Squirrel101 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Hey guys, not sure if any of you have had this problem and whether this is the right topic to post in as new to PW but i have a new Game silver pigeon 1 and when ever i shoot pigeons/clays it always hits my cheek really hard below my eye leaving me with a bruise after about 20 shots. that much so that it puts me off using it, i have a Berreta semi auto which i am absolutely fine with and no problems at all but it just seems to be my new silver pigeon U/O anyone know why this could be? would be very grateful for any help/tips Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrew f Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Sound like it could be a gun fit problem or something to do with your mounting of the shotgun Or I could be completely wrong and will be soon told so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 My brother has the same problem, plus he is ugly. He had to have a comb raiser and stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningB525 Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Looks like the new gun doesn't fit you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisdom Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Gun fit I think is the stock short? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel101 Posted September 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 the stock is a 30' , what would be the best way to go about it? i do like the look of the B525 but a new gun necessary make a difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 the stock is a 30' , what would be the best way to go about it? i do like the look of the B525 but a new gun necessary make a difference? You need a new tape measure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fenboy Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 It's really impossible to say whats wrong over the internet other than the gun is not fitting you right . You need to go and have a session with a coach who knows how to sort such things . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel101 Posted September 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 i have a padded sock that goes over the back on the butt that might raise/pad it a little, would that be worth trying? im not sure if its to high or to low at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chasechicken Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Could it be there's simply more recoil with the new shotgun? Are semi-autos lighter or don't use the recoil in the same way or something? Or is it the other way round ... hmm..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 (edited) Hey guys, not sure if any of you have had this problem and whether this is the right topic to post in as new to PW but i have a new Game silver pigeon 1 and when ever i shoot pigeons/clays it always hits my cheek really hard below my eye leaving me with a bruise after about 20 shots. that much so that it puts me off using it, i have a Berreta semi auto which i am absolutely fine with and no problems at all but it just seems to be my new silver pigeon U/O anyone know why this could be? would be very grateful for any help/tips Thanks This is a gun fit issue that may have one or more causes, the usual suspects are pitch, comb height, stock length and even poor mounting which isn't likely in this case as you shoot your semi OK. You need to experiment by making small changes to each and then having a few shots to see the effect, a quick and effective trick is to grab a mates gun which doesn't beat you up and lay it on top of yours such that you can spot obvious differences to point you in the right direction. Pitch changes can be made by placing temporary washers inside the screws between the pad and stock. Edited September 4, 2015 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bakerboy Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 It's really impossible to say whats wrong over the internet other than the gun is not fitting you right . You need to go and have a session with a coach who knows how to sort such things . Wise words. Location would help us find you a Coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel101 Posted September 4, 2015 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 Location is Surrey , would be up for trying a session to see if anyone could pinpoint whats going wrong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenholland Posted September 4, 2015 Report Share Posted September 4, 2015 try a lighter load I have always found the new berretta's too light for me anyway.no meat on them try a heavier gun at your local gun shop and may be do a part exchange? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 the stock is a 30' , what would be the best way to go about it? i do like the look of the B525 but a new gun necessary make a difference? might fit a gorilla with a dislocated shoulder? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flycoy Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 Squirrel101 As previously said its gunfit, if the comb( the top of the stock where you cheek rests) is too low you will lift your face to see over the rib of the gun, and the comb will hit you as you pull the trigger. its like someone putting their fist on your cheek and pushing it moves you head but doesn't hurt, if they start with the fist an inch away and push it becomes a punch and hurts!! the 30 inch you refer to is the barrel length not the stock. Get a gun fit from a local coach, Bakerboy isn't too far away I think, he will sort it . If you happen to be goin to the Midland call down to BASC coaching and we will take a look Flycoy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 7, 2015 Report Share Posted September 7, 2015 I have no problem shooting Beretta auto's but Beretta OU's slap me on the cheek. I have no such problems with Brownings or Winchesters, or my current gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonniemax426 Posted September 8, 2015 Report Share Posted September 8, 2015 Hi had same problem with my 687 Beretta. Took it to Nigel Teague in Bristol. Bent stock and took some of the comb for me cost 150 quid bargain. Money well spent and cured problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 We come across this scenario time and time again with Beretta's at our local clay ground-it seems that the design of the stock simply does not suit some people (my son and myself included) and causes bruising and inconsistent mounting. Try a Browning-it seems to be that the worse fit the Beretta is the better the Browning. And before I get moaned at-NO I don't have anything against Beretta's-they build some superb guns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 (edited) We come across this scenario time and time again with Beretta's at our local clay ground-it seems that the design of the stock simply does not suit some people (my son and myself included) and causes bruising and inconsistent mounting. Try a Browning-it seems to be that the worse fit the Beretta is the better the Browning. And before I get moaned at-NO I don't have anything against Beretta's-they build some superb guns. I would have to agree with this. Mate has a Beretta 687 he uses for game and has often mentioned that he has a bruised cheek by the end of the day. He also has a Browning with which this doesn't happen but for whatever reason he still perseveres with the Beretta. I love the Beretta 682 Super sport ( the short black actioned jobby with ported barrels) but got rid eventually partially because it slapped me too much. Nephew also has a Beretta 687 and although it doesn't slap him he bought from me a Winchester 8500 Trap gun as he shoots much better with it! Edited September 13, 2015 by Scully Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry931 Posted September 12, 2015 Report Share Posted September 12, 2015 I had exactly the same problem regarding cheek slap with the club berettas before I had my own gun. My friend said to try his Miroku MK38 and it solved the problem completely so that's what I went out and bought, no regrets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Banger123 Posted September 20, 2015 Report Share Posted September 20, 2015 Had the same problem after a few weeks of using it. Checked my mount and now have no problem love it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris1961 Posted September 21, 2015 Report Share Posted September 21, 2015 GUN FIT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyropredator Posted September 28, 2015 Report Share Posted September 28, 2015 As other have said this is most likely a gun fit problem I had the same issue switching from a semi auto to a 525. What may also be worth mentioning is getting a grippy (as in, grips into your shoulder) recoil pad fitted. My 525 had just a plastic butt pad that would move around and slip when firing causing the exact same issue you are getting with a bruised cheek, when I stuck on a slip over recoil pad half of the problem was gone, the other half was down to poor mounting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenhunter Posted September 29, 2015 Report Share Posted September 29, 2015 As other have said this is most likely a gun fit problem I had the same issue switching from a semi auto to a 525. What may also be worth mentioning is getting a grippy (as in, grips into your shoulder) recoil pad fitted. My 525 had just a plastic butt pad that would move around and slip when firing causing the exact same issue you are getting with a bruised cheek, when I stuck on a slip over recoil pad half of the problem was gone, the other half was down to poor mounting. The slip-on recoil pad lengthened the stock, that's probably what helped. It would probably help the OP too. GH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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