Out of control dogs

[ElvisThePelvis]

What is the deal with dogs that attack humans? My understanding was that they were turned into fertiliser / burgers at a Korean restaurant, although there have been a couple of incidents in our village and the dogs are still being walked..

[saddler]

No idea.

Collie a few doors down hss bitten several people including the girlfriend.

No further action taken by the police or council.

[Archie-fox]

some dogs are just out of control as are there owners..

[ElvisThePelvis]

No idea.

Collie a few doors down hss bitten several people including the girlfriend.

No further action taken by the police or council.

 

I don't get it, there is a weinerama (sp?) and a German Shepherd both of which have attacked people more than once recently yet they are still allowed out in public, seems odd to me..

[subsonicnat]

Yes,But if people do not report it,,it doesn't excist..

So no action taken..??.

[ElvisThePelvis]

Yes,But if people do not report it,,it doesn't excist. .

So no action taken..??.

 

It was reported, police arrived in van but dogs still free running... Which leads me on to another question, hypothetically if you were attacked by out of control dogs when out shooting and couldn't fend them off and to protect yourself you fire a warning shot that missed thin air and killed the dog, what would happen?

[saddler]

It was reported, police arrived in van but dogs still free running... Which leads me on to another question, hypothetically if you were attacked by out of control dogs when out shooting and couldn't fend them off and to protect yourself you fire a warning shot that missed thin air and killed the dog, what would happen?

...the dog would fall over?

[Lloyd90]

 

It was reported, police arrived in van but dogs still free running... Which leads me on to another question, hypothetically if you were attacked by out of control dogs when out shooting and couldn't fend them off and to protect yourself you fire a warning shot that missed thin air and killed the dog, what would happen?

Your "warning shot" hit the dog? Firstly you should hand your SGC in for public protection if your that bad a shot.

[CharlieT]

 

It was reported, police arrived in van but dogs still free running... Which leads me on to another question, hypothetically if you were attacked by out of control dogs when out shooting and couldn't fend them off and to protect yourself you fire a warning shot that missed thin air and killed the dog, what would happen?

 

You would then have to defend yourself in court, demonstrate that the dog had injured you and prove beyond reasonable doubt that your actions were necessary and reasonable.

 

I would suggest that if you were being attacked by out of control dogs the last thing you would have time to do is fire a warning shot.

[Prospero]

...the dog would fall over?

 

And your gun would make quite a loud "bang".

[tx4cabbie]

Chap told me to keep my well behaved cocker spaniel away from his terrier as "..he'll have her, he'll go for her".

 

He didn't like it when I said that if his dog attacked mine unprovoked I would kill his dog . As far as I know I'm allowed I can use force to protect my property, and whilst our pup is family, she's legally property.

Keep hearing stories about people letting their "harmless fluffy pride and joy" bite other people and dogs, and just get away with it. Not willing to let my spaniel suffer for their carelessness.

[Scully]

 

It was reported, police arrived in van but dogs still free running... Which leads me on to another question, hypothetically if you were attacked by out of control dogs when out shooting and couldn't fend them off and to protect yourself you fire a warning shot that missed thin air and killed the dog, what would happen?

 

Ye gods.....do we have to go down this route?

If the dogs are 'free running' in a public place when in fact they should be on a lead, then report it to your local cop shop. If no joy then keep reporting it until something is done. Become a pain in the rear.

Start a media campaign for muzzling all dogs in public. Either way must be more productive than reporting it on here, surely?

[yod dropper]

Chap told me to keep my well behaved cocker spaniel away from his terrier as "..he'll have her, he'll go for her".

 

He didn't like it when I said that if his dog attacked mine unprovoked I would kill his dog . As far as I know I'm allowed I can use force to protect my property, and whilst our pup is family, she's legally property.

Keep hearing stories about people letting their "harmless fluffy pride and joy" bite other people and dogs, and just get away with it. Not willing to let my spaniel suffer for their carelessness.

 

I'm with the other owner, why do you think your dog should be allowed to bother his? - and then secondly, he pay the consequences?

 

I hear plenty of stories of 'harmless fluffy pride and joy' who 'only want to play' without considering if the other person wants their dog (and property) to play or interact with this other dog that they know nothing about.

 

I'll add - so long as his dog was on a lead or he was keeping out the way.

Edited May 18, 2017 by yod dropper

[Duckandswing]

If a dog bit me, it wouldn't be doing it again.

 

My whippet has a tendency to go head long into other dogs in his exuberance (not in a threatening manner) and he's been bit before. Since that first time he's on a lead unless in an open and dog free space. He is also muzzled in public because if he slips his lead he would decimate any small furry animals in sight, including cats.

 

I often get people telling me that muzzling him is cruel but it's for the greater good.

[wandringstar]

I know a lot of people on here have dogs and you are all probably decent owners, but my experience is not good in any way, I live in a village and owning a dog is an obsession with many, they all like to think they are great owners, but they are not, they pick up only when people are watching, dogs mess and bags chucked over the verges, they arrogantly walk them off lead, they have them jumping all over people, they leave them barking in gardens all day and late at night, I have zero time for it and the u.k has 8 million now as pets, as my dad used to say, when people buy a dog, they lose their brain.

 

I go in the local pub the other night and one slob owner is chucking his bags of crisps, another is asleep on the floor dropping its guts stinking the place out.

 

I go on holiday and a chav owner is letting his run around the pub knocking drinks over.

 

I go into buildbase today and a dog is behind the counter (not serving) lol.

[TaxiDriver]

What is the deal with dogs that attack humans? My understanding was that they were turned into fertiliser / burgers at a Korean restaurant, although there have been a couple of incidents in our village and the dogs are still being walked..

Have read my post about fostering a spaniel ?

That one had attacked the owners wife, attacked another couple twice in 6 hours, then two days later attacked my wife and myself unexpectedly and despite all our protestations has or is being, returned to Spaniel Aid

[TaxiDriver]

No idea.

Collie a few doors down hss bitten several people including the girlfriend.

No further action taken by the police or council.

As my wife and I found out recently,

If a dog you own or are in control of/looking after bites you, in or on your own property then it's apparently not a Police matter.

Edited May 18, 2017 by TaxiDriver

[Mackenzie]

Last time something went for my dog that was on the lead it's got a swift kick to the head and it didn't come back for a second go. Even if I had my gun on me I'd ward an attacking dog off with a swift use of the mark 1 boot but with that said if I had something that looked like it could do some real damage coming at me I wouldn't be firing warning shots.

[Lloyd90]

Chap told me to keep my well behaved cocker spaniel away from his terrier as "..he'll have her, he'll go for her".

 

He didn't like it when I said that if his dog attacked mine unprovoked I would kill his dog . As far as I know I'm allowed I can use force to protect my property, and whilst our pup is family, she's legally property.

Keep hearing stories about people letting their "harmless fluffy pride and joy" bite other people and dogs, and just get away with it. Not willing to let my spaniel suffer for their carelessness.

Was his dog on a lead? Was yours? Sounds like he was being polite and letting you know his dog isn't dog friendly.

 

Your response makes you sound like a right idiot 🤦‍♂️ "Thanks for the warning, ifnit happens ill kill your dog"

[wandringstar]

the more I hear about people and their dogs, the more I like my old rabbit. I just don't get the attraction I am afraid.

[tx4cabbie]

His dog wasn't on lead. mine wasn't on lead as had been running after the tennis ball, but his came barreling across the park, mine came tearing back to me with her tail between her legs and her eyes wide in terror, dodged behind my leg, and his went for mine with teeth showing.

 

I stretched my arms out, and shouted that time honoured east end exclamation "gertcha!", and the terrier backed off a bit, which is when he , instead of getting his dog under control, suggested that it would harm mine as though it was something that had happened before.

I couldn't readily see a collar on his as the hair was quite long, and didnt fancy being bitten trying to keep an attacking dog from hurting my wee spaniel, so thought I'd give him a warning he wouldn't ignore and spur him into getting involved. He wasn't warning me, he was being a boastful wotsit, "look at my hard dog" and I'm not usually aggressive or short tempered, but my dog's a total wuss, she's all cuddles and love, and whilst yes I'm biased, she's NEVER responded with teeth and growls to any other dog or human. Being told that when she's retreated, and isn't showing Aggression, she'll still be injured.... no thanks.

[Gordon R]

Both should have been on a lead, then this would not have happened.

[Lloyd90]

His dog wasn't on lead. mine wasn't on lead as had been running after the tennis ball, but his came barreling across the park, mine came tearing back to me with her tail between her legs and her eyes wide in terror, dodged behind my leg, and his went for mine with teeth showing.

 

I stretched my arms out, and shouted that time honoured east end exclamation "gertcha!", and the terrier backed off a bit, which is when he , instead of getting his dog under control, suggested that it would harm mine as though it was something that had happened before.

I couldn't readily see a collar on his as the hair was quite long, and didnt fancy being bitten trying to keep an attacking dog from hurting my wee spaniel, so thought I'd give him a warning he wouldn't ignore and spur him into getting involved. He wasn't warning me, he was being a boastful wotsit, "look at my hard dog" and I'm not usually aggressive or short tempered, but my dog's a total wuss, she's all cuddles and love, and whilst yes I'm biased, she's NEVER responded with teeth and growls to any other dog or human. Being told that when she's retreated, and isn't showing Aggression, she'll still be injured.... no thanks.

I'm try to post the gif off Anchorman where he picks up the guy's dog and gives him a swift boot over the fence 😂 Could have done with that for that fella, with him swiftly following the dog!

Edited May 18, 2017 by Lloyd90

[tx4cabbie]

I'm pretty much live and let live, try to practise a non religious version of ".. do unto others..." etc, but my Maria and I haven't managed to have kids yet, so that spaniel gets all the love, and if anything happened to her, my wife would kill me, then the terrier owner, then just cut a swathe of carnage through the local area.

 

Figured a little threat would save a lot of lives!

[manthing]

A few years ago I was walking my Patterdale and ESS and noticed a young couple walking some kind of cross Staffy off it lead, so I put mine on theirs and carried on.

Now my terrier isn't backwards in going forwards if another dog tries the old "I'm the bigger dog so I'm the boss" routine, which is why they went back on their leads.

The cross Staffy comes bounding over from about 5m away all teath and noise and makes a B line for the spaniel who's as soft as a soft thing gift wrapped in supersoft bog roll. Terriers back went up and he went forward a step, spaniel hid behind me and the blokes just realised his fogs getting it very wrong.

Staffy gets about a meter away and in me deepest, nastiest and loudest voice i bellowed right in its face "NO, BACK UP NOW". And begger me if it dint take a step back in astonishment, the look on its face was a picture. Just long enough for the bloke to get it back on its lead, he says how sorry he is and says "where did that voice come from, how do you do that"?

"It's my boss dog voice, because some ones got to be the boss and it should never be the dogs". Meantime my dogs are both sat at heel waiting because they know that voice, seldom used but effective.