Rewulf Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Raja Clavata said: Not the point i was trying to make Gentlemen 😛 Maybe not , but there is a tipping point in any government, where the military could be used to restore order or democracy, or remove it.. Whilst we are miles away from such a thing happening here, would anyone here have expected these events 3 years ago ? In all honesty, can even the remainers believe it would come to this farce, when they LOST the vote ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Not the point i was trying to make Gentlemen 😛 I do understand the point, but our answers are also valid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 4 hours ago, stumfelter said: If a law is passed that we can't leave without a deal and the EU won't give us a deal then surely Brexit is finished. The country is finished! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just said on JV that the legal bid to block no deal has failed but can go to appeal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 minute ago, Mice! said: Just said on JV that the legal bid to block no deal has failed but can go to appeal. I think you mean the bid to undo the proroguing of parliament has failed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Mice! said: but can go to appeal. That was bound to happen - the judges ensuring the the lawyers pockets are well filled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 12 minutes ago, JohnfromUK said: I do understand the point, but our answers are also valid. Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRDS Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: I think you mean the bid to undo the proroguing of parliament has failed? Don't you mean the legal bid to block Parliament being Prorogued, totally different things and quite irrelevant anyway after this week. Edited September 6, 2019 by JRDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, TIGHTCHOKE said: The country is finished! The country will be fine, we are very resilient . This political system is finished though , particularly the left, mostly because they have shown themselves to be archaic hypocrites, with no coherent policies for a modern world. Watching that horrific lib dem woman screeching , and thornberrys rolling eye monotone last night , left me feeling sick to the stomach, that people like themselves actually believe they could run this country. Run it into the ground maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted September 6, 2019 Author Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Rewulf said: and thornberrys rolling eye monotone last night How can anyone have any faith in a party that says it will negotiate a wonderful new deal with the EU ............ and say before it is even started ........ but they will campaign against it? I think even Diane Abbott would have seen that one coming! Edited September 6, 2019 by JohnfromUK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpringDon Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 27 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Says the man who just spurted out a load himself <snip> I say! Is that sort of talk allowed on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 Just now, JohnfromUK said: How can anyone have any faith in a party that says it will negotiate a wonderful new deal with the EU ............ and say before it is even started ........ but they will campaign against it? I think even Diane Abbott would have seen that one coming! Beggars belief I know, like I say , no coherent policies, spend, spend, spend, lower taxes for everyone , free house for anyone that wants one, rob the rich to pay for it. Forced socialism for he UK if they get into power, which thankfully , they wont. 2 minutes ago, SpringDon said: I say! Is that sort of talk allowed on here? Wondered that as I wrote it 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestonSalop Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Beggars belief I know, like I say , no coherent policies, spend, spend, spend, lower taxes for everyone , free house for anyone that wants one, rob the rich to pay for it. Forced socialism communism for he UK if they get into power, which thankfully , they wont. Wondered that as I wrote it 😆 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 41 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Kinda ironic statement that given BoJos chief advisor. Leave aside an individuals personality, how can the purpose of someone employed in an advisory capacity, to assist the democraticly elected government deliver the democratic will of the people be criticised? Where's the irony? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 25 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: I think you mean the bid to undo the proroguing of parliament has failed? That makes more sense 👍 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 (edited) 7 minutes ago, panoma1 said: Leave aside an individuals personality, how can the purpose of someone employed in an advisory capacity, to assist the democraticly elected government deliver the democratic will of the people be criticised? Where's the irony? For real!? When all of that is attempted to be delivered undemocratically! And with Cummings it is all about the personality and his ego. All very well documented and evident from his youtube videos. And let's not forget the PM was not elected by the public and his government have no majority. Claims of a coup might be a stretch but not too far off the mark. Edited September 6, 2019 by Raja Clavata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mice! Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 It seems like a coup now given that the standing government can't do anything because they don't have a majority Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 2 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: For real!? When all of that is attempted to be delivered undemocratically! And with Cummings it is all about the personality and his ego. All very well documented and evident from his youtube videos. When anti democratic forces are at work there is nothing undemocratic in using whatever means available to deliver the democratic will of the people! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 Well I am away for the weekend without TV and internet, plenty of good beer and good food and forget all about the wastes of space that supposedly represent us! Really struggling to keep the faith! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: can even the remainers believe it would come to this farce, when they LOST the vote ? They hoped for it!! It is what they have spent 3 years doing Pretty soon we will have had world wars that was over and done in less time than this!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 19 minutes ago, panoma1 said: When anti democratic forces are at work there is nothing undemocratic in using whatever means available to deliver the democratic will of the people! Can you provide any evidence that no deal on 31st October 2019 is the democratic will of the people? 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: In all honesty, can even the remainers believe it would come to this farce, when they LOST the vote ? Nobody likes a smart ***, especially one with opposing views on Brexit, but since the 26th July 2016, whilst obviously not knowing the actual details / mechanics of it, I have believed we will not leave the EU. But no, nobody could have predicted the farce that it has descended into. With talk that the government may table a no confidence deal in itself it really is parallel universe becoming a reality... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Rewulf said: I suppose the sinn fein MPs refuse their wages too? Because they won't swear loyalty to the Crown, they aren't paid a Westminster salary They do get a salary for sitting in the Northern Ireland Assembly though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 3 hours ago, Retsdon said: Yes. But who voted for a no deal Brexit? I can't recall the leave campaign mentioning it once. That wasn't an option on the ballot paper - but its very well displayed on several social media site videos how the many turncoats assured the populace how leave really does mean leave, no ifs no buts - do I need to go find a link to a few of them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 24 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: Can you provide any evidence that no deal on 31st October 2019 is the democratic will of the people? No , can you provide evidence, labour and the 'rebels' are acting in the democratic will of the people ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave-G Posted September 6, 2019 Report Share Posted September 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said: Kinda ironic statement that given BoJos chief advisor. As someone said recently, we should be glad we are in the UK, in other countries under such strain we might be wondering which side the military are on. I think that comes a bit later when our traitor MPs have manoeuvred us into being part of the Euroarmy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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