Old farrier Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Right chaps first seasons greetings to you 😊 as some of you know I mainly shoot games and have the odd game gun however I’m planning on a bit more sporting clays so I thought I should have a dedicated sporting clays gun (to irritate my flo) so recommend away 😊 don’t hold back 😊 looking forward to the suggestion that come all the best of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Use your game gun to start with and see how you get on with that , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Cant really see the difference. Guns are designed to hit things in the air birds or clays. If you shoot well with your game guns then use them. They do say you need the weight of a clay gun to absorb the punishment of a full days shooting but as most clay grounds insist on a max of 28grams I cant see this. I Am83 and shoot clays with a 7lb Browning with 26" barrels and I can shoot 100 cartridges with no inconvenience. Just try with what you have and enjoy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
panoma1 Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 SBS are for game O/U for clays.........I have a Browning 425 O/U sporter, I use for occasional clays and shoot well with it! First O/U I have owned in well over 55 years of shooting! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 (edited) Each to his own. But both can be used for either discipline. I shoot clays with vintage hammer guns Side by sides and an over and under. By choice I don't shoot game. Edited December 29, 2019 by DUNKS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Don’t worry about 28grm shells I’ve just changed to 24 grams and honestly can’t tell the difference Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 57 minutes ago, sam triple said: Use your game gun to start with and see how you get on with that , Shot One of my game guns Friday at clays 75/100 today 66/100 34 minutes ago, DUNKS said: Cant really see the difference. Guns are designed to hit things in the air birds or clays. If you shoot well with your game guns then use them. They do say you need the weight of a clay gun to absorb the punishment of a full days shooting but as most clay grounds insist on a max of 28grams I cant see this. I Am83 and shoot clays with a 7lb Browning with 26" barrels and I can shoot 100 cartridges with no inconvenience. Just try with what you have and enjoy. Game gun is 6 lb 4oz it’s the looks from the other competitors that’s bothering me I don’t want to look out of place 🤭 besides that not many top clay shots use a game gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterse Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Friend of mine has just gone through the same experience after many years of shooting game. He started on clays with his 28” Browning 725 game gun but has improved his sporting clays scores by going to a second hand 32” Miroku MK38 trap gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sam triple Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 If you’re serious about getting a sporter to clay shoot band ask to try a few , Keep an open mind regarding budget, make ,configuration etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Just now, sam triple said: If you’re serious about getting a sporter to clay shoot band ask to try a few , Keep an open mind regarding budget, make ,configuration etc Thanks for the reply think it’ll make things easier for clays I find it easy to pick up a gun for game shooting as a know what quarry I’m going for on the estate I’m shooting on ive a very open mind just checking with the experts before I go to get one 28 minutes ago, chesterse said: Friend of mine has just gone through the same experience after many years of shooting game. He started on clays with his 28” Browning 725 game gun but has improved his sporting clays scores by going to a second hand 32” Miroku MK38 trap gun. I’ve got a 725 game gun 32 haven’t tried it at clays yet though it’s more of a high bird gun not really for close clays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Are you settled on an o/u or would you consider a semi? You won't completely blend in but you see plenty of people using them on clay shoots. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, Mr_Nobody said: Are you settled on an o/u or would you consider a semi? You won't completely blend in but you see plenty of people using them on clay shoots. Probably a over and under and as the sign says pick up empty cases probably will be easier 👍😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Use the 725 and use more open chokes. any budget if you just need a new toy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Old farrier said: Probably a over and under and as the sign says pick up empty cases probably will be easier 👍😊 It certainly will. After initially disliking semi autos I have become a rabid convert and love my Winchester SX3 U.S. A very long gun but very fast too. Over and unders I like Browning and Miroku, although I've shot a few nice Winchesters too. I suppose it depends whether you're looking for a true competition gun or just a nice over and under. For me the best value would be something like a nice MK38, you can pick up a high grade gun for under £2k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 9 minutes ago, welshwarrior said: Use the 725 and use more open chokes. any budget if you just need a new toy To be honest daf coming up for a renewal and they always say I’ve got to many so running through them I decided I never had a clay gun or a skeet gun 😉☹️ And you know how it is with toys 😊 10 minutes ago, Mr_Nobody said: It certainly will. After initially disliking semi autos I have become a rabid convert and love my Winchester SX3 U.S. A very long gun but very fast too. Over and unders I like Browning and Miroku, although I've shot a few nice Winchesters too. I suppose it depends whether you're looking for a true competition gun or just a nice over and under. For me the best value would be something like a nice MK38, you can pick up a high grade gun for under £2k. A true competition gun no good going into it half hearted 🙂 iv got a nice over and under or two but all set up for the game shooting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danger-Mouse Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 8 minutes ago, Old farrier said: A true competition gun no good going into it half hearted 🙂 iv got a nice over and under or two but all set up for the game shooting lol I understand. However I'll have to bow out at this point as that league of gun is beyond my experience and wallet. Enjoy the new toy whatever you decide on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Just now, Mr_Nobody said: lol I understand. However I'll have to bow out at this point as that league of gun is beyond my experience and wallet. Enjoy the new toy whatever you decide on. Thanks for the input much appreciate your thoughts 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taileron Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 My 525 had several firing pin issues, back and forth it went to browning so I used my affinity for clays whilst it was away. I was down at millride shooting ground one afternoon and I met a great bunch of blokes who were all having a go with each other’s guns and had a bash with a few different types. I hit the most DTL with an ATA supersport, 32” adjustable and the most sporting with a blokes 30” beretta DT something or other. Absolutely lovely gun which he had paid 6k for if memory serves. My buddy is just buying his first clay gun so he is taking my advice ( which I learned from the generosity of a group of shooters I had never met before) Try as many as possible, one will jump out. All the best with the search👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, Taileron said: My 525 had several firing pin issues, back and forth it went to browning so I used my affinity for clays whilst it was away. I was down at millride shooting ground one afternoon and I met a great bunch of blokes who were all having a go with each other’s guns and had a bash with a few different types. I hit the most DTL with an ATA supersport, 32” adjustable and the most sporting with a blokes 30” beretta DT something or other. Absolutely lovely gun which he had paid 6k for if memory serves. My buddy is just buying his first clay gun so he is taking my advice ( which I learned from the generosity of a group of shooters I had never met before) Try as many as possible, one will jump out. All the best with the search👍 Many thanks for the information and reply I shall try a few 👍😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Old farrier said: Shot One of my game guns Friday at clays 75/100 today 66/100 Don't knock it, those 'scores' would be my misses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 15 minutes ago, wymberley said: Don't knock it, those 'scores' would be my misses. Not knocking the scores just seems to me that if I can do that with a game gun I could probably do better with a proper clay gun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 1 hour ago, Old farrier said: To be honest daf coming up for a renewal and they always say I’ve got to many so running through them I decided I never had a clay gun or a skeet gun 😉☹️ And you know how it is with toys 😊 A true competition gun no good going into it half hearted 🙂 iv got a nice over and under or two but all set up for the game shooting Nice Perazzi or Kerighoff (if you can get past the looks) if your looking a bit cheaper a Zoli or even Yildiz pro sport would be good options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old farrier Posted December 29, 2019 Author Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, welshwarrior said: Nice Perazzi or Kerighoff (if you can get past the looks) if your looking a bit cheaper a Zoli or even Yildiz pro sport would be good options Looking at the Perazzi found them a bit confusing on there Model details ill keep researching them and look at the Krieghoff any Particular one ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshwarrior Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 Perazzi I start at MX 2000 but MXS is a capable and a High Tech if you like a slightly slower handling gun Krieghoff I think the Parrcous is hard to beat but the K80s also have their followers. Worth shooting them all to decide first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted December 29, 2019 Report Share Posted December 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Old farrier said: Shot One of my game guns Friday at clays 75/100 today 66/100 Game gun is 6 lb 4oz it’s the looks from the other competitors that’s bothering me I don’t want to look out of place 🤭 besides that not many top clay shots use a game gun Hi. We obviously approach clay shooting with different attitudes. We shoot for fun and because we love the different guns. Yes there are the dedicated competition shooters at our clay ground going about their serious business in there £500 Gilets and their competition guns. Good luck to them, most are nice guys. I notice you use the word "competitors" We don't compete we just have fun and shoot with un suitable guns. BUT we don't half shoot well! Good luck with your search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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