LGBT awareness month

[Seadog1408]

8 minutes ago, Winston72 said:

I'll stop when other people stop talking about been straight,

Please do post a link to a PW thread started about being straight.

[Winston72]

https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/373181-new-parents/

[Seadog1408]

1 minute ago, Winston72 said:

https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/373181-new-parents/

That's a post about parenthood, please post a link to a thread on being straight or............admit you can't.

[Winston72]

https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/372011-my-wife/

1 minute ago, Seadog1408 said:

That's a post about parenthood, please post a link to a thread on being straight or............admit you can't.

as far as im aware new parents is a straight topic

[Seadog1408]

1 minute ago, Winston72 said:

https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/372011-my-wife/

as far as im aware new parents is a straight topic

You are grasping at straws.

By the very rational that you are desperately trying to find a thread to justify your own says it all mate.

3 minutes ago, Winston72 said:

https://forums.pigeonwatch.co.uk/forums/topic/372011-my-wife/

as far as im aware new parents is a straight topic

But don't you see it's not a straight only topic, plenty of gay couples have kids. You are being blinkered here.

[Winston72]

I am not your mate, and the point was trying to raise awareness(sick of saying it now) if people wanna talk about their wives and girlfriends on here , should i not be able to talk freely about my partner and things that affect us?

I am beginning to think i am not coming over too well on here and i am not the greatest debater either , for the last time all i wanted to do was

RAISE AWARENESS not start a bloody argument about what is and isn't acceptable on a shooting forum off topic section 

[Seadog1408]

Using the term "mate" was to make sure you didn't take my post as criticism, don't worry we don't need to be mates.

i understand it is a very emotional subject for you, maybe it's different up in leeds but down here in Brighton there really is no need to highlight or educate people as we have a literal melting pot of all persuasions and 99% of the time we all get along.

anyway, I shall bow out of the topic, and hope you feel you have got your point across.

 

mike

 

 

[Winston72]

It is hugely different in Brighton its the Gay Mecca (no not a joke)

[spandit]

4 minutes ago, Seadog1408 said:

down here in Brighton there really is no need to highlight or educate people

Really? REALLY? In Brighton? Where they have a huge gay pride festival every year? Is a 3 day celebration of LGBT not highlighting? It's hardly a low key event...

[ClemFandango]

I am aware that there are other sexualities other than whatever it is I am. 

some people throughout history have been persecuted because their sexuality is different to the majority as well as a whole host of other reasons and that is wrong. 

other than that does LGBT affect me? I don't think so, it's nobody elses business other than my own (and I suppose my partners!) what my sexuality is and it's none of my business what anybody elses is.  

Some people like to share these things, that's fine, doesn't really effect me either. Winston has mentioned a few times on here that he is gay and in a thread a while ago was describing being spat at while out with his partner which I was shocked at but I suppose not surprised. 

I don't really get the whole "I don't like it when they ram it down your throat?" argument. It never really worries me, it's only offensive if you let it be, I would just change the channel or ignore it if it worried me that much, the same as when I see Jeremy Clarkson or Chris Packham on telly. To be honest I find overly laddish behaviour more offensive if I were to be honest. 

Winston often posts about his sexualtiy on here and I always think he has a pretty good sense of humour and responds to the banter quite well, by and large that banter is always pretty light hearted and good intentioned, or that's how I read it. 

Thanks for posting the link Winston, if nothing else it's started a bit of a debate and that's got to be a good thing. 

Please continue to post gay stuff on other threads too, for what it's worth I quite like it. 

[Winston72]

maybe a thread on Lube prices and buying in bulk?

[Scully]

1 hour ago, Winston72 said:

I'll stop when other people stop talking about been straight,and i am merely raising a plight not my own personal one, but one of many that have a hard time

I’ve never mentioned being straight, and the ‘new parent’ thread is about parenthood; as I’m sure you’re aware gay and lesbian couples are often parents also. 

With various people constantly seeking to marginalise themselves I wonder how long it will be before heterosexual white meat eaters will be marginalised and have  to ‘raise awareness’ of their plight. 

I know, let’s start a MOWO Award ceremony; see how well that goes down. 

 

[Munzy]

41 minutes ago, Winston72 said:

...if people wanna talk about their wives and girlfriends on here , should i not be able to talk freely about my partner and things that affect us?

This is the crux of it...

You want to be able to talk about your partner just like any straight member feels comfortable doing. HOWEVER, you didn’t start a thread talking about your partner, you started one preaching about the plight of LGBT+ people.

Had you started a thread about how your boyfriend/husband’s cooking is terrible we would’ve all said, “Yeah, you haven’t tasted my wife’s” and other bits of banter. There are enough comments on this thread saying “live and let live” even from people who seem to be anti-gay. There are an equal amount saying they “don’t care” what someone’s sexual persuasion is.

So, the answer in short is... if you want to feel like a normal part of the community then tell us about your partner and your life in general. You haven’t so far and that’s why people have been annoyed by this thread.

[Winston72]

4 minutes ago, Munzy said:

This is the crux of it...

You want to be able to talk about your partner just like any straight member feels comfortable doing. HOWEVER, you didn’t start a thread talking about your partner, you started one preaching about the plight of LGBT+ people.

Had you started a thread about how your boyfriend/husband’s cooking is terrible we would’ve all said, “Yeah, you haven’t tasted my wife’s” and other bits of banter. There are enough comments on this thread saying “live and let live” even from people who seem to be anti-gay. There are an equal amount saying they “don’t care” what someone’s sexual persuasion is.

So, the answer in short is... if you want to feel like a normal part of the community then tell us about your partner and your life in general. You haven’t so far and that’s why people have been annoyed by this thread.

I shall take you at your word and we will see how it pans out

[12gauge82]

I think this thread has confirmed a point for me, homosexuals are no longer victimised or discriminated against or at least no more than anyone else in society, I've worked in male dominated environments for most of my life and this thread reflects the honest views of the vast majority of the many people I've met, which is nobody cares, many don't like seeing it in public anymore than they'd want to see heteosexual couples all over each other in public but I think the whole gay pride thing can be put to bed now, it's no longer an issue and to continue it is trying to cling to the fact that they're "different" or "special"

[Jaymo]

10 hours ago, rimmie said:

I didn’t call you a ***** ******actually, it was another member.

why do you feel the need to push peoples faces in lgbt anything ? What makes you think anyone cares ? 

You’re an attention seeker, and **** stirrer. This whole topic is to cause an argument, which I think was you’re plan.

again, why ?

Not getting involved in this ‘debate’ but I do have to laugh at how ironic the link between the thread and your user name!

You didn’t used to have the user name ‘Robbie the rimmer’ did you? Anyone remember that one...

[Winston72]

6 minutes ago, Jaymo said:

Not getting involved in this ‘debate’ but I do have to laugh at how ironic the link between the thread and your user name!

You didn’t used to have the user name ‘Robbie the rimmer’ did you? Anyone remember that one...

I think I might be missing something there,and never been called Robbie the Rimmer B.J. Steve, but never Robbie the rimmer

[sitsinhedges]

Time to find out if the forum has an ignore button and use it.

[Jaymo]

8 minutes ago, Winston72 said:

I think I might be missing something there,and never been called Robbie the Rimmer B.J. Steve, but never Robbie the rimmer

Winston72, not u silly-  the guy who’s post I was quoting...... Now go back to the food debate ;-)

[Winston72]

11 minutes ago, sitsinhedges said:

Time to find out if the forum has an ignore button and use it.

you could always just ignore and not read

[Rewulf]

19 minutes ago, Winston72 said:

you could always just ignore and not read

What would you have done if no one had replied to your post ?

If people had just ignored it and thought , Ive no interest in that subject, would you have felt marginalised , offended?
You posted it to get a reaction, which you got, now in some cases you dont like the reaction, what did you actually expect from it ?
" Well done Winston for 'coming out ' on the forum ,and thank you for educating us about historical LGBT issues"

There is a saying, 'How do you know there is a vegan in the room? Dont worry theyll let you know'

You know full well the type of people who visit PW , and you know full well what the reaction was likely to be.
So what exactly did you hope to achieve, a debate, an argument, education, or a bit of light trolling ?

[spandit]

57 minutes ago, Jaymo said:

Not getting involved in this ‘debate’ but I do have to laugh at how ironic the link between the thread and your user name!

You didn’t used to have the user name ‘Robbie the rimmer’ did you? Anyone remember that one...

Almost as bad as being called R. Spandit... 

[lksopener]

There’s no need to discuss this thread. 

Live and let live, everyone’s different we all have our own nuances and eccentricities but we are all ultimately human. 

We don’t need to sub divide our self in to groups or apply labels.

[AULD YIN]

I thought the rules covered this type of thread?

 

It is strictly prohibited to post or hyperlink to, any material which is defamatory, threatening, obscene, harmful, pornographic or of a sexual nature, or material which would violate or infringe in any way upon the rights of others (including intellectual property rights, copyrights, rights of confidentiality, or rights of privacy) or cause distress or inconvenience or which do not comply with all relevant laws. You must not post messages that are vulgar, crude, sexist, racist, homophobic, offensive, or otherwise violating any law.

 

[Winston72]

6 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

What would you have done if no one had replied to your post ?

If people had just ignored it and thought , Ive no interest in that subject, would you have felt marginalised , offended?
You posted it to get a reaction, which you got, now in some cases you dont like the reaction, what did you actually expect from it ?
" Well done Winston for 'coming out ' on the forum ,and thank you for educating us about historical LGBT issues"

There is a saying, 'How do you know there is a vegan in the room? Dont worry theyll let you know'

You know full well the type of people who visit PW , and you know full well what the reaction was likely to be.
So what exactly did you hope to achieve, a debate, an argument, education, or a bit of light trolling ?

I didn't expect much of a response at all but though i might just enlighten the odd one or two, Thank you for your acceptance, as for Trolling come on, i could do that on any post by taking the opposite point of view, i will defend my actions here but definatley not a Troll unless I am still in denial and just have'nt realised yet