Nmb Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 I'm with the opening poster, edible quarry should not be discarded no matter for what the reason it was first shot. Dumping them is just abject laziness, there is always a game dealer who will take them.[/quot] + one +2 I understand the reasons behind dumping them however in the current anti shooting climate it doesn't sit easily with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 There are worse thing to been seen in hedgrows like old mattresses ect.They dont degrade and recycle into the ground like a few pigeons would.However a matteress would of been a welcoming sight ii any hedgrow i've wasted my day sitting in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Shoot it eat it if edible sell it give it away its possible to do something with it But don't chuck it in the bloody hedge Can I expect you to PM me your number then? You can have all ours for free. Breast them dice them up liquidise them into soup all sorts of wonderful things can be done If your intensions are to throw them away mm don't shoot em let them live They're vermin/pests. If the farmer asks us to shoot them then we'll shoot them. He isn't bothered what we do with them and neither are we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 ame="full choke" post="3162639" timestamp="1478702834"] +2 I understand the reasons behind dumping them however in the current anti shooting climate it doesn't sit easily with me. Then don't do it, it isn't compulsory, but that is no reason to criticise those who do things differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 So what about rats then,anybody tried to make a pie or eat a fox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ehb102 Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Has anyone tried giving away pigeon or rabbit through a food sharing app like Olio? I was under the impression that fox meat tastes awful but Philip Schofield ate some on Good Morning a while back and said it was gamey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) I may be wrong but i thought you cant pass meat into the food chain Free or Sell unless you have a licence of some sort.I know passing it on to a butcher or a game dealer gets you over this hurdle as they have the licence. Edited November 9, 2016 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savhmr Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 (edited) I may be wrong but i thought you cant pass meat into the food chain Free or Sell unless you have a licence of some sort.I know passing it on to a butcher or a game dealer gets you over this hurdle as they have the licence. You may, under certain circumstances (depending on numbers sold) need a food business registration, and in the case of some game, it has to be traceable in the food chain (deer for example) and signed off as fit for consumption, so a Large Game Trained Hunter certificate is needed (which is provided with DSC1). My understanding is that butchers also need a licence to accept birds in feather in order to dress game birds, otherwise they can only accept dressed birds...I may be wrong on this though as plenty sell pheasant braces in feather (I guess they're not dressed birds so that's the get out). Here's a useful resource which contains most of the relevant information: https://www.food.gov.uk/sites/default/files/multimedia/pdfs/wildgameguide0611.pdf Edited November 9, 2016 by Savhmr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieT Posted November 9, 2016 Report Share Posted November 9, 2016 Ye Gods, such topics really bring the holier than thou brigade out of the woodwork. I would suggest those taking the moral high ground get in touch with Scully and take up his kind offer, I'll courier mine to him so you can collect even more. Until then I'll continue to put them in the bin with the dead sheep, calves and poultry, unless of course people want those as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
belly47 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I don't really get threads like this. Not entirely sure of the purpose. Some people shoot for sport, some for vermin control, some for the table, some for all those reasons and others. If there is a legal and legitimate reason for the dispatch of the animal then what does it matter what an individual does and how does it affect other people? We are all different and fundamentally we may have a plethora of different views. I'm sure if everybody could economically (through both time and expense) have everything they shot recycled in some manner, they would wish this. Sometimes they can't. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger got stichs Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Ye Gods, such topics really bring the holier than thou brigade out of the woodwork. I would suggest those taking the moral high ground get in touch with Scully and take up his kind offer, I'll courier mine to him so you can collect even more. Until then I'll continue to put them in the bin with the dead sheep, calves and poultry, unless of course people want those as well. well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigger got stichs Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 The above says it all for me. me too I shoot them because the farmer has asked me to they then get left as fox bait so I can shoot them to and don't run the risk of hitting the chicken houses/geese/ducks so on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nmb Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Then don't do it, it isn't compulsory, but that is no reason to criticise those who do things differently. I'm not criticising. You are preaching to the converted on this forum. However I worry it provides ammunition to the anti shooting brigade. That is all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Everyone's got their own view on this and fair enough - I've got no comment on what people do with their birds and I'm happy with what I do with mine (pigeons are all eaten or given away, corvids are disposed of). I'm only posting to ask if anyone's actually thought about the "dumping them in a hedge" thing? I've shot the same field two days in a row on occasion and put the odd dead crow (with permission) into the hedge or ditch, out of the way of where any ramblers / riders would find them. Invariably when I come back and look the next day, the foxes or badgers have eaten them or taken them away elsewhere to do so. It's not as if they sit round rotting for three weeks with the number of critters out and about who'll take any free meal they can get... (Obviously if I shoot 10 or 20 or more, they go wherever I'm told to put them, or are taken, bagged and disposed of appropriately.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I'm not criticising. You are preaching to the converted on this forum. However I worry it provides ammunition to the anti shooting brigade. That is all With all respect I really couldn't care less what the antis shooting brigade think. While I'm killing for entertainment I doubt anything I do will endear me to them. I bear them no mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anser2 Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) Its not the anti shooting brigade we have to worry about , their minds are already made up, its the sit on the fence member of the public we need to keep neutrel. Dumping birds is likley to make them jump into the anti brigade hands and swelling the ranks of the antis is the last thing shooting needs. Edited November 10, 2016 by anser2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 As much as I agree with Scully on most things, I lean towards your view. Its not the anti shooting brigade we have to worry about , their minds are already made up, its the sit on the fence member of the public we need to keep neutrel. Dumping birds is likley to make them jump into the anti brigade hands and swelling the ranks of the antis is the last thing shooting needs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 While it would be unwise to leave anything in view of the general public, for members of the general public to find anything we leave would mean they were trespassing, but to be honest I still can't say I'm too bothered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigeonblasterian Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) I shoot pigeons because the farmers want them shot and i like doing it.They do not tell me to take them to a game dealer and not one farmer i shoot for are bothered if they end up in the bottom of the hedge.Something wil either eat the carcass or something will eat the maggots and something will eat the flies.I look upon it as recycling. Edited November 10, 2016 by pigeonblasterian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Some people consider Greylags as vermin here there are schemes to reduce their numbers, Iv'e met with a couple of people who leave the bird where it was shot as feed for the bop's etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davyo Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 (edited) If its not a boundry hedge then whats all the fuss about.Dont suppose anyone is numb enough to do that.As others have said they rot away and put goodness back into the soil.This respecting quarry business,i can understand this with fox and deer shooting.An experianced shot wouldnt take that shot unless they where sure of the kill.However decoying there is always going to be pricked birds.So if its respect thats the debate here then dont shoot them. Edited November 10, 2016 by Davyo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rim Fire Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 You are all NUMPTYS why are you all responding to a thread like this dont respond and it will go away JESUS give me strenth no wonder a lot of good shooters who used to put up post dont anymore including myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nagantino Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I kinda agree with Rim Fire but hey, it's a forum. I contacted a gamer dealer who told me they only take from established Estates. So what am I to do? Not shoot? It's all been said better than me here. I shoot them and take one or two. I PUT the rest into the hedges for the fox etc. I had a great Saturday shooting woodies and did this. The next day after mass I walked over the field to the said hedges........not a single one was left and hardly a feather either. It's all part of the great circle of life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocette Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 I'm not criticising. You are preaching to the converted on this forum. However I worry it provides ammunition to the anti shooting brigade. That is all Can they not just buy their own like the rest of us ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 10, 2016 Report Share Posted November 10, 2016 Can they not just buy their own like the rest of us ? That for my money put things into perspective. You can't beat a bit of humour to bring one to ones' senses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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