Boris Johnson has an Argument!

[mel b3]

We've all done it gents , you go out to work and you've forgotten to turn off your lap top , your Mrs finds it and starts checking your browsing history ,by the time you get home she's standing there wearing THE FACE ! . We all know how it goes from there 😅😅😅.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

27 minutes ago, mel b3 said:

We've all done it gents , you go out to work and you've forgotten to turn off your lap top , your Mrs finds it and starts checking your browsing history ,by the time you get home she's standing there wearing THE FACE ! . We all know how it goes from there 😅😅😅.

You might have, I certainly haven't! What did she do to you?

 

Everybody argues, unfortunately far too many have blamed Boris and some seem to think he is a "wife beater" which is really rather disapointing.

 

I really hope the person or people responsible for recording the argument, calling the Police and then selling it to the Guardian have some sort of misfortune whereby they might need to go next door and request help!

[Rewulf]

14 hours ago, Jaymo said:

You typing on a mobile phone? They have a wonderfully sensitive microphone and ‘memo’ app already. 

How sensitive? 

Enough to listen through the floor of an old London townhouse, and hear every word? 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9354092/boris-johnson-furious-partner-carrie-symonds-stitch-up-anti-brexit/

“My sole concern was the welfare and safety of my neighbours.”
He also admitted recording the spat and contacting The Guardian "

Lovely! 

[mel b3]

14 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said:

You might have, I certainly haven't! What did she do to you?

 

Everybody argues, unfortunately far too many have blamed Boris and some seem to think he is a "wife beater" which is really rather disapointing.

 

I really hope the person or people responsible for recording the argument, calling the Police and then selling it to the Guardian have some sort of misfortune whereby they might need to go next door and request help!

She made me promise not to spend the whole day browsing pigeonwatch while I should be working 😅. 

[TIGHTCHOKE]

You LUCKY man!

[Mighty Ruler]

The neighbour’s worried about losing EU funding for her ‘experimental play’, so why doesn’t she just use her late father’s money to fund it. After all, that’s what’s funding the rest of her life, doubt she’s ever done a proper days paid work.

[TIGHTCHOKE]

5 minutes ago, Mighty Ruler said:

The neighbour’s worried about losing EU funding for her ‘experimental play’, so why doesn’t she just use her late father’s money to fund it. After all, that’s what’s funding the rest of her life, doubt she’s ever done a proper days paid work.

Perhaps she aspires to be a politician!

[Jaymo]

1 hour ago, Rewulf said:

How sensitive? 

Enough to listen through the floor of an old London townhouse, and hear every word? 

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9354092/boris-johnson-furious-partner-carrie-symonds-stitch-up-anti-brexit/

“My sole concern was the welfare and safety of my neighbours.”
He also admitted recording the spat and contacting The Guardian "

Lovely! 

Quick experiment, kids in the kitchen 7m away with iPads on and their conversation is picked up easily, that’s not even at an elevated tone.

Alexa picks up a loud whisper at 4m.

So, depending on the location of the recording device in relation to say, was it place by an open window adjacent to Carrie’s open window? Are the above or below in a converted dwelling with minimal sound deadening from early building reg’s.

Friends apartment was converted so badly you could hear upstairs **** 🙂

Regards ‘selling the spat’ to the papers, had it been say, someone with a recording of Abbot and Corbyn getting jiggy then I do believe the comments on here would be Polar

One look at any tabloid to see that people will sell any story for, their bit of fame or cash.

Edited June 23, 2019 by Jaymo

[TIGHTCHOKE]

Well at least you've stopped calling hima wifebeater!

[Rewulf]

15 minutes ago, Jaymo said:

One look at any tabloid to see that people will sell any story for, their bit of fame or cash

The technology part of whether its possible to record a downstairs conversation on a mobile phone aside, we need to look at the intent of 'concerned' couple. 

A. They knew exactly who was in the flat, and both had previously expressed their dislike of him and his politics, they could both be described as low level lefty activists. 

B. Why did they call the police anonymously, surely it matters not, as later on, when the story comes out, they will be identified? Or is that not how they for saw it? 

C. Money, she has a multimillionaire daddy, they live in a very expensive property, playwrights? Meh,, he has though received EU  funding before, and both are committed remainders. Did they really need the money, or was the aim more political? 

D. Fame? More like infamy! They will be 'forced' to move next, and he has already asked for PRIVACY! 

I believe they will bitterly regret their attempt at blackening Boris 's name, I'm sure there'll be many a' call out' to their property in the coming weeks. 

[Rewulf]

Apparently the 'concerned' neighbour owns a pub in London, a gastro pub no less.
Which until very very recently 😆 enjoyed good reviews on google and tripadvisor.
I wont name it publicly.

Welcome to fame Sir 😄

[Jaymo]

37 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

Apparently the 'concerned' neighbour owns a pub in London, a gastro pub no less.
Which until very very recently 😆 enjoyed good reviews on google and tripadvisor.
I wont name it publicly.

Welcome to fame Sir 😄

Rightly or wrongly, they reported something which with sound recordings, is ‘fact’, your advocating ruining someone’s ( and those who also work there, if it were to fold as a result) business by utilising false reviews? 

We don’t always see eye to eye on here, but I sure wouldn’t leave negative reviews pertaining to your Repair business, if I hadn’t actually had any dealings with you.

Democracy has been bandied around along with freedom of speech, yet hypocrisy should have been the most used word of the year.......

 

[grrclark]

I think there are a few elements to this story.

One is undoubted cynical opportunism by the neighbours to make a recording of the argument and give that to the newspaper, I don't think with any reasonableness that could be considered as anything other than that.  The motivation is almost certainly to smear BoJo.

The calling of police hearing a heated argument of neighbours is less clear cut, beyond the media reporting what has gone on we don't know how raucous or otherwise the argument was, so it may well have been a legitimate call of concern as it caused genuine alarm, it might have been an hyper sensitive over reaction, or of course it could also have been pure opportunism and a desire to cause harm to BoJo at the sound of a heated row; to play the good concerned citizen card.

Notwithstanding any of the above, the real issue for me is Boris' judgement both in allowing a situation to develop that gave the neighbours an opportunity in the first place and then his reaction after the event.  Whether it was merited or not the police were called to the house of our prospective PM on a 999 call of reported domestic disturbance.

Boris has to talk about that.  He doesn't have to give details about wine on the sofa or details of how tempestuous or not his relationship is with his partner, but he does need to give a statement about the police coming to his door.

He could say that it was wilful mischief making by his neighbours, his partner could sit with him in the press conference, he can cite the police report that all was well when they arrived, he can call it out as rank opportunism, but why is he saying nothing?

It also cant be ignored that Boris is no stranger to domestic disharmony, he had a super injunction for 3 years to stop the world hearing of his extra marital child, there was a pregnancy with another affair that ended in an abortion, he is twice divorced.    That is human life and he is amongst hundreds of millions of others who have been around a bit, but it does call into question his own decision making ability and also his morals.  None of that plays well to the traditional conservative voter and Boris knows it, his card of strength in this leadership run off is his supposed commitment on Brexit, but Hunt is saying much the same and I believe that Boris is afraid to come under real testing scrutiny beyond soundbites.

He is an inveterate liar, or at least if not wilfully seeking to mislead he far too readily makes promises and commitments he has absolutely no intention of keeping, i.e. 'I shall lie down in front of the bulldozers' for Heathrow expansion in his promise to his constituency (bet he doesn't).

Finally, if Boris can be caught out by two left leaning luvvies living in the flat next door to his partner who used a simple mobile phone or a voice recorder to overhear the shouting and screaming, what chance does he have against state actors who are desperately going to try and besmirch him for political leverage and capital?

[Newbie to this]

5 minutes ago, grrclark said:

 shall lie down in front of the bulldozers' for Heathrow expansion in his promise to his constituency (bet he doesn't).

He has already stated that if he becomes PM, his stance on the expansion at Heathrow will change.

[grrclark]

1 minute ago, Newbie to this said:

He has already stated that if he becomes PM, his stance on the expansion at Heathrow will change.

He never meant it when he said it in the first place.  Grandstanding for support was all that it was.  In my opinion of course.

[Newbie to this]

3 minutes ago, grrclark said:

He never meant it when he said it in the first place.  Grandstanding for support was all that it was.  In my opinion of course.

I completely agree, just a typical politician saying what people want to hear, to get votes. I trust none of them, doesn't matter what party they are a member of, they all lie and tell half truths.

Edited June 24, 2019 by Newbie to this

[Rewulf]

19 minutes ago, Jaymo said:

Rightly or wrongly, they reported something which with sound recordings, is ‘fact’, your advocating ruining someone’s ( and those who also work there, if it were to fold as a result) business by utilising false reviews? 

We don’t always see eye to eye on here, but I sure wouldn’t leave negative reviews pertaining to your Repair business, if I hadn’t actually had any dealings with you.

Democracy has been bandied around along with freedom of speech, yet hypocrisy should have been the most used word of the year.......

 

Im advocating nothing.
If I was I would have mentioned the pub name, that is not what I , or this forum is about.

When you take a willful action such as Mr nosy neighbour took, you sometimes have to accept the consequences of your actions.
You take ownership of what he (pretty obviously) attempted to do, which was damage BJs reputation, and damage his leadership bid.
All this for political 'cool points' he could use at dinner parties with his champagne socialist mates.

He thought he could get away with it by reporting to the police anonymously, and getting the guardian to keep his name out of it, he got it WRONG, and him, his partner, and quite possibly his employees will pay the price for his new found fame.

This is called taking responsibility for ones actions.

 

Edited June 24, 2019 by Rewulf

[JohnfromUK]

1 hour ago, Newbie to this said:

and tell half truths.

If you are getting half truths, you are doing well, or he/she is slipping up.

[Dave-G]

I've not heard the recording but can't help wondering if the recording was aided by a glass on the wall type of device, or maybe something more sophisticated - perhaps supplied by a lefty newspaper digging deep for a chance to smear Bojo.

[Smokersmith]

I'm concerned that Boris is leaving quite a vacuum on communication at the moment.

Hi initial 'less is more' stance needs to change, and he needs to get out and inspire people again.

I see reports today that his lead has evaporated .. time to step up. 

If he can't .. he's not the right man.

[Yellow Bear]

Just now, Smokersmith said:

I see reports today that his lead has evaporated .. time to step up. 

So the smear campaign is working it would appear.  The fact that the remain and left wings are pursuing this so hard means he is the one that worries them most as to success in giving the populace what the majority voted for

[henry d]

14 minutes ago, Dave-G said:

I've not heard the recording but can't help wondering if the recording was aided by a glass on the wall type of device, or maybe something more sophisticated - perhaps supplied by a lefty newspaper digging deep for a chance to smear Bojo.

 

1 minute ago, Yellow Bear said:

So the smear campaign is working it would appear.  The fact that the remain and left wings are pursuing this so hard means he is the one that worries them most as to success in giving the populace what the majority voted for

Yeah, its all a conspiracy, lets blame the left/middle/press/illuminati/al Qaeda/whatever

[Rewulf]

18 minutes ago, Dave-G said:

I've not heard the recording but can't help wondering if the recording was aided by a glass on the wall type of device, or maybe something more sophisticated - perhaps supplied by a lefty newspaper digging deep for a chance to smear Bojo.

My thoughts too.
All a little too convenient at this time.

 

2 minutes ago, henry d said:

 

Yeah, its all a conspiracy, lets blame the left/middle/press/illuminati/al Qaeda/whatever

Thanks , we will.

[Dave-G]

7 minutes ago, henry d said:

 

Yeah, its all a conspiracy, lets blame the left/middle/press/illuminati/al Qaeda/whatever

Absolutely - I'd guess you feel the 'concerned parties' did it for no payment too lol.

[Rewulf]

https://metro.co.uk/2019/06/23/class-war-anarchists-protest-outside-boris-johnsons-girlfriends-flat-row-10033834/?ito=article.desktop.share.top.facebook&fbclid=IwAR1UqHwhcD5U67iFAbEdtdmbnZvzFGgaHP7DtmDl_-LsO9ASc-_8D4jLzUE

More fame.

Boris is used to it , I wonder if Mr Penn appreciates them outside his flat also ?