sako751sg Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Hell yes. Nothing wrong with a wee snifter on those cold wet days with good friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyS Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I hope you meant '2 glasses' and not '2 pints'. I always stick to the recommended 21 units per day, nothing wrong with a couple glasses at the end of the beginning of the day.....*hick* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeadWasp Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 At the end of the day it is all about reasonable behaviour - that, after all, is the whole foundation of our holding certificates. As many have said a day's shooting is as much about the social aspect as the shooting. Certainly given my abilities I would say it is about 99% social!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B123 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I have shot hundreds of reg shoots over the years, and I have never seen anyone drinking before or during a shoot, if someone was seen I am sure it would be frowned upon.All these people tend to enjoy their day without the need for drink, so why is it acceptable on a game day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I have shot hundreds of reg shoots over the years, and I have never seen anyone drinking before or during a shoot, if someone was seen I am sure it would be frowned upon.All these people tend to enjoy their day without the need for drink, so why is it acceptable on a game day. A registered clay shoot isn't quite the same as a game shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 To me, do you consume alcohol during the course of your shooting activity is an absolute, ‘No Brainer’? And from ‘The Horse’s Mouth’, BASC’s Health and Safety Guidance, page 25 http://basc.org.uk/shooting/health-safety-2/ And if you are still not convinced, from the CPSA website; ‘Ten Key Points of Safety’, Point 9 https://www.cpsa.co.uk/userfiles/file/RefSafetyA4CPSA_PromptCardsPC1SafetyA4x2.pdf A word about alcohol It may be that you have a break for lunch during the day. Is alcohol served/ available? Obviously, you would not, indeed should not, allow anyone who is obviously drunk anywhere near a gun. But where to you draw the line? Alcohol is a powerful drug (a depressant) and affects different people in different ways. Our advice is simple – guns and alcohol (and drugs for that matter) do not mix! Would you let a surgeon who had just had a couple of glasses of wine operate on your child? No! Nor would I. The safest option is for all Guns to not take alcohol during the shoot. Of course, Basc's advice must always be followed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sako751sg Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I have shot hundreds of reg shoots over the years, and I have never seen anyone drinking before or during a shoot, if someone was seen I am sure it would be frowned upon.All these people tend to enjoy their day without the need for drink, so why is it acceptable on a game day. Ive never shot one but been to a few and ive seen loads who dont enjoy their day and take everything so serious. Maybe they should take a leaf out of the game shooters book and introduce a wee drink into the equation and they might lighten up a tad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rst1990 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 game or clay you have responsibilities. If a accident happened and police could smell liquor on your breath regardless if you are within guidelines it won't look good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris B123 Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 A registered clay shoot isn't quite the same as a game shoot. I'm sure it would still hurt if you were shot by accident, whether it being a clay shoot or a game day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I have shot hundreds of reg shoots over the years, and I have never seen anyone drinking before or during a shoot, if someone was seen I am sure it would be frowned upon.All these people tend to enjoy their day without the need for drink, so why is it acceptable on a game day. Game shooting, as has been said many times, is far more than just shooting. It is a social event, where like minded people get together for a little shooting, a great meal and most importantly spending a day in the field in good company appreciating the good dog work, wiping the eye of one's neighboring gun and complimenting your host on well presented birds. Forget all this emotive talk of drinking, what I and many others are talking about is the equivalent of a couple of thimbles full of port or sloe gin when drawing peg's, a glass of something with lunch and perhaps a nip from a flask during a cold afternoon. Quite why some are painting a picture of overindulgence and squiffy guns blasting away is beyond me. I have always found that game shooters, some of whom have spent a considerable amount of money on a days shooting, are sensible, successful, law abiding people, not the drunkards some seem to delight in portraying them as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 I have shot hundreds of reg shoots over the years, and I have never seen anyone drinking before or during a shoot, if someone was seen I am sure it would be frowned upon.All these people tend to enjoy their day without the need for drink, so why is it acceptable on a game day. Because it is, that's why. They are responsible adults amongst other responsible adults. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 (edited) Perfectly put Charlie. I've given this a little thought. I've had days when I haven't touched a drop. Also days ( usually evenings ) when the booze has flowed and a lot twixt the two. On a few occasions i've seen guns take a preference for the wine after lunch and ask for their pegs to be shot by someone else. No big deal it's their call. Good keepers can influence this. A few years ago I witnessed an altercation on the Spey between a ghillie and a rod. "Sir you are ******, I will no be there when you need fishing out of the river". The rod did not fish that afternoon, he adjourned to the Knockando distillery a mile up the road. Edited December 1, 2015 by Whitebridges Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Yep. yis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spanj Posted December 1, 2015 Report Share Posted December 1, 2015 Judging by the pick-up I followed through Sussex and Hants today I'd say best to err on the side of caution. Weaving from side to side with the tailgate down and the hard top lid up - 2 very worried looking gun dogs in the back in a vehicle crate. At first I thought it was a short hop and the dogs were cooling off - but after 9 miles and the weaving I figured they were out of order. The poor dogs will be in a **** state after being chilled like that. Couldn't get their attention...................... I hope you called the cops........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Because it is, that's why. They are responsible adults amongst other responsible adults. If as a responsible adult shooter you are to blatantly ignore one of the most basic rules of firearms safety, i.e. that when shooting you do not mix firearms and alcohol, (any amount). Then by introducing alcohol into your shooting equation how on earth can you expect to convince anyone outside of your own inner-sanctum of likeminded individuals into believing that you are indeed responsible adults and can therefore be relied upon to comply with all of the other basic safety requirements that are designed to minimise/eliminate the risk of a serious/fatal firearm related accident, or do near-misses not count? “All the Pheasants Ever Bred”, comes to mind! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 We had an orthopedic surgeon living opposite who was brilliant before lunch but sometimes had to be substituted half-way through an operation after lunch, due to drink. it wasn't only the patient that was legless then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 If as a responsible adult shooter you are to blatantly ignore one of the most basic rules of firearms safety, i.e. that when shooting you do not mix firearms and alcohol, (any amount). Then by introducing alcohol into your shooting equation how on earth can you expect to convince anyone outside of your own inner-sanctum of likeminded individuals into believing that you are indeed responsible adults and can therefore be relied upon to comply with all of the other basic safety requirements that are designed to minimise/eliminate the risk of a serious/fatal firearm related accident, or do near-misses not count? “All the Pheasants Ever Bred”, comes to mind! Was that you I saw with a great big sandwich board about your person, walking back and forth along the high street the other day proclaiming jonah 4.9 Beware the demon drink. Me, I rather go along with Frank Sinatra's view, I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they are going to feel all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Was that you I saw with a great big sandwich board about your person, walking back and forth along the high street the other day proclaiming jonah 4.9 Beware the demon drink. Me, I rather go along with Frank Sinatra's view, I feel sorry for people who don't drink. When they wake up in the morning, that's as good as they are going to feel all day. CharlieT, I apologise if I have given you the wrong impression, as I am not opposed to having a drink after the last shot has been fired and the guns put safely away, assuming you are not driving afterwards of course. What I am very much against is using alcohol as a social aid whilst shooting is taking place and you are in control of a loaded firearm. Even though I am sure that every effort is made to implement all other safety procedures during the course of the event I believe that alcohol is such an unpredictable and easily avoided potential safety variable of what I am sure is an otherwise very safe and rewarding day out, that it should be consigned to the after-the-event category of a shoot’s/shooters customary practise! Safe shooting to you and yours, oh, and as I appreciate how much my views on the subject will have influenced your modus operandi, ‘Bottoms Up’! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 This is gold dust for anti's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 CharlieT, I apologise if I have given you the wrong impression, as I am not opposed to having a drink after the last shot has been fired Safe shooting to you and yours, oh, and as I appreciate how much my views on the subject will have influenced your modus operandi, ‘Bottoms Up’! No need to apologise as you have not, in any way, given the wrong impression. I just thought I'd end the thread on a lighter note............. Whilst filling my hip flask ready for tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 If as a responsible adult shooter you are to blatantly ignore one of the most basic rules of firearms safety, i.e. that when shooting you do not mix firearms and alcohol, (any amount). Then by introducing alcohol into your shooting equation how on earth can you expect to convince anyone outside of your own inner-sanctum of likeminded individuals into believing that you are indeed responsible adults and can therefore be relied upon to comply with all of the other basic safety requirements that are designed to minimise/eliminate the risk of a serious/fatal firearm related accident, or do near-misses not count? “All the Pheasants Ever Bred”, comes to mind! I don't need to convince anyone of anything. I am a law abiding, responsible adult with a brain and as such am totally capable of taking responsibility for my own actions, while being totally aware of what those responsibilities entail. As such I don't need nor will I tolerate you or any other holier than thou character telling me how I should behave. If you don't agree with having a 'tipple' then as I've already said, don't have one, but please stop telling others how they should conduct themselves. This is gold dust for anti's I really couldn't care less what the antis think. If I cared what they thought I wouldn't be shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STOTTO Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 I don't need to convince anyone of anything. I am a law abiding, responsible adult with a brain and as such am totally capable of taking responsibility for my own actions, while being totally aware of what those responsibilities entail. As such I don't need nor will I tolerate you or any other holier than thou character telling me how I should behave. If you don't agree with having a 'tipple' then as I've already said, don't have one, but please stop telling others how they should conduct themselves. Scully. some powerfully differing views on a subject sometimes require being intensely debated and is often to the benefit of those monitoring the arguments, and it always strengthens the jaw of those doing the arguing! Regards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alastair0903 Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Live and let live . Personaly i have never been concerned about the amount anyone has drank on a driven day . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted December 2, 2015 Report Share Posted December 2, 2015 Intemperate habits has always been one of the grounds for refusing a firearm certificate. 2 drink-driving bans has been enough in some cases for losing a SGC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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