TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 An interesting quote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 Quote You do know of course that Guido Fawkes is nothing but a propaganda sheet for the hard-Brexit wing of the Leave campaign. As such it has no more validity as an original source of reference that does The Socialist Worker. He seems to be remarkably well informed. Perhaps you could point out some of the more glaring lies he has published. It shouldn't be hard, if you are accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sportsbob Posted July 6, 2019 Report Share Posted July 6, 2019 6 hours ago, pinfireman said: The EU Defence force would swallow up all the armed resources of its vassal states.................Quite considerable. They would scrap NATO.. It was a tongue in cheek comment😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted July 7, 2019 Report Share Posted July 7, 2019 On 06/07/2019 at 02:36, Retsdon said: You do know of course that Guido Fawkes is nothing but a propaganda sheet for the hard-Brexit wing of the Leave campaign. As such it has no more validity as an original source of reference that does The Socialist Worker. Yes, JLR is going to invest heavily in new plant and production in the Midlands. Good. But to extrapolate from JLRs decision, as the above article tries to do, that other companies will perforce follow suit and therefore warnings about damage to British industry from a hard Brexit are just made-up sh*te to thwart the will of the electorate is deliberately deceitful rubbish. Anyway, never mind. If Johnson gets in and keeps his word (unlikely I know), it looks like a hard Brexit is coming. It'll be very interesting then though to see if Guido Fawkes and other such publications will be prepared to own the inevitable consequences of what they've campaigned so hard for, or if they'll instead try and blame Verhofstaht, the EU, May, Corbyn, the Remainers, and farmer Jones' dog, Spot. But I think we all know the answer. Strange then, that Guido Fawkes, unlike most political bloggers, has NEVER been sued! Could that be because he tells the truth? Voted the best political blog for the last 15 years! On 06/07/2019 at 02:36, Retsdon said: You do know of course that Guido Fawkes is nothing but a propaganda sheet for the hard-Brexit wing of the Leave campaign. As such it has no more validity as an original source of reference that does The Socialist Worker. Yes, JLR is going to invest heavily in new plant and production in the Midlands. Good. But to extrapolate from JLRs decision, as the above article tries to do, that other companies will perforce follow suit and therefore warnings about damage to British industry from a hard Brexit are just made-up sh*te to thwart the will of the electorate is deliberately deceitful rubbish. Anyway, never mind. If Johnson gets in and keeps his word (unlikely I know), it looks like a hard Brexit is coming. It'll be very interesting then though to see if Guido Fawkes and other such publications will be prepared to own the inevitable consequences of what they've campaigned so hard for, or if they'll instead try and blame Verhofstaht, the EU, May, Corbyn, the Remainers, and farmer Jones' dog, Spot. But I think we all know the answer. Marvellous how you can keep your finger on the button from so far away from the action? Could there be a hint of anger at not being able to get back into the country? Maybe a change of leadership / government might alter that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 Not content with having their own newspaper, today the Brexit Party have taken media matters further into their own hands and set up BrexBox, a YouTube channel presented by Brexit Party MEPs with regular panels, debates, and a promise of mischief. “Instead of relying on our friends in the media to give us a fair hearing we thought we would take matters into our own hands.” Surprisingly watchable. The first episode is online now… Source: Guido Fawkes Finally, something worth watching! No more Left wing biased garbage from the BBC and SKY news! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newbie to this Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 Full episode here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 (edited) Loving the beer in front of them instead of water, or is it apple juice ? Oops , might be champers ! Edited July 8, 2019 by Rewulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 Quote Not content with having their own newspaper Where do you get one..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 41 minutes ago, Bazooka Joe said: Where do you get one..? Free from Brexit central. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pinfireman Posted July 8, 2019 Report Share Posted July 8, 2019 5 hours ago, Newbie to this said: Full episode here Just shows you how the EU tries to buy those who oppose it.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 12 hours ago, Bazooka Joe said: Where do you get one..? They were handing them out in Bournmouth outside Debenhams at the weekend, I was given one. Not a lot in it but all very sensible, not OTT or heavily biased towards their point of view.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 It would appear that the Traitor Dominic Grieve has failed in his latest attempt to stop Brexit! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Labour position on Brexit shifting as predicted, I still doubt I'd vote for them but at least there will be some more clarity should a GE arise in the event that the new PM makes a hash of it all between now and end of October. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bazooka Joe Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 28 minutes ago, Vince Green said: They were handing them out in Bournmouth outside Debenhams at the weekend, I was given one. Not a lot in it but all very sensible, not OTT or heavily biased towards their point of view.. Cheers Vince + Pinfire.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Wonder how all the Midlands and Northern Labour constituencies that voted to leave by a significant majority, will react? 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Labour position on Brexit shifting as predicted, I still doubt I'd vote for them but at least there will be some more clarity should a GE arise in the event that the new PM makes a hash of it all between now and end of October. Could you really vote for a Labour Party lead by Jeremy Corbyn? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 5 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Labour position on Brexit shifting as predicted, I still doubt I'd vote for them but at least there will be some more clarity should a GE arise in the event that the new PM makes a hash of it all between now and end of October. Indeed , any labour voter who wants out, would have to think very seriously about continued support for a party that ignored the referendum. 1 minute ago, panoma1 said: Wonder how all the Midlands and Northern Labour constituencies that voted to leave by a significant majority, will react? 🤔 Exactly. Labour , with its unelectable leader, anti semitic and anti democratic stance, just slashed its throat by declaring for remain. Im not saying it didnt have to do one or the other, but which ever way it went , it was going to damage itself. A GE should be the last thing on its mind at the moment, because slaughter awaits it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Could you really vote for a Labour Party lead by Jeremy Corbyn? I have only voted for Labour once as a strategic vote I think around the time of Major ('92) but I struggled with that immensely. Corbyn would be a stretch too far I feel but in truth it probably depends on how bad the whole mess with Brexit gets. To say "never" is something people often regret saying and are reminded of down the line. By the same token, I don't know if the article published yesterday about the mainstream views of Conservative members is correct but if they are then they don't represent the majority of my views either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Corbyn would be a stretch too far I feel but in truth it probably depends on how bad the whole mess with Brexit gets You mean the mess of Corbyn would go nicely on top of the (possible) mess of Brexit ? Not really following the logic of that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 The Tories are rising in the polls, just as Labour are plummeting. I never thought Corbyn would ever make PM, but he is truly doomed. Ill health rumours, anti-semitism running rife, bombshell Panorama programme, gagging orders being sought (despite Labour's previous stance on these). It all adds up to a potential disaster for Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell and co. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 24 minutes ago, Rewulf said: You mean the mess of Corbyn would go nicely on top of the (possible) mess of Brexit ? Not really following the logic of that one. Brexit is already a mess, if you don't see that reality then no wonder the rest of the logic is lost on you? Based on previously dialogue though I can only assume you're jesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Brexit is already a mess, if you don't see that reality then no wonder the rest of the logic is lost on you? Based on previously dialogue though I can only assume you're jesting. Yes of course brexit is a mess, mainly because it has been very poorly managed by Remainers at EVERY level! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: Yes of course brexit is a mess, mainly because it has been very poorly managed by Remainers at EVERY level! Agreed on the first part. Let's see how it all pans out with the new regime in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Brexit is already a mess, if you don't see that reality then no wonder the rest of the logic is lost on you? Based on previously dialogue though I can only assume you're jesting. Not really , the people trying to STOP Brexit happening are causing the mess. Brexit hasnt happened yet, so you cant say its the mess of Brexit, or the tories, Farage , right wing xenophobes , illiterate Brits ect. WHEN it happens, despite the best efforts of the remain majority Parliament, you can blame any mess on BREXIT, until then lets keep the blame for the mess and indecision where it rightfully belongs, with the politicos causing it. Edited July 9, 2019 by Rewulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted July 9, 2019 Report Share Posted July 9, 2019 42 minutes ago, Gordon R said: The Tories are rising in the polls, just as Labour are plummeting. I never thought Corbyn would ever make PM, but he is truly doomed. Ill health rumours, anti-semitism running rife, bombshell Panorama programme, gagging orders being sought (despite Labour's previous stance on these). It all adds up to a potential disaster for Corbyn, Abbott, McDonnell and co. Now Lord Triesman has today resigned the Labour whip......citing institutional anti semitism in the Labour Party! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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