn out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooterluke Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Got a cg summit few weeks ago what a peice of kit if i was buying i would definatley go for s summit accent new Got a cg summit few weeks ago what a peice of kit if i was buying i would definatley go for s summit accent new comes with all the chokes you would need and a adjustable comb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archi Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 If you like Browning's look out for a used B25 - B2 G etc You should be able to pick up 1 for around £5k secondhand, try Elderkins of Spalding, they will be at the game fair and usually have a good stock of these available and all will come with free fitting and warranty. Are handmade in Belgium and vastly superior to the Japan based models in respect of handling as new they cost £12000 + Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
countryman Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Had a go with the Browning 725 and i liked it a lot, i see they now have a 725 high rib pro trap out which really appeals to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Kelly Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I'd be looking for a second had perrazzi or Beretta DT/ASE for that sort of money, rather than a lesser gun with posh wood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I went to an open day sponsored by Beretta and Zoli a couple of years ago or whenever it was that the 692 first came out and much preferred the Zoli to the 692. They make some very nice quality guns in my opinion but for whatever reason they're not up there in the 'desirable' bracket so resale could be a potential pitfall. With that budget I'd personally be looking at DT10's, Perazzi or CG even though I'm a Browning fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Doveridge have an open day on the 18th of July - this Saturday - there will be loads of demo guns available to try & also some good deals to be had - especially Beretta's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squash wavy Posted July 13, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Some very good and interesting views, thank you for that. I shall definitely be paying Caeser Guerini some serious consideration. I would love to go to Doveridge this weekend as the demo day does sound perfect but alas, anniversary weekend, I will get roasted by her indoors if I delayed our trip away. Oh also, yes the Beretta is only slightly loose. But it's an excuse nonetheless!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 I shall definitely be paying Caeser Guerini some serious consideration. Very wise. They are seriously good, great handling guns that quite simply tick more boxes than anything else in the £2-4K segment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted July 13, 2015 Report Share Posted July 13, 2015 Just swapped to a summit Impact Black 32"- has the high rib and adjustable comb from a 682 Gold E 30" I absolutely love it - although I was getting good scores with the 682, I shot the CG and it felt so much more comfortable. After a blast at the Pattern plate - bang - maintained my scores and then went on to improve - now shooting low 90's (Skeet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Having seen you shoot I'd look at the 725 instead of the DT10 the 692 would suit you better if you want a Beretta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squash wavy Posted July 14, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Thanks Daf. I was thinking I should message you really. The high comb or an adjustable comb is definitely a must, would you agree? I have you to blame for planting the seed that the current one could do with a service. Thought it a good excuse to get something else!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted July 14, 2015 Report Share Posted July 14, 2015 Yes you need that slightly higher comb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squash wavy Posted July 15, 2015 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 Thank you sir. Duly noted. I am at the Game Fair on the Saturday with the rest of the yups. If you're around, would be good to see you on the row! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pothunter Posted July 15, 2015 Report Share Posted July 15, 2015 If you like Browning's look out for a used B25 - B2 G etc You should be able to pick up 1 for around £5k secondhand, try Elderkins of Spalding, they will be at the game fair and usually have a good stock of these available and all will come with free fitting and warranty. Are handmade in Belgium and vastly superior to the Japan based models in respect of handling as new they cost £12000 + If you want to spend the full £5k, this is what I would spend it on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squash wavy Posted August 16, 2015 Author Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Hello all. Just to update. I ended up purchasing a DT10 from Premier Guns. Really smooth piece of kit. Well pleased. Got to try a load of different things including a Blaser F3 which was very special too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) An excellent gun and with a fine pedigree. Enjoy Edited August 16, 2015 by bostonmick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V8 90 Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Good choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooterluke Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 Sqaush is that a picture of you on there facebook ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alycidon Posted August 16, 2015 Report Share Posted August 16, 2015 I After 10,000 rounds the beretta should just be nicely worn in not worn out! Agreed, flick it open with the trigger hand and reload with the opposite hand, ideal for a flush or driven game. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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