KB1 Posted December 2, 2019 Report Share Posted December 2, 2019 I think this guy sums it up quite well………… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Has he ever been right? https://skepticalscience.com/patrick-michaels-history-getting-climate-wrong.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 So, he has a track record of being wrong, his views are diametrically opposed to the majority of scientists in the various fields relevant to climate change, statistically he has a 1 in 33 chance of being right on this. Another classic Charles Babbage moment... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said: So, he has a track record of being wrong Well according to the website stated, yes. They fail to mention that nearly every single pro global warming scientist from the early 2000s was also wrong about the rate of warming too, but that just bias for you. Go back to the early Al gore days and look at the predicted sea level rises and temperature increases, then come back and tell me how climate change is such a precise science. An inconvenient truth? Edited December 3, 2019 by Rewulf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westward Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Well, if nothing else, he is right about it being a pseudoscience. There is not one single piece of proper verifiable, repeatable, peer reviewed science that can show categorically that CO2 is responsible for climate change. I'd bet my socks that 95% of the "climate scientists" don't even know how much CO2 there is in the atmosphere or by how much it's changed over the last 70 years. It's all guesswork and subjective assumptions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Not to worry, the sun will run out of hydrogen in about 5 billion years but before that it will fry all life and boil the oceans dry in around 1 to 1.5 billion years. Time to get a move on finding a new home. To Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, old'un said: Not to worry, the sun will run out of hydrogen in about 5 billion years but before that it will fry all life and boil the oceans dry in around 1 to 1.5 billion years. Time to get a move on finding a new home. To Boldly Go Where No Man Has Gone Before. I thought the Milkyway collision with Andromeda was predicted to beat the sun to it. For me the focus on climate change should not be about establishing / apportioning blame it should be about whether or not there is anything we can do about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 11 minutes ago, Raja Clavata said: I thought the Milkyway collision with Andromeda was predicted to beat the sun to it. For me the focus on climate change should not be about establishing / apportioning blame it should be about whether or not there is anything we can do about it. No, that’s about 4.5 billion years away so it will not upset my shooting plans before the Earth fry's in 1 to 1.5 billion years from now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 52 minutes ago, old'un said: No, that’s about 4.5 billion years away so it will not upset my shooting plans before the Earth fry's in 1 to 1.5 billion years from now. Sorry, yes, realised as I posted - I missed the 1 to 1.5 billion years bit 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, Raja Clavata said: Sorry, yes, realised as I posted - I missed the 1 to 1.5 billion years bit 👍 So, do you think we will find another Earth like planet before then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
guzzicat Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Maybe the weather change has washed away all the acid rain they used to scare us with,& before that "Boney will come & get you" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retsdon Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Rewulf said: Well according to the website stated, yes. They fail to mention that nearly every single pro global warming scientist from the early 2000s was also wrong about the rate of warming too, but that just bias for you. Go back to the early Al gore days and look at the predicted sea level rises and temperature increases, then come back and tell me how climate change is such a precise science. An inconvenient truth? Here you go. https://www.carbonbrief.org/analysis-how-well-have-climate-models-projected-global-warming Or can you link to different ones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raja Clavata Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 19 minutes ago, old'un said: So, do you think we will find another Earth like planet before then? Yes but physically getting to it in time might be a challenge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 47 minutes ago, Retsdon said: Or can you link to different ones? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/ice-caps-melt-gore-2014/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 1 hour ago, old'un said: So, do you think we will find another Earth like planet before then? We wont need to. At the rate of change and with the development of AI we are more likely to advance to a cloud based rather than physical existence, way before then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Planet Earth 4.5 billion years old, Humans around 200,000 years old, Global weather records around 137 years old, think we are missing a few years of Earths weather records. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, old'un said: Planet Earth 4.5 billion years old, Humans around 200,000 years old, Global weather records around 137 years old, think we are missing a few years of Earths weather records. 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, oowee said: We wont need to. At the rate of change and with the development of AI we are more likely to advance to a cloud based rather than physical existence, way before then. Like in heaven? 😺 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 15 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Like in heaven? 😺 Don't be silly...icloud! 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 16 minutes ago, Rewulf said: Like in heaven? 😺 I don't know what that is. I was thinking of wetware or some other form of organic memory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gotgcoalman Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 Where's David Icke these days. he would have this climate change sorted in a weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rewulf Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 10 minutes ago, Scully said: Don't be silly...icloud! 🙂 Icloud in Iheaven, with ijesus 😎 10 minutes ago, oowee said: I was thinking of wetware Ya dirty bleeder 😏 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 12 minutes ago, oowee said: I don't know what that is. I was thinking of wetware or some other form of organic memory. I think Ann Summers are doing a black Friday special on those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vmaxphil Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Westward said: Well, if nothing else, he is right about it being a pseudoscience. There is not one single piece of proper verifiable, repeatable, peer reviewed science that can show categorically that CO2 is responsible for climate change. I'd bet my socks that 95% of the "climate scientists" don't even know how much CO2 there is in the atmosphere or by how much it's changed over the last 70 years. It's all guesswork and subjective assumptions. Atmosphere containes about 400 parts per million ( 0.04%) it has gone up from 300 parts per million, in the ice age it's recond to have been 200 parts per million, the poisonous level is about 50,000 parts per million 5% also there is evidence that a rise in co2 follows global warming not causing it as taken from ice samples. This is what I have gleaned from Google so take it as you please Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henry d Posted December 3, 2019 Report Share Posted December 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Westward said: ...I'd bet my socks that 95% of the "climate scientists" don't even know how much CO2 there is in the atmosphere... Wow, are you sure! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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