bullet1747 Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Was going to buy a new gun today for my 50th yesterday , had a chat and fancy taking the wife clay pigeon shooting , to get her into shooting hopefully the kids will fall into place , think 12 gauge is a bit to much for her , is 20 gauge the way to go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I bought my wife a Silver Pigeon S 12g with 28" barrels which she has no problem with. She used to have a Franchi Veloce 20g but cartridges are much cheaper in 12g. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonepark Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 A 7lb 12 gauge with 21g or 24g will allow most flexibility. Be aware due to differences in female biology and build she may require a stock cut out to allow comfortable fit against shoulder and collar bone, so keep in mind extra cost or get something with a deep recoil pad so you are only cutting rubber and can be replaced if you sell the gun on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbiep Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 My wife (5'2" tall and 8 stone) uses a Silver pigeon in 20 bore. A 12 bore is just too 'nose-heavy' for her to be able to use without having to lean back to counterbalance the weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TbirdX Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 My Mrs started with a Hatsan youth 20g semi, briefly tried a 7lb U/O but couldn't get on with it, went up to a Maxus 12g semi with 26" barrels and now shoots a Maxus 12g semi with 28" barrels. She's 5ft 2" and 8 stone also. She can manage the weight fine as long as she doesn't have to hold the gun up for ages. Good luck :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I can think of lots of women who shoot happily with a 12, certainly far more than those using a 20. Sian is a member here who shoots a 12g SP-1 and if she doesn't see this it might be worth dropping her a PM. Failing that why not take your wife somewhere to handle a few guns. In my experience, choosing things for women without consulting them fully doesn't usually work out well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMT Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 My wife has had more guns than me! I tried various different 12b, including an auto because everyone told me either a 20b would not be enough gun or it would have too much recoil. I eventually bought her a silver pigeon 20b and its the best thing I ever did. She absolutely loves it to bits (more than me). She uses 24g on clays and regularly beats the other blokes in our squad. She uses RC sipe 28g on game and she never seems to notice the extra recoil due to the excitement. It is a bit of a double edge sword though. On the upside she now enjoys shooting so much we are going at least once a week if not twice (we went to two different grounds on Wednesday), on the downside I have had to sell a kidney to pay for all her cartridges and extra clays. Can she shoot a 12b? Absolutely!! Does she enjoy shooting her 20b more? Without a doubt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Bet your wife does backflips and gives you a big grin when you say your taking her to handle as many guns as she can to find one she likes and fits her well I think for smaller women a 12g lightweight semi auto is the best gun. Next to no recoil the stock can be shimmed to suit them they can fire a bigger range of 12 gauge carts without being kicked around and the single barrel keeps the weight further back for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I can't understand why we men patronise women by assuming they're frail, weak and unable to handle recoil. I do quite a lot of reffing at registered sporting shoots and see probably at least a dozen women competing over the course of an average month. I can only think of 2 who have a recoil reducer, 1 who shoots a semi and none at all shooting a 20g. As before, I've shot with or reffed many women over the years and I'm certain that with some practice & familiarity, virtually any normally fit woman can handle a standard 12 comfortably. Just ask Sian, she's not at all a big lady but frequently competes at 2 registered shoots with her 12g SP-1 on a typical Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fortune Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Does SHE actually want to go clay shooting, or do you think that she might. I've seen quite a few people go out and get all kitted out only to sell it all off at a big loss cos the woman had no interest in going shooting in the first place. There is no reason why a woman can't compete and beat men on even terms with a gun but a lot just have no interest in shooting at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonny thomas Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I can't understand why we men patronise women by assuming they're frail, weak and unable to handle recoil. I do quite a lot of reffing at registered sporting shoots and see probably at least a dozen women competing over the course of an average month. I can only think of 2 who have a recoil reducer, 1 who shoots a semi and none at all shooting a 20g. As before, I've shot with or reffed many women over the years and I'm certain that with some practice & familiarity, virtually any normally fit woman can handle a standard 12 comfortably. Just ask Sian, she's not at all a big lady but frequently competes at 2 registered shoots with her 12g SP-1 on a typical Sunday. I've read all the posts on this topic not one has been patronising It's just facts I'm 6'4'and 17 stone My wife is 5'2" and 8 stone She can't pick things up that I can with ease I can't fit places she can These are facts not prejudices Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pontbeck Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I find when coaching a complete novice ( lady ) the weight of the gun is more of a problem than the recoil. I would start with a 20 bore and if she is a keen shot and enjoys the hobby a movement to 12 bore , in the future should not be a problem. I often coach couples and invariably the lady will choose to shoot a 20 , in preference to a 12 based purely on weight alone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EMT Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I have seen a big increase in the popularity of the smaller bores over the years with a 28b being quite "in fashion" on a few of my local game shoots. One of the blokes who we shoot clays with is 20 stone and 6'2" and uses a stunning caesar guerini 20b to very good effect. It's strange how when a bloke uses a smaller bore it is not met with the same cynicism as when a woman chooses a 20b for whatever reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 i wouldnt mind a 20 bore in 24" flavour... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 thought this was a SWAP?...mood mines in you could have her for a rusty Baikal.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenlivet Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Was going to buy a new gun today for my 50th yesterday , had a chat and fancy taking the wife clay pigeon shooting , to get her into shooting hopefully the kids will fall into place , think 12 gauge is a bit to much for her , is 20 gauge the way to goJust re-read your post. Are you thinking of sharing gun? If so, given your differences in build, it's unlikely to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonmick Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I can't understand why when people ask for opinions on what gun might suit their wives and girlfriends the CG syren never gets a mention. as they were designed for the female shooter might be a good place to start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 I've read all the posts on this topic not one has been patronising It's just facts I'm 6'4'and 17 stone My wife is 5'2" and 8 stone She can't pick things up that I can with ease I can't fit places she can These are facts not prejudices Thanks I agree not one has patronised any female , I just don't want her to be put off looking forward to taking her even daughter wants to go now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 It's nothing to do with prejudices verb: patronise 1. treat with an apparent kindness which betrays a feeling of superiority. "‘She's a good-hearted girl,’ he said in a patronizing voice" Would you choose your wife's hair straighteners or her handbag? It is patronising to say "think 12 gauge is a bit much for her" without taking the trouble to find out for sure. Probably untintentional and meant with the best of motives but it's still patronising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry136 Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Depends on how much arm strength she has. I bought my Ex a 20g Lincoln Premier. One thing you need to bear in mind is that women are a different shape and the gun may need modification. I had to have the toe removed from the stock and an adjustable comb fitted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Just re-read your post. Are you thinking of sharing gun? If so, given your differences in build, it's unlikely to work. No mate it's for her I have five shot guns Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malkiserow Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Was going to buy a new gun today for my 50th yesterday , had a chat and fancy taking the wife clay pigeon shooting , to get her into shooting hopefully the kids will fall into place , think 12 gauge is a bit to much for her , is 20 gauge the way to go how about a lesson with a coach and try different ones in the lessons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bullet1747 Posted April 22, 2016 Author Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 It's nothing to do with prejudices verb: patronise 1. treat with an apparent kindness which betrays a feeling of superiority. "‘She's a good-hearted girl,’ he said in a patronizing voice" Would you choose your wife's hair straighteners or her handbag? It is patronising to say "think 12 gauge is a bit much for her" without taking the trouble to find out for sure. Probably untintentional and meant with the best of motives but it's still patronising. This isn't an argument post please keep it nice , I'm trying to find out wots best for the misses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aga man Posted April 22, 2016 Report Share Posted April 22, 2016 Here you go mate, just the job! http://bagnallandkirkwood.co.uk/product/hatsan-escort-muddy-girl-20g-semi-auto-shotgun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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