digger Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I saw on the news a white rhino has been shot and it's horn cut off with a chainsaw. Nothing unusual except this happened at a zoo in France. Very odd that they weren't heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Me matt Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Just seen it on the news... Mankind stoops to a new all time low 😕 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TaxiDriver Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 It's always beggared me that they can't/don't remove horns from Rhino in the wild in the name of preservation ? After all, they can dart them and tag them so why not trim the horn of whilst they're at it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al4x Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 What's the odds that it is someone who used to poach them in the wild who has "emigrated" to France. It's pretty unbelievable but we ship antiques and the chinkies seem to pay huge amounts for anything rhino horn. Despite it being nearly impossible to export they seem to find a fair few ways round it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Trouble is in the wild the poachers kill the dehorned ones so they don't have to waste time tracking one that has no cash return again. David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKPoacher Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 With the number of Africans in Paris these days it was only a matter of time. Their colonial history is biting them on the *****. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del.gue Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 It's always beggared me that they can't/don't remove horns from Rhino in the wild in the name of preservation ? After all, they can dart them and tag them so why not trim the horn of whilst they're at it ? I believe that they did try de horning a few rhino but some died of the shock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
islandgun Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 With the number of Africans in Paris these days it was only a matter of time. Their colonial history is biting them on the *****. With a price tag of £35.000 just about any piece of despicable scum with a gun and a chain saw could be tempted, its the ####wits who buy the horn who should also be brought to justice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 Is it unrealistic to farm rhino for the horn where it could be harvested safely, flood the market and devalue the horn therefore making the poachers redundant? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted March 7, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 I believe it's been trialled in Africa but demand exceeds supply. They also tried dying the horns to no avail. I can't get my head around a corpulent far eastern man with a flaccid member thinking "viagra? Mm maybe rhino horn" I don't blame the poachers, it's supply and demand. Someone gets rich, a fatty with a floppy believes in whitch craft and another species teeters on the brink. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winston72 Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 (edited) Different people think differently,if i couldnt get a woody , i think id get a new partner😂 Edited March 7, 2017 by Winston72 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I'm surprised they cant grow fake horn in a lab these days flood the market with that hopefully giving the rhinos a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Inside job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) It's the buying source that needs sorting by a combination of education and very heavy fines, I do find it very odd though because it can't be easy breaking into a zoo enclosure carrying a gun and hope not to be caught red handed or on CCTV and £35k is hardly enough reward given that risk. Edited March 8, 2017 by Hamster Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mentalmac Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 It's the buying source that needs sorting by a combination of education and very heavy fines, I do find it very odd though because it can't be easy breaking into a zoo enclosure carrying a gun and hope not to be caught red handed or on CCTV and £35k is hardly enough reward given that risk. Maybe the perpetrators can't get a woody so rather than pay the extortionate amount, they thought they'd take it for free? Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
walshie Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 It's the buying source that needs sorting by a combination of education and very heavy fines, I do find it very odd though because it can't be easy breaking into a zoo enclosure carrying a gun and hope not to be caught red handed or on CCTV and £35k is hardly enough reward given that risk. I'd have thought breaking into a zoo would be quite easy as they are designed to be hard to get out of, not into. Agreed it seems odd that no-one heard the shots or a chainsaw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchell Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 It's always beggared me that they can't/don't remove horns from Rhino in the wild in the name of preservation ? After all, they can dart them and tag them so why not trim the horn of whilst they're at it ? They have done this in the past, the horn grows back and they have to redo the process. The concoction they use to knock it down will damage the health of the animal if keep on doing it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garygreengrass Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Just seen it on the news... Mankind stoops to a new all time low I just hope they catch them, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scotslad Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 They have done this in the past, the horn grows back and they have to redo the process. The concoction they use to knock it down will damage the health of the animal if keep on doing it. Did they not also place radio/gps trackers inside some of the horn too and sealed it back up. Sure i seen a nature program where they cut a large chunk off and then bored into the rest to put a tracker in. I can't see any normal round this problem and with more and more far eastern money invested in africa the poaching problem that was declining is going to go throu the roof, and many of these folk that buy the end product would happily buty the horn of the very last rhino and be proud of it. Wot i'd love to do is when they find a find a stash of rhino horn (or other poached product) either posion it and put it back in the container see how they like that!! Or a slightly less extreme method contaminate it with something the exact oppisate of wots its meant to do, so if rhino horn gives u the horn mix it up with oestrogen? or some female hormone. U'll never ever educate them so try and knacker/contaminate the supply lines rather than actually cutting them off and try to knoacker the end market. The only other way would be to have rhino farms or encourage locals to encourage/manage them but also sell the hunt as a trophy hunt and then siphon all the money back into conservation and proper gps/satelite tracking on as many rhino's as possible and have shed loads of anti poaching patrols shooting poachers on sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchell Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Did they not also place radio/gps trackers inside some of the horn too and sealed it back up. Sure i seen a nature program where they cut a large chunk off and then bored into the rest to put a tracker in. I can't see any normal round this problem and with more and more far eastern money invested in africa the poaching problem that was declining is going to go throu the roof, and many of these folk that buy the end product would happily buty the horn of the very last rhino and be proud of it. Wot i'd love to do is when they find a find a stash of rhino horn (or other poached product) either posion it and put it back in the container see how they like that!! Or a slightly less extreme method contaminate it with something the exact oppisate of wots its meant to do, so if rhino horn gives u the horn mix it up with oestrogen? or some female hormone. U'll never ever educate them so try and knacker/contaminate the supply lines rather than actually cutting them off and try to knoacker the end market. The only other way would be to have rhino farms or encourage locals to encourage/manage them but also sell the hunt as a trophy hunt and then siphon all the money back into conservation and proper gps/satelite tracking on as many rhino's as possible and have shed loads of anti poaching patrols shooting poachers on sight. Correct, they did try and hide gps trackers inside the horn, one guy even commented and said "the shavings you see here are worth more than my months salary" Coming from South Africa and an area close to the Kruger Park I have seen a massive increase in anti poaching activities. It is becoming an all out war as the anti poaching groups are fired upon on sight by the poachers(AK 47's) When I was younger I also did an anti poaching course with Protrack in a town called Hoetspriut and you will be amazed at the ingenuity of the poachers!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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