archi Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Now in the shops Sound a bargain at £370/k😂😂 Packaging and shells look nice but ouch to the ££ So who is going to get some to try in the pigeons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Now in the shops Sound a bargain at £370/k Packaging and shells look nice but ouch to the ££ So who is going to get some to try in the pigeons Nobody in their right minds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motty Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Grouse extreme? A cheap old ounce of 7 would do me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I guess if you are spending £125 per brace then falling for the latest copper coated/uranium tipped/pretty pictures of grouse in far away hills fits in........sat in a sodden hide with 1 leg gradually sinking into the brambles as I realise I have'nt charged my flapper battery in a damp Sussex hedge I'm not thinking tweed and high branding needed in my cartridge bag!!........ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I guess if you are spending £125 per brace then falling for the latest copper coated/uranium tipped/pretty pictures of grouse in far away hills fits in........sat in a sodden hide with 1 leg gradually sinking into the brambles as I realise I have'nt charged my flapper battery in a damp Sussex hedge I'm not thinking tweed and high branding needed in my cartridge bag!!........ Driven Grouse is now £180-215 per brace! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 "A fool and his money" eh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougall Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Driven Grouse is now £180-215 per brace! lol you can tell when last considered it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rimfire4969 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Driven Grouse is now £180-215 per brace! It is not all at that sort of money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 It is not all at that sort of money. Good Moors are that, with waiting lists.. Smaller Moors with smaller days you can find for less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Now in the shops Sound a bargain at £370/k Packaging and shells look nice but ouch to the ££ So who is going to get some to try in the pigeons Light loads of 7's are my ideal, with a heavier load of 6's as the season progresses. I was thinking these would be a good high Partridge load also. I think Gamebore are getting silly now on their prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 They are only silly prices if nobody buys any! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Light loads of 7's are my ideal, with a heavier load of 6's as the season progresses. I was thinking these would be a good high Partridge load also. I think Gamebore are getting silly now on their prices. Just keeping pace with the local competition. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Such words as "Grouse, High Pheasant super this, extreme that" etc are all ploys to maximise profit and get your money.....considerations for me are safety in that the cartridge fits the gun chamber, and environmental considerations such as a biodegradable (felt, fibre) wad....after that any commercially produced cartridge selected by an individual's preferences as to shot size/weight, speed and recoil, will do the job! As an example of this I have, over the last couple of years on occasion, used old recipe, recently homeloaded fibre wad 30g x 6's using Nobel 80 powder on a driven Grouse day....soft shooting, a bit dirty but had a few birds, including more than one right and left whilst using a single gun..... The moral of the story.....you don't have to pay ridiculously high prices for so called premium cartridges......there are more cost effective cartridges that will do the job equally well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Just keeping pace with the local competition. RC in my opinion are same performance and cheaper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I will be using Superfast on them again .... more than enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I will be using Superfast on them again .... more than enough. £190/ 1000 also! Nearly £200/1000 cheaper than the above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 RC in my opinion are same performance and cheaper Are they based beside the Humber as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Are they based beside the Humber as well? No, but who cares where they come from in reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 No, but who cares where they come from in reality. Yep, currently a very realistic point of view which one can't argue with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 Yep, currently a very realistic point of view which one can't argue with. It's great to keep all British but we can't. We've had German and french and Italian makers selling their stuff here for decades and generally has always been very good competition to uk makers. What is interesting is most of them stick to what they know and don't make different wads and **** up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitebridges Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 I wonder what will happen to cartridge prices post Brexit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 There is one thing that you can absolutely guarantee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted August 8, 2017 Report Share Posted August 8, 2017 What is extreme grouse, thought the idea was there driven over the guns. So close shooting at small game hence light small shot loaded carts. If you need big heavey extreme range carts the keeper and shoot ain't doing their job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 What is interesting is most of them stick to what they know and don't make different wads and **** up Exactly. Barrels, chokes, firing pins, primers, powder, lead shot. None of the major features of the shotgun has changed in 100 years. OK, they can increase the energy density of the powder or the muzzle velocities if they have to, but nothing about shot-meets-choke-gets-squeezed-flies-out-kills-bird has changed since we were using 900fps black powder cartridges. Ergo, you might need one or two brands of cartridges to cope with genuinely unusual / finicky guns, but after that, it's all marketing, and we swallow it up! Well - some of us, anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted August 9, 2017 Report Share Posted August 9, 2017 (edited) What is an extreme grouse, thought the idea was there driven over the guns. So close shooting at small game hence light small shot loaded carts. If you need big heavey extreme range carts the keeper and shoot ain't doing their job. Capercaillie I'll get me coat. Edited August 9, 2017 by wymberley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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