Trump

[Rewulf]

That might be because the income from his own businesses is significantly more than his presidential salary and he is not allowed to take two incomes .

 

No one throws away 400k a year unless they don't need it.

 

I think he will soon realise he will be pretty impotent and will not be able to deliver his manifesto to his voters. As long as May can take advantage of the political turmoil and uncertainty there at the moment however , for the good of our own finances I don't care if he's paid in hair dye.

 

I take it you dont actually know for certain if he is allowed both salaries ?

Maybe he doesnt need it ?

Maybe hes going to give it to charity ?

And no ,not like one of Clintons charities

I think people need to realise that no one person runs the US ,all this talk of nuclear codes and how he cant be trusted,because he gets a bit uppity on social media sometimes.

His opponents make it sound like he may wake up one day and think 'Mmm ,might vaporise Moscow this afternoon' and actually be able to do it!

 

I think its time the haters shut their mouths and got used to the idea, he not only had a landslide in seats,but the word is now he easily won the popular vote too, apparently Clinton conceded and they stopped counting.

Hillary says its all the FBIs fault for taking her 'momentum' away ,but the reality is ,her and the Democrats were that busy thinking how they were going to use their new found fortunes,they completely missed the mood of the American voters.

And that, plus calling a huge portion of your electorate 'deplorables' not only gave them a name and a banner, sealed her fate.

[UKPoacher]

As well as the salary the President gets allowances for entertainment, travel, etc and a pension of over $200K per annum when they retire. Obama makes more from book sales royalties than he gets salary. He also receives income on investments made prior to attaining office.

 

So yes, Trump could receive his investment income when in office and he probably doesn't need an extra $400K per year to keep him from the breadline. But when has that stopped many politicians from scrounging every cent they can from the system? In the news today our old friend Keith Vaz has reportedly filed a receipt for train travel that occurred when he was on official business abroad.

 

The fact that Trump will waive the salary will do him no harm. Couldn't see Clinton doing it.

[Adge Cutler]

 

I take it you dont actually know for certain if he is allowed both salaries ?

Maybe he doesnt need it ?

Maybe hes going to give it to charity ?

And no ,not like one of Clintons charities

I think people need to realise that no one person runs the US ,all this talk of nuclear codes and how he cant be trusted,because he gets a bit uppity on social media sometimes.

His opponents make it sound like he may wake up one day and think 'Mmm ,might vaporise Moscow this afternoon' and actually be able to do it!

 

I think its time the haters shut their mouths and got used to the idea, he not only had a landslide in seats,but the word is now he easily won the popular vote too, apparently Clinton conceded and they stopped counting.

Hillary says its all the FBIs fault for taking her 'momentum' away ,but the reality is ,her and the Democrats were that busy thinking how they were going to use their new found fortunes,they completely missed the mood of the American voters.

And that, plus calling a huge portion of your electorate 'deplorables' not only gave them a name and a banner, sealed her fate.

Yes that's why I used the word might and ?? for fear of someone asking for fully documented facts to back up my assumptions... I'm learning very quickly.

 

I also think May should seize the moment and get him over here asap. I think there's a lot of money to be made out of a strengthened UK/USA alliance . Strike why the irons hot !

 

I suspect his advisors have been very busy already and this is the first act of PR of many.

Edited November 13, 2016 by Adge Cutler

[digger]

He will wind his neck in rather rapidly. He's a megalomaniac and will use his first meeting with Putin as an ego boost. Putin will tie him up knots and Trump won't have a clue.

He's like the boxer on that rubbish advert - bouncing up and down looking smug but in six months he will be a lethargic dribbler doing what he is told to do.

[UKPoacher]

Yes that's why I used the word might and ?? for fear of someone asking for fully documented facts to back up my assumptions... I'm learning very quickly.

 

 

Perhaps then you could also learn not to make assumptions and innuendos to undermine somebody when you don't know the facts?

[achosenman]

He will wind his neck in rather rapidly. He's a megalomaniac and will use his first meeting with Putin as an ego boost. Putin will tie him up knots and Trump won't have a clue.

He's like the boxer on that rubbish advert - bouncing up and down looking smug but in six months he will be a lethargic dribbler doing what he is told to do.

 

I suspect he would eat you for lunch. You, like the entire democratic party and voters thereof, have woefully underestimated him and his team. I'm no fan, but one thing they teach on day one in the military is, "never underestimate your enemy"

 

Trump has been in and around big business his entire life. To survive you cannot be entirely stupid. He may be unpleasant, self absorbed etc. etc. but I think he may yet continue to astound and surprise. The political elite, the media, big business and left leaning luvies have lived in an echo chamber for decades. The shock of reality kicking the front door in is highly amusing. It beats the dross on TV...

[Fuji Shooter]

3 Million illegals will find out soon if he means business

[Vince Green]

It still seems "strange but true" that 74% of Americans are totally opposed to a government funded healthcare scheme. Yet apparently they really are, more than 50% of Americans have no healthcare provision at all but don't consider it a problem.

 

I know several of my American friends really can't get their heads around the concept of our NHS

[Adge Cutler]

 

Perhaps then you could also learn not to make assumptions and innuendos to undermine somebody when you don't know the facts?

Perhaps then you might be a bit more tolerant of people who don't share your political alliances. ?

Edited November 14, 2016 by Adge Cutler

[12gauge82]

It still seems "strange but true" that 74% of Americans are totally opposed to a government funded healthcare scheme. Yet apparently they really are, more than 50% of Americans have no healthcare provision at all but don't consider it a problem.

 

I know several of my American friends really can't get their heads around the concept of our NHS

Probably the working class who are opposed. If you think about it, I know I'd of paid much less tax over the years if I didn't have to pay for the old, people on benefits, drug abusers, the unfortunate etc. I am however a massive fan of the NHS and am happy to pay my taxes towards it, more in fact, that said it could do with a huge overhaul.

[SpringDon]

From Rachel Johnson (Boris's sister) - "his voters took him seriously, not literally, we (she includes the panel and liberals, elite, media etc.) took him literally, not seriously". This was a good observation as to why he won.

<snip>

 

I think that sums it up exactly. On one seems to take "other" politicians to task for promising to end poverty, ensure everyone goes to university and be tough on the causes of crime, even though they are realistically equally deranged as mr. Trump's rhetoric.

But I guess that's the "right" sort of rhetoric.

[Rewulf]

But I guess that's the "right" sort of rhetoric.

 

Right ,wrong ,left or indeed right,democratic process has been observed.

Its only wrong when its not your opinion.

If anyone can think of a better way of doing it ,lets hear it.

[Gordon R]

Rewulf - that is the point in a nutshell.

[Scully]

for gods sake give the guy a chance he has not even started the job yet it drives me mad people winging winging winging all of the time about everything I think a lot of you need to get a life go and shoot some birds clays or do some fishing or just go out for a long walk anything but sitting down writing this rubbish.

I seriously wish you would follow your own advice! Stop your incessant 'winging', bad grammar and complete lack of punctuation! Edited November 14, 2016 by Scully

[UKPoacher]

Perhaps then you might be a bit more tolerant of people who don't share your political alliances. ?

 

I am tolerant of all views. Except those that have no basis in fact or truth and are designed to undermine a person, policy or party purely to serve the underhand purposes of the person making those comments.

[Adge Cutler]

 

I am tolerant of all views. Except those that have no basis in fact or truth and are designed to undermine a person, policy or party purely to serve the underhand purposes of the person making those comments.

Fair enough I will remember that in future.

[oowee]

I still reckon the majority of the US electorate didn't vote for Trump.....they voted for political change........so they voted against the political establishment!

The majority of the electorate voted for Clinton.

About 2,000,000 more.

[mick miller]

That's skewed, densely populated areas like California bias the figures. The majority of States voted Trump.

[welsh1]

The majority of the electorate voted for Clinton.

About 2,000,000 more.

So.

It does not matter, they have a college system where states are assigned a number of votes,and these go to the candidate who wins the public vote in that state.

 

Trump got to the finish line first.that's their rules and he won playing by them.

 

 

It's like us UKIP supporters going on that we had 4 million votes at the last election,we may well have had them, but because of our voting system they mean very little.

[Vince Green]

Trumps coming over to me as a man who is having a bit of an "OH HECK WHAT HAVE I DONE?" moment

 

He ran a campaign talking mostly complete baloney playing to the Homer Simpson voters but all that's all got to change now.

 

Making promises, that's easy. Keeping them, that's a whole different matter.........

[old man]

America waking up to the reality of a president who's realised he can't deliver on the things that got him elected. And I thought he was a different kind of candidate...

 

Isn't that just par for the course, once in away they go to the nearest trough?

 

sorry for the hi jack.

[Vince Green]

I have said this before but I don't think people have understood the significance of what is being said. Trump won because huge amounts of anti Hilary lies (mostly lies) were being pumped out and then re-tweeted endlessly on social media. Pornographic stuff, things she is supposed to have done but hasn't. You couldn't put it on the TV or in the papers but social media is unregulated.

 

This all emanated from faceless sources in cyberspace but you would have to be neive not to have an opinion on who was behind it. Scarey stuff because it so clearly worked.

 

What was it superman said? "Truth, justice and the American way" not any more

[UKPoacher]

It doesn't take lies to make Clinton unelectable. The truth is bad enough.

 

People voted for Trump for the same reason people voted for Brexit; a new start after years of being ignored.

[Fuji Shooter]

The faceless source was Wikileaks who's founder Julian Assange will be Pardoned by Trump in the next few weeks. Probably just after Obama pardons Clinton so Trump can't get her.

[yod dropper]

I'm finding the coverage of his election unbelievable but totally believable, the general position is to ridicule and undermine Mr Trump rather than objective reporting of the facts. I generally have respect for BBC radio journalism though this is waning. I ought to rate the R4 'Today' flagship current affairs program but the 6 minute interview here shows lazy tabloid style journalism from the angle we are being constantly fed on this issue. Like the interviewee I'd have expected more. I like the way he fights back and puts Justin Webb in his place. From 1:09:12 to 1:15:26.

 

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b082j0n9