AYA117 Posted July 8, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 8 minutes ago, DUNKS said: No. Twas E J Blackley and son. Tried to get our daughter in Canada to bring over some Pilkintons but she looked at the ingredients and declined. I will have a look for the Phillips. Thank you, I may try that myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted July 8, 2018 Report Share Posted July 8, 2018 Tizz now for sale. Lovely strong gun. An ejector too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 On 18/04/2018 at 20:33, browning123 said: I'm in - Webley & Scott 700, built in 1974 and in mint condition. Nice to see an old friend as I almost certainly had a hand in its build . Is there number in the back bite ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted July 10, 2018 Report Share Posted July 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Gunman said: Nice to see an old friend as I almost certainly had a hand in its build . Is there number in the back bite ? Yes, a no 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunman Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 (edited) Definitely one of mine .Free'ers were the only people who put a ID stamp on the gun that was visible . "Freeing was the job of putting the gun together after the action had been hardened seeing that it was tight ,on face ,that the action was timed to cock correctly ,the ejector work timed and pulls set . The barrels were then blacked and the metal parts blacked before final assembly . Basically to make sure it worked. We got the blame if any thing went wrong and had to correct any faults that occurred in the build process , which sometimes included fitting new inside work , springs or pins/screws . We also had frequently to sort out any problems on any returned guns [fortunately very few ] During my 9 years at W&S I did pretty much all the action work at one time or another from jointing ,lever work . inside work , ejectors ,freeing and fitting for 3 years as well as final assembly and finishing .So if a gun was made between 1969 and 1977 there is a 80% chance I did some work on it . Edited July 11, 2018 by Gunman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
browning123 Posted July 11, 2018 Report Share Posted July 11, 2018 34 minutes ago, Gunman said: Definitely one of mine .Free'ers were the only people who put a ID stamp on the gun that was visible . "Freeing was the job of putting the gun together after the action had been hardened seeing that it was tight ,on face ,that the action was timed to cock correctly ,the ejector work timed and pulls set . The barrels were then blacked and the metal parts blacked before final assembly . Basically to make sure it worked. We got the blame if any thing went wrong and had to correct any faults that occurred in the build process , which sometimes included fitting new inside work , springs or pins/screws . We also had frequently to sort out any problems on any returned guns [fortunately very few ] During my 9 years at W&S I did pretty much all the action work at one time or another from jointing ,lever work . inside work , ejectors ,freeing and fitting for 3 years as well as final assembly and finishing .So if a gun was made between 1969 and 1977 there is a 80% chance I did some work on it . Thanks for your very interesting information on your job description while working for W&S. I recently purchased the Webley locally to where I live, and it had been a real sleeper which still retains its full colour hardening etc. As it was left hand cast when purchased - I had it cast to right hand by Greenwood Gunsmiths. A lovely gun which I look forward to using this coming game season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaf70 Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 17 hours ago, Gunman said: Definitely one of mine .Free'ers were the only people who put a ID stamp on the gun that was visible . "Freeing was the job of putting the gun together after the action had been hardened seeing that it was tight ,on face ,that the action was timed to cock correctly ,the ejector work timed and pulls set . The barrels were then blacked and the metal parts blacked before final assembly . Basically to make sure it worked. We got the blame if any thing went wrong and had to correct any faults that occurred in the build process , which sometimes included fitting new inside work , springs or pins/screws . We also had frequently to sort out any problems on any returned guns [fortunately very few ] During my 9 years at W&S I did pretty much all the action work at one time or another from jointing ,lever work . inside work , ejectors ,freeing and fitting for 3 years as well as final assembly and finishing .So if a gun was made between 1969 and 1977 there is a 80% chance I did some work on it . sound's like you probably had a part in my '74 700 then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 Fl;ippin' 'eck, it sounds as though we need a W&S '74 700 club! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 On 08/07/2018 at 11:30, AYA117 said: Thank you, I may try that myself. I have used this black solution for several decades has it resembles the old Birmingham Black . Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 3 hours ago, Feltwad said: I have used this black solution for several decades has it resembles the old Birmingham Black . Feltwad Does it give a lasting finish or does it wear off like I have heard that Birchwood Casey does ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted July 12, 2018 Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 I think all the cold blue solutions are not too permanent. The stuff I am using is for slow rust blue. The most durable black there is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted July 12, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 12, 2018 29 minutes ago, DUNKS said: I think all the cold blue solutions are not too permanent. The stuff I am using is for slow rust blue. The most durable black there is. I have a spare AYA No.2 that is in need of the barrels doing and once Autumn comes I will have time in the evenings, so will give it a go, thank you for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feltwad Posted July 13, 2018 Report Share Posted July 13, 2018 7 hours ago, AYA117 said: Does it give a lasting finish or does it wear off like I have heard that Birchwood Casey does ? Have some barrels that I did several decades ago and it is still good not a glossy black but a black with a mat finish known has Birmingham Black Feltwad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted July 15, 2018 Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 Hi. Quick look for you of my latest find. T DAINTITH of Warrington. Little known gunmaker of fine guns. This one around 1890 we think. I am reliably told it's a pigeon gun with it's wide flat rib. Just had it rejointed. Seems to be in reasonable nick for such an old gun. Bores to be honest could be a tad better. It's proofed black powder only but that's what I want it for. I have cleaned up the outside of the barrels and intend to brown them. Hi. Quick look for you of my latest find. T DAINTITH of Warrington. Little known gunmaker of fine guns. This one around 1890 we think. I am reliably told it's a pigeon gun with it's wide flat rib. Just had it rejointed. Seems to be in reasonable nick for such an old gun. Bores to be honest could be a tad better. It's proofed black powder only but that's what I want it for. I have cleaned up the outside of the barrels and intend to brown them. Few more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AYA117 Posted July 15, 2018 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2018 WOW! I think that covers it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 Wonderful! a Boxing day pheasant shoot & the aroma of burnt "Blackie" drifting on the air.Amazing timber, if only they could talk. Hats off to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spot on Posted July 17, 2018 Report Share Posted July 17, 2018 now that is what you call a stock...truly outstanding piece of wood ..love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Penelope Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 Stunning wood.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted July 18, 2018 Report Share Posted July 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Penelope said: Stunning wood.? And then some! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Churchills of Dereham have a pair of Cogswell & Harrison assisted opening sidelock ejectors, in fitted case for under £2k! on Guntrader , look like they need a bit of work but look a steal.Too far away for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave at kelton Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 8 minutes ago, guzzicat said: Churchills of Dereham have a pair of Cogswell & Harrison assisted opening sidelock ejectors, in fitted case for under £2k! on Guntrader , look like they need a bit of work but look a steal.Too far away for me. They are sideplate boxlocks and need tic hence the price. Cogswells have never been that popular in my experience I saw some of the avant tout models with fractured actions on proof. I am sure they will have their devotees but I am not one of them I am afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 2 hours ago, guzzicat said: Churchills of Dereham have a pair of Cogswell & Harrison assisted opening sidelock ejectors, in fitted case for under £2k! on Guntrader , look like they need a bit of work but look a steal.Too far away for me. C+H are j generally junk. Ask any gun dealer and he won’t want go near one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 1 hour ago, dodeer said: C+H are j generally junk. Ask any gun dealer and he won’t want go near one So the Avant Tout is not then ? Thanks for info, glad i,m not closer, I might have gone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dodeer Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 37 minutes ago, guzzicat said: So the Avant Tout is not then ? Thanks for info, glad i,m not closer, I might have gone! You’d of regretted it if you’d bought them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted July 29, 2018 Report Share Posted July 29, 2018 I’m back in the club picked up a Master side by side 12 Bore today that belonged to a good friend of mine before he died a few weeks back ? its only a cheapish gun but I wanted a cheap side by side that was nice and light for training my new spaniel so will be ideal and a good keep sake to remember my mate! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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