CharlieT Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Look at the private gentlemen clubs. Any clubs that have members would look to help eachother. You only have to look at the Lord Geordie thread to appreciate how the Pigeon Watch fraternity act in exactly the same way. Any club/organisation/fraternity, call it what you will, that fosters and encourages support to others and brings out the best in people can't be a bad thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Not all are as nice as Pigeon Watch. This forum has some of the nicest genuine people you could meet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 (edited) They have a very good support program for families for a starter... +1. They put my cousin through boarding school after his member father died when he was barely out of nappies. Edited April 22, 2016 by rjimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novice cushie shooter Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 The only other org that gives more to charities is the national lottery . And keep in mind there all non state funded charities too . So the money goes right where its needed . Have a look here at just some.of the stuff we did last year http://www.pgllincs.org/News/2739-Freemasons_Support_UK_Charities Most people have no knowledge of how much lodges support charities. We support prostrate scotland and SANDS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fisheruk Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 They funded the purchase of a buggy for one of our local nature reserves. It is free to use and in valuable use most days. No strings attached, very generous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seph234 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Its been said already but its nice if the jewels go back to the members lodge, they can be used again for any new masters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrycatcat1 Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 The only other org that gives more to charities is the national lottery . And keep in mind there all non state funded charities too . So the money goes right where its needed . Have a look here at just some.of the stuff we did last year http://www.pgllincs.org/News/2739-Freemasons_Support_UK_Charities Well you learn something new every day, (I am Not being sarcastic) I just didnt know. Very good work Regards Hcc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) Eh? I'm not in the rolly trouser brigade and never will be. When I went through university the criminal modules were all about how and why PACE came about and it was all bent coppers, funny handshakes and operation Tiberius. . Whilst I know that the organisation of today is not the organisation of yesterday and I know they give a lot to charity and I'm sure they run a cracking ladies night, but to me there's still that smell... I agree with you about Masons in the police. http://www.sunray22b.net/police_corruption_and_freemasonry.htm It still goes on today. It is a cancer within the Masonic organisation that they should have dealt with years ago. Otherwise it does a lot of good work. Edited April 23, 2016 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_seagrave Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 London's second Air Ambulance was substantially bought by Freemasons. A million quid, as I recall. You can see Masonic symbols on the back. I work for a London Guild and although there is very little of the Masonic-type secrecy, there is still a bit of dressing up and ceremonial. The money raised for charity, education and outreach is very significant, tens of millions of pounds every year across the London Livery Companies and Guilds. The parallels with PW is very obvious. The charity, the fraternity, the symbol of the crossed guns and pigeon, the regular chanting of "Burn-Ley-Dave, Burn-Ley-Dave" and the ceremonial putting in of doors... If there was a Pigeonwatch Lodge I'd be first in line. LS PS: maybe there is a Pigeonwatch Lodge... :unsure: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 (edited) People believe what they want to believe, and deny what they don't want other people to believe. There's some contractors doing some work close by and they have a compound on my place with night-time and weekend security. The coloured chap doing the security turns out to be a Pakistani so I asked him what he thought about ISIS. "It's all ********(male bovine excrement)" He said. "They are being financed by the Zionists and the Freemasons." Edited April 23, 2016 by rjimmer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 People believe what they want to believe, and deny what they don't want other people to believe. There's some contractors doing some work close by and they have a compound on my place with night-time and weekend security. The coloured chap doing the security turns out to be a Pakistani so I asked him what he thought about ISIS. "It's all ********(male bovine excrement)" He said. "They are being financed by the Zionists and the Freemasons." The weird thing in this world is that you can never be 100% sure he's not right........................................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rjimmer Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 The weird thing in this world is that you can never be 100% sure he's not right........................................... Well, it got me thinking....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevo Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 The weird thing in this world is that you can never be 100% sure he's not right........................................... really Well, it got me thinking....... really ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Masons, like Jews, are blamed for a host of ills and praised for very little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longspoon Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 Reading this thread, it strikes me that a number of people are "frightened" by what they perceive to be a secret society, masonry, is a society with secrets, a totally different kettle of fish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GingerCat Posted April 23, 2016 Report Share Posted April 23, 2016 I'd suggest they join and see for themselves what it's all about. Frankly I find it a thoroughly good night and we raise some monies for the local community,all of which is accountable and not funding isis despite some nutjobs wet dreams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Reading this thread, it strikes me that a number of people are "frightened" by what they perceive to be a secret society, masonry, is a society with secrets, a totally different kettle of fish. Its also still "technically" an illegal organisation remember. Back in the day these secret societies were secret for a reason. It was/is treason to swear allegiance to anyone except the monarch. I don't think many masons get hung drawn and quartered these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Its also still "technically" an illegal organisation remember. Back in the day these secret societies were secret for a reason. It was/is treason to swear allegiance to anyone except the monarch. I don't think many masons get hung drawn and quartered these days. But the Masons do swear allegiance to the monarch! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Masonic charity donations are substantial which is why I acknowledged that in my post. Now, can anyone justify or rationale the reason for becoming a mason (if indeed you are not in the stone working industry) and without mentioning charitable donations or ladies night? . Edited April 24, 2016 by Mungler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodp Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 (edited) Masonic charity donations are substantial which is why I acknowledged that in my post. Now, can anyone justify or rationale the reason for becoming a mason (if indeed you are not in the stone working industry) and without mentioning charitable donations or ladies night? . They like dressing up and chanting ? A bit like Morris dancing but without the sticks Edited April 24, 2016 by rodp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felly100 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Bit of man tangle? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Masonic charity donations are substantial which is why I acknowledged that in my post. Now, can anyone justify or rationale the reason for becoming a mason (if indeed you are not in the stone working industry) and without mentioning charitable donations or ladies night? . its just an excuse to meet up with like minded people and have the craic and raise a bit of money for good causes , quite similar to the pw charity shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mungler Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 its just an excuse to meet up with like minded people and have the craic and raise a bit of money for good causes , quite similar to the pw charity shoot. Why not join Roundtable or Rotary then? (Serious question) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 for me it was a family thing. Father in law was in as were three generations before him. He had four girls so the " line" would have been broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
secretagentmole Posted April 24, 2016 Report Share Posted April 24, 2016 Masonic charity donations are substantial which is why I acknowledged that in my post. Now, can anyone justify or rationale the reason for becoming a mason (if indeed you are not in the stone working industry) and without mentioning charitable donations or ladies night? . Beer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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