big bad lindz Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 I have and will continue to use my Franche O/U for all 3 although I do have a Bakail semi auto that takes 3.5" cartridges for when I am after the geese on the shore most times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Or one of the new SxS 3-3 1/2" steel proofed guns like the Yildiz. My Midland Gun Co, 3" SxS 12 would be an all rounder for me. Not steel proof, but handles the 1 1/4oz 3" Gambore loads. 425 waterfowl. Job done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Problem with 3 1/2 inch guns is gas seal when used with 70mm or 65/67mm, so whilst they can physically fire all available ammunition, they do not provide full veocity with the shorter cartridges as gas escapes past wad into the shot column and therefore I would not accept as an all rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie10 Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 No problem as it's also 3" chamber . I've shot many ducks/ geese with it but this gun has shot Wood pigeon Rabbit Crow Fox Rats Woodcock Clays What more could I ask of it I would imagine he is talking about wildfowling not shooting wildfowl inland. Guns can easily be ruined on the marsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Only if you don't take a bit of care. A couple of 18" long Y shaped sticks make very useful gun rests and keep it of the mud and salt laden vegetation. I would imagine he is talking about wildfowling not shooting wildfowl inland. Guns can easily be ruined on the marsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Problem with 3 1/2 inch guns is gas seal when used with 70mm or 65/67mm, so whilst they can physically fire all available ammunition, they do not provide full veocity with the shorter cartridges as gas escapes past wad into the shot column and therefore I would not accept as an all rounder. I don't buy that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farma Geddon Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Problem with 3 1/2 inch guns is gas seal when used with 70mm or 65/67mm, so whilst they can physically fire all available ammunition, they do not provide full veocity with the shorter cartridges as gas escapes past wad into the shot column and therefore I would not accept as an all rounder.That is squit mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Problem with 3 1/2 inch guns is gas seal when used with 70mm or 65/67mm, so whilst they can physically fire all available ammunition, they do not provide full veocity with the shorter cartridges as gas escapes past wad into the shot column and therefore I would not accept as an all rounder.Is this based on some scientific fact or practicle experience based on the thousands of clay game and wildfowl cartridges you've fired through a 3.1/2 chambered gun All the best Of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clanchief Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 This gun sounds like it will be along the same lines of a horse designed by a committee turning out to be a camel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B25Modelman Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 I suspect the OP is now totally confused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 Yes you can. but don't let my Mrs know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 4, 2015 Report Share Posted November 4, 2015 I suspect the OP is now totally confused. He shouldn't worry; he's not the only one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
impala59 Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Google "Only fools and horses, del goes shooting " Classic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 Del's pump priceless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I don't buy that. That is squit mate. Is this based on some scientific fact or practicle experience based on the thousands of clay game and wildfowl cartridges you've fired through a 3.1/2 chambered gun All the best Of Scientific fact, in chamber you have highest pressure and slowest speed as powder burns and load starts moving forward. A plastic wad base (seal) cannot cover the unsupported gap between a 65mm cartridge and a 76mm chamber end (or 70mm and 86mm respectively) so you also have a pressure drop (reverse pulse) and shot expansion (into gap) before forcing cone is entered, causing distortion of shot column, hence serious clay guns come in 70mm chambers to match 70mm cartridges. Whilst it is measured in milliseconds, it is evidenced in both pattern formation, pressure maps and muzzle velocity and has been studied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted November 15, 2015 Report Share Posted November 15, 2015 I am sure you are right, Stonepark, in theory. However practical men find out what works in practice. You can fire 70 mm 12 bore cartridges from an AYA 10 bore and they will kill pigeons against all expectation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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