Eyefor Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) ..is this (something) like we need in the UK (please)? NOT the Limp Damps - but a new middle of the road of (sensible) party that is up to date and eliminates the ancient and polarised bitching of Tories and Labour. Who to lead it.. David Milliband? From the BBC French President Emmanuel Macron's party has won a clear parliamentary majority, results show, weeks after his own presidential victory. With nearly all votes counted, his La République en Marche, alongside its MoDem allies, won more than 300 seats in the 577-seat National Assembly. The winning margin is lower than some expected, with turnout down from 2012. The party was formed just over a year ago, and half of its candidates have little or no political experience. The result has swept aside all of the mainstream parties and gives the 39-year-old president a strong mandate in parliament to pursue his pro-EU, business-friendly reform plans. Edited June 19, 2017 by Eyefor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Interesting, as long as it is NOT lead by David Millibland, I look forward to the Eyefor party forming and sorting this country out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yellow Bear Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 The limp damps have not been a centerist party for many years in fact until comrade JC took over they were to the left of the Liebour party and trying to outgreen the greens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 lets just see what he does............he has a chequered history...swinging from capitalism to socialism...then" middleism "............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefor Posted June 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Interesting, as long as it is NOT lead by David Millibland, I look forward to the Eyefor party forming and sorting this country out! I fear some of my policies, though (potentially) swift, would be too radical for some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Come on then let's have a manifesto from you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefor Posted June 19, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Come on then let's have a manifesto from you. OK. A few points to start - No income tax on 1st £20K then one flat rate of Income Tax thereafter (India did something similar and trebled their tax income). - £10 for missed Doctors / NHS appointments - Voting age raise to 25 - Voting Compulsory with a "none of the above" option. - cancel postal and proxy voting systems - instigate vote online / by smartphone system - NHS premises not to be used for private appointments. - No VAT on new car tax (a tax on a tax is supposed to be illegal?). - Education (including transport) free up to 18. Thereafter pay your own way (student loans to continue). - Cancel HS2 - Cancel Heathrow extension, build Boris Island. - Cancel NHS "budgeting"(how do you budget when you have no idea of future expense?). Control NHS much better using people with proven & relevant management experience. -. Non UK citizens to prepay or guarantee NHS costs incurred for them. - Cancel operating licences of Google, Apple, Microsoft, Starbucks etc until last 6 years tax payments audited and ongoing tax approved. I'm liking this. I might apply !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 You get my vote! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 You get my vote! ohh you are easily pleased...you old softy .....sorry i cant type my manifesto....it would involve sex therapy on the NHS...filling in the channel tunnel...etc... i better go now before i get carried away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 ohh you are easily pleased...you old softy .....sorry i cant type my manifesto....it would involve sex therapy on the NHS...filling in the channel tunnel...etc... i better go now before i get carried away Are the two connected? Therapy is available! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalahari Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 ohh you are easily pleased...you old softy .....sorry i cant type my manifesto....it would involve sex therapy on the NHS...filling in the channel tunnel...etc... i better go now before i get carried away Aren't these the same thing?????? David. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 I didn't realise Macron was so young! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Are the two connected? Therapy is available! not the sort i want.. I didn't realise Macron was so young! yeah ...he is marrided to his granny............. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mel b3 Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 OK. A few points to start - No income tax on 1st £20K then one flat rate of Income Tax thereafter (India did something similar and trebled their tax income). - £10 for missed Doctors / NHS appointments - Voting age raise to 25 - Voting Compulsory with a "none of the above" option. - cancel postal and proxy voting systems - instigate vote online / by smartphone system - NHS premises not to be used for private appointments. - No VAT on new car tax (a tax on a tax is supposed to be illegal?). - Education (including transport) free up to 18. Thereafter pay your own way (student loans to continue). - Cancel HS2 - Cancel Heathrow extension, build Boris Island. - Cancel NHS "budgeting"(how do you budget when you have no idea of future expense?). Control NHS much better using people with proven & relevant management experience. -. Non UK citizens to prepay or guarantee NHS costs incurred for them. - Cancel operating licences of Google, Apple, Microsoft, Starbucks etc until last 6 years tax payments audited and ongoing tax approved. I'm liking this. I might apply !! Im definitely being swayed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 (edited) yeah ...he is marrided to his granny............. Is that a NORFOLK word? Edited June 19, 2017 by TIGHTCHOKE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 19, 2017 Report Share Posted June 19, 2017 Is that a NORFOLK word? NFN.................. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 OK. A few points to start - No income tax on 1st £20K then one flat rate of Income Tax thereafter (India did something similar and trebled their tax income). - £10 for missed Doctors / NHS appointments - Voting age raise to 25 - Voting Compulsory with a "none of the above" option. - cancel postal and proxy voting systems - instigate vote online / by smartphone system - NHS premises not to be used for private appointments. - No VAT on new car tax (a tax on a tax is supposed to be illegal?). - Education (including transport) free up to 18. Thereafter pay your own way (student loans to continue). - Cancel HS2 - Cancel Heathrow extension, build Boris Island. - Cancel NHS "budgeting"(how do you budget when you have no idea of future expense?). Control NHS much better using people with proven & relevant management experience. -. Non UK citizens to prepay or guarantee NHS costs incurred for them. - Cancel operating licences of Google, Apple, Microsoft, Starbucks etc until last 6 years tax payments audited and ongoing tax approved. I'm liking this. I might apply !! Couldn't agree with an unlimited nhs budget, I do like your sentiments though, but I believe that would open up the NHS for massive corruption. I do think with a little thought the problem could be overcome. Add into there new laws and big fines for 'false' news, and biased coverage. And Remove public funding for the BBC and you have my vote too 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eyefor Posted June 20, 2017 Author Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 Couldn't agree with an unlimited nhs budget, I do like your sentiments though, but I believe that would open up the NHS for massive corruption. I do think with a little thought the problem could be overcome. Add into there new laws and big fines for 'false' news, and biased coverage. And Remove public funding for the BBC and you have my vote too I agree the NHS problem won't be fixed by cash only. (is that my first U turn?) Definitely remove funding for the BBC - and insist they fire Laura Kronenburg (something like that ennit?). Just honing the other manifesto points - Ban inheritance tax (someone has already paid tax on it to create it?). - No benefits if you can't apply for them in English after 3 years here. - No cash benefits. Only vouchers. Shopkeepers swapping vouchers for non food / non essential items, jailed - Speed limit on motorways 90mph. Caught doing 100+ licence lost one week. second time licence lost 1 month. Third time licence lost 1 year. - Compulsory driving re-test at 70 years old, then every 3 years to 79 and then annually. - Allow shale gas drilling - Allow right to defend. - People parking in disabled parking spaces without a badge - car crushed. Am I getting the hang of this? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
four-wheel-drive Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I thought they said that the guy worked for a big bank before this so going by the way that our banks have been run France is in for some fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thunderbird Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 What about the "gloves off' party? The one that has an unspecified solution to all our problems? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
das Posted June 20, 2017 Report Share Posted June 20, 2017 I agree the NHS problem won't be fixed by cash only. (is that my first U turn?) Definitely remove funding for the BBC - and insist they fire Laura Kronenburg (something like that ennit?). Just honing the other manifesto points - Ban inheritance tax (someone has already paid tax on it to create it?). - No benefits if you can't apply for them in English after 3 years here. - No cash benefits. Only vouchers. Shopkeepers swapping vouchers for non food / non essential items, jailed - Speed limit on motorways 90mph. Caught doing 100+ licence lost one week. second time licence lost 1 month. Third time licence lost 1 year. - Compulsory driving re-test at 70 years old, then every 3 years to 79 and then annually. - Allow shale gas drilling - Allow right to defend. - People parking in disabled parking spaces without a badge - car crushed. Am I getting the hang of this? You won't get my vote on your driving test thing. 1. We would'nt get enough testers. 2. Nobody could afford it. 3. We ought to look more at the under 25 women, a lot of whom must have got their licence in a raffle. 4.. the under 25 male Joe Cools who think their junk old Astra can blow off a Porsche 911. 5. Finally, I'm ******* getting there myself. It won't really matter though as soon you won't be able to get a car on the road there won't be any room? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted June 21, 2017 Report Share Posted June 21, 2017 (edited) Macron's party is really just the old Socialist Party rebranded. Nothing new except the name https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/04/real-winner-frances-presidential-election-francois-hollande/ Edited June 21, 2017 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buze Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Whats going to happen in france. 1) "We want CHANGE, we want REFORMS, we can't CONTINUE like that, bring in Young Mr Macro who promises ALL OF THAT, this is going to be SO NICE" 2) ... next comes the reform proposals and... 3) "Hold on, when we meant CHANGE we meant, CHANGE THEM, yeah, THEM not ME! I'm fine really. Don't change ME, what's going on here!?!" 4) ...General strike comes september. Seriously, it's been like that for 40 years. Do you think Hollande wanted to be the dreadful president he is now tagged with? He ALSO had REFORMS and CHANGE in his slogan, and for all we know, he wanted to do it too. Same as Sarkosi -- a swine, true enough, but he had CHANGE planned too. Heck, back to Miterrand, and the slogan was even "Le Changement" -- guess what? Unemployment is still bonkers, and there haven't been any reforms to speak of -- just bandaids, then watered down bandaids paid by.... extra new taxes, all the while the civil servant caste continues trucking happily, being paid more as they get older, with extra bonuses for nothing at all -- all the while private sector and youngster can't get hired because it became so bleeping expensive to actually *fund* an employee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul223 Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 Whats going to happen in france. 1) "We want CHANGE, we want REFORMS, we can't CONTINUE like that, bring in Young Mr Macro who promises ALL OF THAT, this is going to be SO NICE" 2) ... next comes the reform proposals and... 3) "Hold on, when we meant CHANGE we meant, CHANGE THEM, yeah, THEM not ME! I'm fine really. Don't change ME, what's going on here!?!" 4) ...General strike comes september. Seriously, it's been like that for 40 years. Do you think Hollande wanted to be the dreadful president he is now tagged with? He ALSO had REFORMS and CHANGE in his slogan, and for all we know, he wanted to do it too. Same as Sarkosi -- a swine, true enough, but he had CHANGE planned too. Heck, back to Miterrand, and the slogan was even "Le Changement" -- guess what? Unemployment is still bonkers, and there haven't been any reforms to speak of -- just bandaids, then watered down bandaids paid by.... extra new taxes, all the while the civil servant caste continues trucking happily, being paid more as they get older, with extra bonuses for nothing at all -- all the while private sector and youngster can't get hired because it became so bleeping expensive to actually *fund* an employee. Sounds like a left wing agenda working fantastically as per usual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted June 22, 2017 Report Share Posted June 22, 2017 sure as hell he wont be introducing a granny tax, cos' of his old lady......... thought it was bad enuff when that young lad married Edith Piaff..........(a few regrets there , i bet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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