Davyo Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Here's a topic where I think most will agree on, the shocking state of our roads, they really are awful, where I live you have to navigate potholes and the only way to completely avoid them, would be to drive on the wrong side of the road. We were supposed to be in austerity but the council round my way found £5 million to stick a retractable roof on the swimming pool to copy Wimbledon. We have neglected our infrastructure in preference to deadbeat social costs and causes, we have a £1.7 trillion debt and the roads are bust. I asked the council if I could fix a few down my road free of charge, just clear out the hole, whack some hardcore in, and tarmac it over just to protect my suspension and tyres, but they wouldn't entertain it. We have not been governed correctly for many, many years. Its not funny anymore............. Had a pot hole in our street & you couldn't avoid hitting it if a car was parked opposite it.I phoned the council every week for about 5 weeks. Not a repair in sight,then a mate said "get your lass to phone and say someone has just fell over on it and it taking pictures of the hole with their mobile" They were out filling it with 2hrs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Yes the roads are awful. However a group of untrained people wandering around with a shovel, half a bag of cold lay and one person who professes to have knowledge of highway repair may not be the answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
winnie&bezza Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) Yep, I hit a pothole which burst my tyre last weekend. Is it worth claiming? Measured it at 90mm deep. Edited April 4, 2017 by winnie&bezza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuffy Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 Yes the roads are awful. However a group of untrained people wandering around with a shovel, half a bag of cold lay and one person who professes to have knowledge of highway repair may not be the answer Is that not what the council send out ? I've seen them stamping on the cold lay - with a wacker on the back of the truck . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandringstar Posted April 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 its possibly the easiest job in the world. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peck Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 The thing that gets me is that they repair the pothole and a week or two later it needs doing again. Just dropping some tarmack in the pothole and gong over it with a whacker plate does not solve the problem, Years ago they used to use one of those tamper things, a lump of iron on a handle, they would spread the black stuff over the pothole and then thump it into the hole which would fill in all the crevises and the repair would be good for years, these days with just using the whacker plate it does not fill all the voids, water gets in a away we go pothole open again in a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandringstar Posted April 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 maybe a dentist would be good at potholes, my pothole was filled 30 years ago and is like new Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digger Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 What's the correct way to repair a pot hole ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vampire Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 oh don't you worry velocette, I have the skills and knowledge to fill a pothole professionally, you see, I was just throwing ideas around, you always will get the naysayers, anything can be achieved if the will is there, ok, you are the only one in the country who thinks the roads are not dreadful, I concede. Would like that to be done in our village, i like you would be on the work party,plus then sort out the floods through the ditches not being dug out,then move onto the idiots who let traffic lights and road closures with out consulting or having a proper plan in place,sending hgv through tiny back lanes churning up the banks,madness. What's the correct way to repair a pot hole ? By not getting the council to do it ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted April 4, 2017 Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 (edited) I have noticed the big idea now, particularly about now when councils need to get rid of any left over money, is to lay new tarmac down a stretch of country lane but make no effort to build up and reinforce the verge on either side. They did the approach road to our village and a young lass had to pull over to allow 'white van man' to howl by and dropped her front wheel over the six inch edge and flipped into the ditch. Very shaken but fortunately not hurt. I see they have now done the same down another narrow lane and again made no effort to build up the verge. I am surprised the 'no win-no fee' brigade have not jumped on this and started putting in claims against councils for wheel damage, loss of income due to late arrivals etc etc. They seem to be hand in hand with the yellow spray pain manufacturers. Edited April 4, 2017 by Walker570 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wandringstar Posted April 4, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 4, 2017 cut it into a neat square, clean out the hole, make sure you have the correct thickness of mot, dig down more if not, fill it up to the right level, whack it down mechanically, apply correct thickness of tarmac, roll accordingly and seal edges, replicate 50 million times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamster Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 You could probably buy 10 of these for every bomb dropped on a desert patch somewhere and the good news is you wouldn't necessarily even have to close off the road most of the time as they're single man operation and no bigger than a large transit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 cut it into a neat square, clean out the hole, make sure you have the correct thickness of mot, dig down more if not, fill it up to the right level, whack it down mechanically, apply correct thickness of tarmac, roll accordingly and seal edges, replicate 50 million times. cut it into a neat square, clean out the hole, make sure you have the correct thickness of mot, dig down more if not, fill it up to the right level, whack it down mechanically, apply correct thickness of tarmac, roll accordingly and seal edges, replicate 50 million times. 50 million times, and the rest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Other side of the scale they patch and patch and its a total resurface they need Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Other side of the scale they patch and patch and its a total resurface they need Absolutely correct. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 There is a road near me that looked like a patchwork quilt, the next thing they had advance warnings of road closure. I said to the wife and I was correct, Tar spray and chippings, covers a multitude of sins and its cheap and cheerful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocette Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 The surface dressing you describe is done for two reasons. First as a sealing coat to prevent water penetration and hence damage,,,the second is to restore the grip level to an accepted standard. The "patchwork" of repairs is probably "pre-patching" which is done to give a reasonably level top for the surface dressing to adhere to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
subsonicnat Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 I Have a Whacker,!,,,Anybody got any Hot Tarmak.?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 They have started to use the tar and chipping method down this way also, I personally have a gross dislike for it. It increases the camber of the road it leaves the ironwork below the level of the surface and it is noisy, in addition to this the cost to the motorist is increased with tyres wearing quicker and devaluation of your car due to an increase in stone chip damage to your paintwork. Also I feel it is bad for the environment as the increase in rubber dust from the tyres must be a bad thing and then the pollution increase in the manufacture of the tyre in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Velocette Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Where to start,,,the chip is usually 6mm and is spread evenly over the surface,,so the camber is exactly as it was before. The increased depth of ironwork is the same,,6mm,,which is negligible in the scheme of things. If it gets too deep then the gully or manhole has to be relaid. The tyre wear is a consequence of having a surface with a safe coefficient of friction,,,,its grippier . As for rubber dust being significantly bad for the environment,,,I'd rather be safe, but would be interested in seeing the supporting data for your claim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la bala Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 The surface dressing you describe is done for two reasons. First as a sealing coat to prevent water penetration and hence damage,,,the second is to restore the grip level to an accepted standard. The "patchwork" of repairs is probably "pre-patching" which is done to give a reasonably level top for the surface dressing to adhere to. Well i will repeat my post in short, it was a cheap fix. And thats from an old geezer who has spent close on the last 50 years building roads and motorways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 On a motorbike no matter how slow you go it's like riding on marbles. It should be banned. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 Auntie - totally agree. I believe it is actually dangerous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
100milesaway Posted April 5, 2017 Report Share Posted April 5, 2017 IT is exceedingly dangerous, up here in the Dales we sometimes get 15 miles of chippings down and end up having 50 mile detours to avoid them. A week goes by and all the chippings have been pushed kerbside and into the centre of the road by the heavy lorries leaving a very slippy shiny surface for us bikers to negotiate. Rock and a hard spot spring to mind. from Auntie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krugerandsmith Posted April 6, 2017 Report Share Posted April 6, 2017 Where to start,,,the chip is usually 6mm and is spread evenly over the surface,,so the camber is exactly as it was before. The increased depth of ironwork is the same,,6mm,,which is negligible in the scheme of things. If it gets too deep then the gully or manhole has to be relaid. The tyre wear is a consequence of having a surface with a safe coefficient of friction,,,,its grippier . As for rubber dust being significantly bad for the environment,,,I'd rather be safe, but would be interested in seeing the supporting data for your claim. Most of the chippings end up in the gutter. If its so good why don't they use this surface down the mall up to the palace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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