quentyn Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 i finally joined the 16bore club today, i thought 20bore subsonics were expensive... holy poo and you get less cartridge too Anyway does anyone do an acceptable clay cartridge in 16 bore ? JC seems to list some in 28g 7's but thats about all Q Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 (edited) Welcome to the 16 gauge fan club! Hint: a 16 gauge is for hunting. Ok - so it could be used for clays, but as far as I'm aware, there isn't a single UK-manufactured clay cartridge for 16 gauge. You might find some of the Italian makers creating something in a #8 which is near enough a UK #7½, but I believe the general feeling is that, because 16's are relatively few and far between, it's not economical to load clay cartridges for them. There'd certainly be very little profit to be had in it, when one needs to run off 1,000,000 cartridges to see any appreciable margin. I suspect there are actually quite a lot of them out there, languishing in the backs of cabinets. They just don't get used because people prefer to take other things out to the field / clay ground. Just the way it is I guess, but certainly I wanted one ever since I saw a rather nice example on my first ever walked up day and thought "ooh - that looks interesting". Stick with an ounce of #6 and use it for everything. Take a different gun if you really need bigger shot. You won't be disappointed. Edited November 6, 2017 by neutron619 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 Cheddite make a clay load Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul1440 Posted November 6, 2017 Report Share Posted November 6, 2017 As above, cheddite do a 28g load in italisn 8s (uk 7.5) 70mm carts that aren't stupidly expensive. It's what I've been using for clays. They seem to perform well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neutron619 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 10 hours ago, dodeer said: Cheddite make a clay load Well this is news to me. I'll go and look it up. The only Cheddite cartridges I've ever seen for sale round these parts are one of their 10 gauge loads. Maybe they just don't sell many in East Anglia - it's all Eley, Gamebore and Hull round my way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted November 7, 2017 Report Share Posted November 7, 2017 Malmo guns are the importers ! http://www.malmoguns.com/cheddite-cartridges/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redial Posted November 22, 2017 Report Share Posted November 22, 2017 Have a look at SAGA cartridges. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomasbeaton Posted November 30, 2017 Report Share Posted November 30, 2017 I buy mirage at £62 a slab for 28g 6's and 5's from dalry, great price compared to most, nice clean kills at some really good distances, only downside to them is they are a bit punchy but it is a slightly heavier shell than the usual 24-26g shell in a light gun (mines a aya sxs). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shalfordninja33 Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 On 06/11/2017 at 23:14, Paul1440 said: As above, cheddite do a 28g load in italisn 8s (uk 7.5) 70mm carts that aren't stupidly expensive. It's what I've been using for clays. They seem to perform well. I have a 16 bore and these sound perfect for a walk around towards the end of the season. I have been using Hull HP 26g no 7, Hull don't make the 28gm in 7's, just 5 or 6's. I may try some Eley or Express in 28gm 7s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted December 5, 2017 Report Share Posted December 5, 2017 (edited) Time to start reloading for it. You can then make whatever you want to shoot out of it and subsonic wise I’m sure cookoff could give some advice. There are some very nice 16 bore guns around but cartridge availability and being in between the 12 & 20 bore make it even less popular. Edited December 5, 2017 by figgy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted March 24, 2018 Report Share Posted March 24, 2018 Old post I know, but just seen that Hull Cartridge now do a 16 bore clay load. https://www.hullcartridge.co.uk/clay/cartridges/pro-sixteen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quentyn Posted March 25, 2018 Author Report Share Posted March 25, 2018 thanks for that ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busbiter Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Not picked up any yet but this load was only launched a few weeks ago. About time frankly!! Well done Hull Cartridge. Anyone have any idea on prices yet? Not listed on Just cartridges although they do have them in stock according to their facebook page. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
redial Posted March 26, 2018 Report Share Posted March 26, 2018 Not before time, thanks Hull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScrapSorcerer Posted March 28, 2018 Report Share Posted March 28, 2018 I've shot 16's for about 30 years and stumbled across some things called "little skeeters" in the US recently. They are gauge reducing tubes that reduce the chamber. I bought some mail order to the UK, a set in 16 down to 20 bore, 16 down to 410 and 12 down to 410. They are recommended for use with only clay loads. A bit fiddly to get the empty shells out, but I can practice with 20 bore cartridges in the 16 and keep my eye in, the saving goes on number 5 bismuth for ducks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
357cdp Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 Hi havent looked on here for some time i have 4 16g 2old a5 semi autos a 1920 s by s and have just got a 16g competitsion o/u i only shot clays i get the same scores with both my 12g and 16g guns Longthorn Guns of Northhampton have 16g clay cartridges 7 1/2 shot made forthem by ELEY .Sellior and Belliot make trap and skeet cartridges i have used some brought by a mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabel25 Posted August 17, 2018 Report Share Posted August 17, 2018 I've just come across this thread to find it quite interesting I shoot 16g among other guages and have owned one for around 7 to 8 years and love them The guage is making a great come back in the UK and there is a wider range of cartridges from quite a few makers On Guntrader there was normaly around 21 to 30 16g o/u for sale If you look now there are nearer 60 Half of which is the new Browning b525 16g who have just brought these out Prior to these you had the Citori white lightning ( which i did own one ) made for the American market and quite rare over here Perazzi have 16g aswell as Chapius. Rizinni and Lincoln have always had 16g Just watch Beretta will be next then other makers will follow suit with 16g's Cartridge suppliers will follow suit with wider ranges Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busbiter Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 It is great to see! I have always shot a 16. Going to treat myself in the coming weeks, undecided whether to go with a B525 30'' or spend a bit more and go with a Rizzini roundbody.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabel25 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, busbiter said: It is great to see! I have always shot a 16. Going to treat myself in the coming weeks, undecided whether to go with a B525 30'' or spend a bit more and go with a Rizzini roundbody.... I've a Lincoln Jubilee Prestige for sale New unfired 30" barrels Still has makers labels on and protective wax I use the same in 28" barrels Great little guns Bought this 30" on a whim but do'nt need it I considered a B Rizzini Artemis a few month back but they come in at 7lb plus which defeats the idea of a light game gun Might aswell carry a 12g of same weight Whereas the Prestige is around 6 1/2lb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Boggy Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 11 hours ago, sabel25 said: I've a Lincoln Jubilee Prestige for sale New unfired 30" barrels Still has makers labels on and protective wax I use the same in 28" barrels Great little guns Bought this 30" on a whim but do'nt need it I considered a B Rizzini Artemis a few month back but they come in at 7lb plus which defeats the idea of a light game gun Might aswell carry a 12g of same weight Whereas the Prestige is around 6 1/2lb +1 for the Lincoln Prestige in 16 gauge. They really are great guns and as Sabel25 says, all the others come in over 7lbs. I shoot with a 16g Prestige and cannot fault it. New ones are now just under £2000 if you can get hold of one go for it. Sabel25 has a new one for considerably less than the new price. If I didn't already have one, I'd buy his. OB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busbiter Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 When I was looking earlier in the year the jubilee prestige certainly tickled my fancy as little else around and certainly is a beautiful gun, didn't realise you still had it for sale! Earlier in the year it didn't quite work out financially but moving house recently has left a hole burning.... I went and looked at a B525 today at Eastern Sporting in Gt Baddow..... within 10 mins I had put a deposit down, a beautiful looking gun and whilst a little bit heavier than your average 16 bore, it pulls up and point a treat. The 16g B525's wont hang about for long. There has been a couple of Mcnab Highlanders show up in the last few days on guntrader also. I will keep my lincoln premier gold as a knock about gun, it has served me well over the last 10 years. I am truly loving the resurgence of the 16 and it is very encouraging to see the cartridge manufacturers increase their range.... watch this space as sure there will be a further increase in available loads,and hopefully an increase in available clay loads. Whilst I think that eley missed a trick with their paper case VIP's (I think they should have been branded grand prix inline with papercase 12 and 20's and keeping with the eley tradition), it is very encouraging to see them take note of the resurgence and increase their range so credit to eley. Credit to Hull launching the pro sixteen also, a great move! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted August 18, 2018 Report Share Posted August 18, 2018 I have an Army & Navy Box Lock 16 gauge made circa 1900. Originally black powder damascus barrels which I had nitro proofed. Had the stock measured and made for me and it fits like a glove. I have always wondered why the 16 never became the chosen one as they are a delight to shoot and will handle everything a 12 gauge will in standard game cartridges and certainly those built on the correct sized action are light in the hand. I have become a bit of a 410 nutter, but at least a couple of days a year I take the 16 for a day out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabel25 Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 11 hours ago, busbiter said: When I was looking earlier in the year the jubilee prestige certainly tickled my fancy as little else around and certainly is a beautiful gun, didn't realise you still had it for sale! Earlier in the year it didn't quite work out financially but moving house recently has left a hole burning.... I went and looked at a B525 today at Eastern Sporting in Gt Baddow..... within 10 mins I had put a deposit down, a beautiful looking gun and whilst a little bit heavier than your average 16 bore, it pulls up and point a treat. The 16g B525's wont hang about for long. There has been a couple of Mcnab Highlanders show up in the last few days on guntrader also. I will keep my lincoln premier gold as a knock about gun, it has served me well over the last 10 years. I am truly loving the resurgence of the 16 and it is very encouraging to see the cartridge manufacturers increase their range.... watch this space as sure there will be a further increase in available loads,and hopefully an increase in available clay loads. Whilst I think that eley missed a trick with their paper case VIP's (I think they should have been branded grand prix inline with papercase 12 and 20's and keeping with the eley tradition), it is very encouraging to see them take note of the resurgence and increase their range so credit to eley. Credit to Hull launching the pro sixteen also, a great move! Good luck with your new purchsae I hope you realise that Browning are offering £150 cashback on new guns purchased? Them 16g Mcnabs are built on the 12g action so your carrying a 12bore around and not a scaled down 16 bore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busbiter Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Thanks for that mate, was not aware of the cashback incentive... how does that work? Nothing was mentioned when I put the deposit down yesterday and have not seen anything online either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted August 19, 2018 Report Share Posted August 19, 2018 Am I alone in thinking that a 16 should be as God intended.....a SxS? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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