team tractor Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Has anyone else seen the guy in America attacked by a bear? He was out looking at elk when he walked out on a bear with young. He was attacked twice he's a lucky guy. I'll find a linky https://www.google.co.uk/amp/www.mysanantonio.com/news/local/amp/Man-survives-two-consecutive-grizzly-bear-9558279.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fse10 Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 A very lucky guy indeed. Think i'd be carrying a 500 s&w if i was in grizzley country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted October 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Lucky man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adge Cutler Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) The wounds look a bit grizzly, but I suspect the nurses panda’d to his wounds. Good job he was bespectacled or he could have ended up with polar vision. Did the bear chew his kodiak? Lucky to be alive Himalayan there like that. Perhaps the bear was after his Coca - koala ( ok I know the koala is a marsupial ) Edited October 3, 2016 by Adge Cutler Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7daysinaweek Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Adge could not bear your post! atb 7diaw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 A very lucky guy indeed. Think i'd be carrying a 500 s&w if i was in grizzley country. The guy was as you said very lucky as for carrying a 500 S&W rather you than me they waigh a tone the fact is he was in there looking for bears if you do that its at your own risk what would have happend to the cubs if he killed there mother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) when I was in Alaska I had a long chat with the local wild life officer. She carried a .44 magnum as a sidearm. She explained that having a rifle was ok if the charge was anticipated but they very rarely are. Up close even the short barrel rifles are useless. The day before I arrived a local picking berries had her bottom jaw ripped of in one swipe by a brown bear. 4wd. He was hiking, not looking for bears. If I was attacked I wouldn't hold fire and think " what about the cubs if I kill the sow, I'll just let her maul me". Edited October 3, 2016 by digger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) He could have carried a gun to save his life and bear spray is supposed to be quite good, Think id shoot near to scare them off if that dont work then use the Bear spray and keep hold of the gun. Only a fool goes into Bear country with no self defence. Being attacked twice reminds me of the old Chubby Brown Bear Hunting joke,very funny joke but dare not put a link as i'd get into bother. Edited October 3, 2016 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 (edited) The 'You're not here for the hunting, are you mate?' one by any chance? He could have carried a gun to save his life and bear spray is supposed to be quite good, Think id shoot near to scare them off if that dont work then use the Bear spray and keep hold of the gun. Only a fool goes into Bear country with no self defence. Being attacked twice reminds me of the old Chubby Brown Bear Hunting joke,very funny joke but dare not put a link as i'd get into bother. Edited October 3, 2016 by Penelope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sha Bu Le Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Canadian wildlife and fisheries put warning notices up to warn hikers of the dangers of bears. "Please be aware there are brown bears and grizzly bears in these woods. In order to give either bear warning of your approach you should hang little bells on your clothing and as a means of defence carry an anti bear spray aerosol. In order to tell which breed of bears may be in the area watch out for bear droppings. Brown bear poo contains nuts and berry husks and smells like poo whilst grizzly bear poo contains little bells and smells of anti bear spray". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 blimey that is one lucky dude. Being attacked by a bear must be one of the most scary things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 when I was in Alaska I had a long chat with the local wild life officer. She carried a .44 magnum as a sidearm. She explained that having a rifle was ok if the charge was anticipated but they very rarely are. Up close even the short barrel rifles are useless. The day before I arrived a local picking berries had her bottom jaw ripped of in one swipe by a brown bear. 4wd. He was hiking, not looking for bears. If I was attacked I wouldn't hold fire and think " what about the cubs if I kill the sow, I'll just let her maul me". It seems that I read it wrong I thought he said that he went out looking for bears People say about frightening them by shooting a gun in the air a tactic that I would have used but they do say that it does not work if a bear is coming there is not much that will stop it even a big pistol you would need a good head shot to stop it hitting it in the body would not stop it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Documented evidence of a hunter being charged by a grizzly and stopping it at 10 feet with a center mass shot. Guy used a 44 magnum, if you hit the bear center it won't be anything much other than dead. He took the shot and it fell dead three feet from him. They are big but not invincible. My guide advised if we were charged the best thing was to run faster than him. There was a 30.06 with 220 gr loads which was the camp rifle and is widely used for bears in Alaska. I know zero about fire arms for protection so was happy to see bears and give them a wide berth. Shouting " hey bear" just makes them look at you like you are insane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisondan Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Documented evidence of a hunter being charged by a grizzly and stopping it at 10 feet with a center mass shot. Guy used a 44 magnum, if you hit the bear center it won't be anything much other than dead. He took the shot and it fell dead three feet from him. They are big but not invincible. My guide advised if we were charged the best thing was to run faster than him. There was a 30.06 with 220 gr loads which was the camp rifle and is widely used for bears in Alaska. I know zero about fire arms for protection so was happy to see bears and give them a wide berth. Shouting " hey bear" just makes them look at you like you are insane I've fired a .44 magnum pistol and a 30.06 rifle (M1 Garand) at a range in Vegas and I would certainly not want to get on the wrong end of either, both scarily powerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Shows my lack of fire arm knowledge. Isn't the M1 the stock rifle from WW2 ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 The 'You're not here for the hunting, are you mate?' one by any chance? Yes that's the one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bisondan Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 Shows my lack of fire arm knowledge. Isn't the M1 the stock rifle from WW2 ? Certainly is, great fun to shoot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lister22 Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 watching tv in work last week guy fishing in Canada the guide would make a cry as he was walking lad in work asked why make a noise i said because of bear he said but the bear will hear you i said exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimmie Posted October 3, 2016 Report Share Posted October 3, 2016 He was armed, the bear ripped his belt off which had a holstered pistol on it. He also had and used bear spray, but it didn't do the job and the bear still attacked. Very lucky indeed!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 He could have carried a gun to save his life and bear spray is supposed to be quite good, Think id shoot near to scare them off if that dont work then use the Bear spray and keep hold of the gun. Only a fool goes into Bear country with no self defence. Being attacked twice reminds me of the old Chubby Brown Bear Hunting joke,very funny joke but dare not put a link as i'd get into bother. He did have a pistol, but he couldn't get to it in time first charge, and second attack ripped his holster off and threw gun away from him. His account for those that are interested: Note from Todd: Thought I should share yesterday morning's Grizzly incident. I took an early morning hike in the Madison valley to scout for elk. Knowing that bears are common throughout southwest Montana, I hollered out "hey bear" about every 30 seconds so as to not surprise any bears along the trail. About three miles in, I stepped out into an open meadow and hollered again. A few more steps and I spotted a sow Grizzly bear with cubs on the trail at the upper end of the meadow. The sow saw me right away and they ran a short distance up the trail. But suddenly she turned and charged straight my way. I yelled a number of times so she knew I was human and would hopefully turn back. No such luck. Within a couple seconds, she was nearly on me. I gave her a full charge of bear spray at about 25 feet. Her momentum carried her right through the orange mist and on me. I went to my face in the dirt and wrapped my arms around the back of my neck for protection. She was on top of me biting my arms, shoulders and backpack. The force of each bite was like a sledge hammer with teeth. She would stop for a few seconds and then bite again. Over and over. After a couple minutes, but what seemed an eternity, she disappeared. Stunned, I carefully picked myself up. I was alive and able to walk so I headed back down the trail towards the truck 3 miles below. As I half hiked and jogged down the trail, I glanced at my injuries. I had numerous bleeding puncture wounds on my arms and shoulder but I knew I would survive and thanked god for getting me through this. I hoped the bleeding wasn't too significant. I really didn't want to stop to dress the wounds. I wanted to keep moving and put distance between us. About five or ten minutes down the trail, I heard a sound and turned to find the Griz bearing down at 30 feet. She either followed me back down the trail or cut through the trees and randomly came out on the trail right behind me. Whatever the case, she was instantly on me again. I couldn't believe this was happening a second time! Why me? I was so lucky the first attack, but now I questioned if I would survive the second. Again I protected the back of my neck with my arms, and kept tight against the ground to protect my face and eyes. She slammed down on top of me and bit my shoulder and arms again. One bite on my forearm went through to the bone and I heard a crunch. My hand instantly went numb and wrist and fingers were limp and unusable. The sudden pain made me flinch and gasp for breath. The sound triggered a frenzy of bites to my shoulder and upper back. I knew I couldn't move or make a sound again so I huddled motionless. Another couple bites to my head and a gash opened above my ear, nearly scalping me. The blood gushed over my face and into my eyes. I didn't move. I thought this was the end. She would eventually hit an artery in my neck and I would bleed out in the trail... But I knew that moving would trigger more bites so a laid motionless hoping it would end. She suddenly stopped and just stood on top of me. I will never forgot that brief moment. Dead silence except for the sound of her heavy breathing and sniffing. I could feel and her breath on the back of my neck, just inches away. I could feel her front claws digging into my lower back below my backpack where she stood. I could smell the terrible pungent odor she emitted. For thirty seconds she stood there crushing me. My chest was smashed into the ground and forehead in the dirt. When would the next onslaught of biting began. I didn't move. And then she was gone. I tried to peek out without moving but my eyes were full of blood and I couldn't see. I thought that if she came back a third time I would be dead, so I had to do something. Staying in position on the ground, I slowly reached under my chest to grab at the pistol I was unable to get to earlier. I felt I needed something to save my life. The pistol wasn't there. I groped around again but nothing. I wiped the blood from one eye and looked around. No bear. The pistol and holster were lying five feet to my left. The bear's ferocious bites and pulling had ripped the straps from the pack and the holster attached to it. Now trashed, that backpack may have helped prevent many more serious bites on my back and spine. I picked everything up and moved down the trail again. I couldn't believe I had survived two attacks. Double lucky! Blood was still dripping off my head and both elbows and my shirt was soaked to the waist and into my pants. But a quick assessment told me I could make it another 45 minutes to the truck without losing too much blood. I continued the jog just wanting to put more distance between that sow and I. At the trailhead was one other vehicle. I really hoped that person didn't run into the same bear. I snapped a couple quick photos and a video of my wounds, laid some jackets over the truck seat and headed for town. I stopped a rancher along the way and asked him to make a call to the hospital. When I got into cell service, I made a quick call to my girlfriend to ask how her morning was going, before freaking her out and asking her to bring me a change of clean clothes to the hospital. Another call to 911 and I gave the operator a quick run down of my injuries and asked her to call the hospital and give them a heads up that I was ten minutes out. Moments later I was met at the front door by the doctor, nurse and an officer. I had to ask the officer to open the door, put my truck in park, and unbuckle my seat belt. My left arm was useless. He was impressed I had taken the effort to buckle. Once inside, the x-rays revealed only a chip out of the ulna bone in my forearm. Following was eight hours of stitching to put me back together. Most were arm and shoulder punctures and tears. A 5" gash along the side of my head will leave a nasty scar, but I'm hoping my balding doesn't come on too quickly and leave that one exposed. And finally, this morning, numerous deep bruises and scrapes are showing up from the bites that didn't quite break the skin. Dark bruising in the shape of claws, line across my lower back and butt where the bear stood on me. Also a few more chest bruises and facial abrasions from being smashed and slammed into the ground. Not my best day, but I'm alive. So thankful I'm here to share with all of you. In a couple weeks I will have to clean out the truck a little better. My girlfriend says it looks like I had gutted an elk in the drivers seat. Todd Orr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Blimey, don't think I would be so together and collected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted October 4, 2016 Report Share Posted October 4, 2016 Glad we live in England,are hand granades legal in the states that's the only way id go into the woods, wouldn't catch me spraying 400lb bear with deodorant and yelling hey bear ,must do special pants for hunters out there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 blimey that is one lucky dude. Being attacked by a bear must be one of the most scary things. Yes, I can't believe how lucky he was to have been attacked by a bear. Forget all this hype about .44 magnums and all that rubbish. All you need is a .22 pistol and one round. Bear attacks, you shoot your wife, girlfriend, best mate or whoever you are with in the kneecap with your .22 pistol and while they are writhing around in agony attracting the bear's attention you can casually amble off. Simples! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Yes, I can't believe how lucky he was to have been attacked by a bear. Forget all this hype about .44 magnums and all that rubbish. All you need is a .22 pistol and one round. Bear attacks, you shoot your wife, girlfriend, best mate or whoever you are with in the kneecap with your .22 pistol and while they are writhing around in agony attracting the bear's attention you can casually amble off. Simples! Do you have many friends Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted October 5, 2016 Report Share Posted October 5, 2016 Yes, I can't believe how lucky he was to have been attacked by a bear. Yeah I keep thinking that when I read this thread. Lucky to survive, yes. Generally lucky, not so much. Do you have many friends Not since his last trip to Alaska. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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