Farmboy91 Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 9 minutes ago, Westley said: How true. Met a guy last month at local ground who has just had a full refund on a faulty ATA . He has bought an old used Miroku and loves it. Maybe the later ones are better ? He's lucky to have got he's money and be without the hassle, wish it had been that simple with mine 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 2 minutes ago, Farmboy91 said: He's lucky to have got he's money and be without the hassle, wish it had been that simple with mine 😂 He had to use Legal help, I believe ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 Handled and shot a few ATA guns, they look and shoot ok. If you want one buy one, there are lots of mixed reviews. Two I know of have had faults, both fixed and they still have the guns. Plenty of premium guns have faults too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbob Posted February 7, 2019 Report Share Posted February 7, 2019 3 hours ago, Westley said: Don't think he wants to hear this ? That maybe true but honesty is the best policy and he did ask for peoples opinions. I have read a lot about them and seen many positive reviews online. However it’s reading people’s real life experiences that makes me think a s/h established maker is the best way forward. I still believe though if the op buys one he’s getting a out of gun for the money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sabel25 Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Well i have'nt shot these guns But ATA were established in turkey in 1955 so should have good pedigree in gun manufacturing How Turkish gun manufacturers can turn out guns as cheap no one knows Maybe the EU handouts but they're building up a reputation for affordable guns wether good or not so good As the saying goes you buy cheap you sell cheaper But if you like it and can shoot with it then who is to argue Spanish guns in the 60's / 70's were considered as some cheap upstarts and proved themselves as good gun makers, At the same time the Italians proved themselves the same Then we have the turks proving themselves as serious gun makers Just read a good article on the new EJ churchill SXS pair for £19000 Made by no other than AYA based on the no2 Made in Spain hand made Buy the same pair with the AYA badge some £3000 plus cheaper Horses for courses ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbob Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 9 hours ago, sabel25 said: Well i have'nt shot these guns But ATA were established in turkey in 1955 so should have good pedigree in gun manufacturing How Turkish gun manufacturers can turn out guns as cheap no one knows Maybe the EU handouts but they're building up a reputation for affordable guns wether good or not so good As the saying goes you buy cheap you sell cheaper But if you like it and can shoot with it then who is to argue Spanish guns in the 60's / 70's were considered as some cheap upstarts and proved themselves as good gun makers, At the same time the Italians proved themselves the same Then we have the turks proving themselves as serious gun makers Just read a good article on the new EJ churchill SXS pair for £19000 Made by no other than AYA based on the no2 Made in Spain hand made Buy the same pair with the AYA badge some £3000 plus cheaper Horses for courses ? I didnt think Turkey were an EU member? If so do they get EU handouts? Maybe if they're still selling guns in 10-20yrs time at the same rate then they may be considered an established brand. Time will tell. I am not trying to slate ATA or any Turkish brand in any way but others have been around longer and established themselves in the UK. I hope ATA, KOFS and others like them can do the same. In the mean time I still feel a S/H Browning, Beretta, Miroku, Winchester or even Lanber is still the safest way to spend £600. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 This is worth a read, note, its 3 years old. https://www.shootinguk.co.uk/guns/buy-gun-guide/turkish-shotguns-600-35631 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted February 8, 2019 Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Ata Arms made barrels for Berretta shotguns . So they must know what they are doing . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted February 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2019 Cheers everyone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumpy22 Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 as udderlyoffroad has said earlier he took the option to buy new and is happy. when he brought it to our clay ground we had a good look and although it is no berretta browning or guerini it will be a good gun for him to start his shooting with.he is a great lad and listens to all instructions so i am sure the gun will see a lot of use . he did plenty of research and is certainly happy with his choice. which i think we can all agree confidence is a major part of shooting i suspect they will carry on selling numbers at that price and become a leading budget seller in a flooded market Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted February 9, 2019 Report Share Posted February 9, 2019 On 07/02/2019 at 13:16, Jbob said: I was interested in getting an ATA at one time. Thought that at around £600 depending on model and spec it was a good deal. It is to be fair but then I started to read about the trigger failing etc and the gun having to go back, yes under warranty but none the less a new gun having to be returned. As a result I have decided to stick with my old Lanber for now and if I do buy again I would buy a S/H Winchester, Browning or Miruko or even another Lanber. With the amount of money you have to spend you should be able to by a decent S/H gun with a proven track record. Oh and don't be fooled into the thinking its a beretta copy. the man who makes ata actually sold his previous gunmaking business to beretta, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbob Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 09/02/2019 at 11:36, hawkfanz said: the man who makes ata actually sold his previous gunmaking business to beretta, That is what I have read too. And I understand that they made barrels for beretta too. But on stripping the guns down the triggers firing mechanism differ. The Gun Shop on youtube did a very good video on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jbob said: That is what I have read too. And I understand that they made barrels for beretta too. But on stripping the guns down the triggers firing mechanism differ. The Gun Shop on youtube did a very good video on this. Bought one yesterday. Theres such a large range of configurations with them, barrel lengths, adjustable stocks, colours, sporter or 'game' versions ! I got a nickel game version with 30 " barrels, £595 from a local company called Orridge and Orridge, never heard of them before, but what a cracking pair of lads (Father and Son) I was so impressed I brought a Rizzini too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 48 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Bought one yesterday. Theres such a large range of configurations with them, barrel lengths, adjustable stocks, colours, sporter or 'game' versions ! I got a nickel game version with 30 " barrels, £595 from a local company called Orridge and Orridge, never heard of them before, but what a cracking pair of lads (Father and Son) I was so impressed I brought a Rizzini too Enjoy your new purchases, a shooting mate has an ATA (not sure what model) and it hasn't missed a beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 Nice one, doubt you'll be disappointed with either purchase! Speaking of which...what Rizzini did you buy? 12 bore as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 44 minutes ago, udderlyoffroad said: Nice one, doubt you'll be disappointed with either purchase! Speaking of which...what Rizzini did you buy? 12 bore as well? I didnt even ask which Rizzini it was , it was £200 , 12g O/U 27 " barrel , multichoke, and a left hooker, I just picked it up and said, thats nice, he said yours for a couple of hundred, it would have been rude not to 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stu64 Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 On 07/02/2019 at 20:07, figgy said: Handled and shot a few ATA guns, they look and shoot ok. If you want one buy one, there are lots of mixed reviews. Two I know of have had faults, both fixed and they still have the guns. Plenty of premium guns have faults too. How true. And it hurts more when the gun costs more. I would also be wary buying well known brands second hand. sometimes the owner/dealer is glad to get rid of it. A guy at my local clay shoot bought a second hand caeser guerini-lovely gun and a fair bit of money even second hand. But it loved to double discharge which they couldn't sort so he got rid. Nothing is perfect hey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbob Posted February 14, 2019 Report Share Posted February 14, 2019 11 minutes ago, Rewulf said: I didnt even ask which Rizzini it was , it was £200 , 12g O/U 27 " barrel , multichoke, and a left hooker, I just picked it up and said, thats nice, he said yours for a couple of hundred, it would have been rude not to 😂 That sound like the best way to carry out business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayman1965 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 On 05/02/2019 at 21:52, Jacko3275 said: Just waiting on my cert to drop through the door and am interested in an ata bronze sp sporter for my first gun I have read to get a 686 or a 525 but would like views on the ata if anyone as had-or got one ......cheers I bought a browning 525 two years ago, within the first year I had to have new firing pins and springs, within the second year it had to go back again because the top leaver was so stiff you had to force it to open,so all guns can have there problems Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted February 15, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 7 minutes ago, Drayman1965 said: I bought a browning 525 two years ago, within the first year I had to have new firing pins and springs, within the second year it had to go back again because the top leaver was so stiff you had to force it to open,so all guns can have there problems Cheers on that 👍 think I’m gonna get the ata if it’s not the gun for hey ho it’s 600 quid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayman1965 Posted February 15, 2019 Report Share Posted February 15, 2019 16 minutes ago, Jacko3275 said: Cheers on that 👍 think I’m gonna get the ata if it’s not the gun for hey ho it’s 600 quid I don't blame you, for me the ata or silver pigeon never a browning again (once bitten) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 Well been to my local rfd and ordered the ata sp bronze sporter with 28ins Matt black barrels as they don’t stock them just to make sure it’s here when cert lands on the door mat 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drayman1965 Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, Jacko3275 said: Well been to my local rfd and ordered the ata sp bronze sporter with 28ins Matt black barrels as they don’t stock them just to make sure it’s here when cert lands on the door mat 🤞 Nice one you enjoy it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted February 16, 2019 Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 2 hours ago, Jacko3275 said: Well been to my local rfd and ordered the ata sp bronze sporter with 28ins Matt black barrels as they don’t stock them just to make sure it’s here when cert lands on the door mat 🤞 Nice one, as you've probably read in the thread above I have the exact same except the action is black too. Get yourself a decent padded slip or hard case, as the 'socks' that come with it aren't much cop! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacko3275 Posted February 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted February 16, 2019 1 hour ago, udderlyoffroad said: Nice one, as you've probably read in the thread above I have the exact same except the action is black too. Get yourself a decent padded slip or hard case, as the 'socks' that come with it aren't much cop! Got that all sorted just the wait on the cert that killing me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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