rapid .25 Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Heads up,, just had my renewal through the post from BASC and they have stopped all concessions, big increase if your a pensioner and on credits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8 shot Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 I guess the big knobs need to swell the coffers in the pensions funds as the shares markets are going belly up. And I would think they are expecting a massive loss in membership considering there pig headedness on lead. I’ve got until October to renewal if they last that long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smokersmith Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 I'm sure that will work out perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Well, I suppose that's one way to get rid of a few old buffers and keep someone happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad93 Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 There aren’t words for what I think of BASC, what with the GP letters, then the general licence and now lead. They don’t have the interests or thoughts of their members at heart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibble Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) They still list over 65s and under 21s at reduced rates on their website? Edited March 16, 2020 by Dibble Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, Dibble said: They still list over 65s and under 21s at reduced rates on their website? And which only came into effect on 1 March 2020. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 has there always been an excess to pay? BASC is a trading name of The British Association for Shooting and Conservation and is authorised and regulated by the Financial Conduct Authority ref 311937 The insurance aspect of your membership is a non-advised sale, and includes Insurance Premium Tax BASC membership includes GBP insurance cover as follows: Up to £10m liability (public, employer and product) Up to £50,000 personal accident Up to £250,000 legal expenses * Exclusions and a £500 policy excess applies, see full policy for further information. Some categories of membership have restricted insurance , specifically Airgun and Gundog membership Supporters have no insurance cover Cover does not apply in North America or Canada To view the insurance policies, Insurance Product Information Document (IPID) and terms of Business please click here Hard copies will be sent with your new membership pack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 This is fast becoming a bash BASC site.I would sooner be with them than without them and never mind what organisation you support we would be in a sorry state without them.Look at the upcoming fight about pheasant release.Four of our organisations are getting together to fight Wild Justice in court.Without them we are all lost.Just single fighters in the wilderness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Just now, greylag said: This is fast becoming a bash BASC site.I would sooner be with them than without them and never mind what organisation you support we would be in a sorry state without them.Look at the upcoming fight about pheasant release.Four of our organisations are getting together to fight Wild Justice in court.Without them we are all lost.Just single fighters in the wilderness. we are in a sorry state with them,quite a few whinging about bashing Basc!,myself i have not seen much that Basc has done good, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Brad93 said: what with the GP letters, then the general licence and now lead. Surprised you didnt include Brexit & caronavirus as well ! Your one sided rant ignores the following: The GPs letter fiasco is directly down to some Chief Constables exceeding the Home Office guidelines on medical checks and the BMA failing to come up with guidelines on fee`s for GPs. Some of whom do not view this as NHS core business and refuse to take part in the call for GPs letters. BASC have been taking the Home Office, Chief Constables and the BMA to task over this and are trying to get all stake holders around a table to thrash the mess out. They have in the meantime set up a scheme for members to be put in touch with GPs who will produce the required letter. The General Licence fiasco was a direct result of a legal challenge by Wild Justice on a weak knee`d Board of Directors at Natural England (NE) who cancelled a selection of GLs at 48 hrs notice. Everyone was caught flat footed, not just BASC. Our represtatives in parliament didnt even know what was going on. Once the poorly worded intial GL became available, BASC fought tooth and nail to get a workable and fit for purpose licence issued; which took a move of the problem from NE to DEFRA and the intervention of Mr Gove before it was sorted out. Lead - I wont even go there. Pages & pages have been devoted to this already. All I will say is that single use plastic is in the public eye. Many if not most game shoots stipulate fibre wad only; that should tell you something. If you were unaware of the constant drive to get rid of lead, you must have your head firmly planted in the sand and were obviously waiting until goverment legislation brought an end to its use. I suppose you would then throw a tantrum that BASC failed to warn you. Edited March 16, 2020 by JJsDad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andrewluke Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, JJsDad said: Surprised you didnt include Brexit & caronavirus as well ! probably because he wants to say the truth! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greylag Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 12 minutes ago, JJsDad said: Surprised you didnt include Brexit & caronavirus as well ! Your one sided rant ignores the following: The GPs letter fiasco is directly down to some Chief Constables exceeding the Home Office guidelines on medical checks and the BMA failing to come up with guidelines on fee`s for GPs. Some of whom do not view this as NHS core business and refuse to take part in the call for GPs letters. BASC have been taking the Home Office, Chief Constables and the BMA to task over this and are trying to get all stake holders around a table to thrash the mess out. They have in the meantime set up a scheme for members to be put in touch with GPs who will produce the required letter. The General Licence fiasco was a direct result of a legal challenge by Wild Justice on a weak knee`d Board of Directors at Natural England (NE) who cancelled a selection of GLs at 48 hrs notice. Everyone was caught flat footed, not just BASC. Our represtatives in parliament didnt even know what was going on. Once the poorly worded intial GL became available, BASC fought tooth and nail to get a workable and fit for purpose licence issued; which took a move of the problem from NE to DEFRA and the intervention of Mr Gove before it was sorted out. Lead - I wont even go there. Pages & pages have been devoted to this already. All I will say is that single use plastic is in the public eye. Many if not most game shoots stipulate fibre wad only; that should tell you someting. If you were unaware of the constant drive to get rid of lead, you must have your head firmly planted in the sand and were obviously waiting until goverment legislation brought an end to its use. I suppose you would then throw a tantrum that BASC failed to warn you. Totally agree.Some people will not admit that without the right people fighting our corner we will loose everything we hold dear. All the organisations have their members requirements to heart . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid .25 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 I think you are all missing the point of this post, I was not stating what BASC have done or what BASC have not done or what BASC are about to do, I was giving pensioners on benefits the heads up that BASC have stopped there concessions, if you want to slag them off or praise them then open your own post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 When is this non concession starting from. I am/was entitled to a disability concession. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rapid .25 Posted March 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Centrepin said: When is this non concession starting from. I am/was entitled to a disability concession. It's in force now, my renewal is due and I was entitled to a disability concession. But not now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, rapid .25 said: It's in force now, my renewal is due and I was entitled to a disability concession. But not now. Ring them, ask if they are discriminating against the disabled. That's what I plan on doing. Hope it goes well for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, JJsDad said: Surprised you didnt include Brexit & caronavirus as well ! Your one sided rant ignores the following: The GPs letter fiasco is directly down to some Chief Constables exceeding the Home Office guidelines on medical checks and the BMA failing to come up with guidelines on fee`s for GPs. Some of whom do not view this as NHS core business and refuse to take part in the call for GPs letters. BASC have been taking the Home Office, Chief Constables and the BMA to task over this and are trying to get all stake holders around a table to thrash the mess out. They have in the meantime set up a scheme for members to be put in touch with GPs who will produce the required letter. The General Licence fiasco was a direct result of a legal challenge by Wild Justice on a weak knee`d Board of Directors at Natural England (NE) who cancelled a selection of GLs at 48 hrs notice. Everyone was caught flat footed, not just BASC. Our represtatives in parliament didnt even know what was going on. Once the poorly worded intial GL became available, BASC fought tooth and nail to get a workable and fit for purpose licence issued; which took a move of the problem from NE to DEFRA and the intervention of Mr Gove before it was sorted out. Lead - I wont even go there. Pages & pages have been devoted to this already. All I will say is that single use plastic is in the public eye. Many if not most game shoots stipulate fibre wad only; that should tell you someting. If you were unaware of the constant drive to get rid of lead, you must have your head firmly planted in the sand and were obviously waiting until goverment legislation brought an end to its use. I suppose you would then throw a tantrum that BASC failed to warn you. if basc are so wonderful why has david ignored my request to stump up this so called proof they did not lie then completely ignored me when i asked talk about show your guilty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Under 21 and over 65 still get discounts, always have. Analysis of Medicals , GLs and lead pretty well spot on. Believe it or not there were very few claiming the additional concession which is why it is being withdrawn. Details 're lead and cartridge manufacturing on the . BASC website clangerman if you look. But regardless of what I say you will not believe it, so there is little point in you keep asking me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 9 minutes ago, David BASC said: Under 21 and over 65 still get discounts, always have. Analysis of Medicals , GLs and lead pretty well spot on. Believe it or not there were very few claiming the additional concession which is why it is being withdrawn. Details 're lead and cartridge manufacturing on the . BASC website clangerman if you look. But regardless of what I say you will not believe it, so there is little point in you keep asking me Sorry David, where is the details re lead and cartridge manufacturing on the basc website cannot see the minutes of the meeting you had with them prior to the announcement, could you post a link please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David BASC Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 Sorry don't have access to the minutes of meetings or minute of the meetings in Westminster etc but all the info on lead is within the the dedicated lead web pages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harkom Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 hours ago, andrewluke said: we are in a sorry state with them,quite a few whinging about bashing Basc!,myself i have not seen much that Basc has done good, 👍 Absolutely Correct.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 9 minutes ago, David BASC said: Sorry don't have access to the minutes of meetings or minute of the meetings in Westminster etc but all the info on lead is within the the dedicated lead web pages Well you do work for basc so ask the person at basc who has the minutes to put them on the basc website not hard is it? honestly David the lack of transparency and honesty to this is such that I will be cancelling my DD to basc any day now you/basc never give a straight answer to a request for information. Edited March 16, 2020 by rbrowning2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJsDad Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, clangerman said: why has david ignored my request to stump up this so called proof they did not lie then completely ignored me when i asked talk about show your guilty Probably because you you spend most of your time disputing whatever facts are given to you and ranting and raving about how you have been lied to. I thought you were cancelling your membership of BASC, so I dont see why David or BASC owes you anything. If he did produce the `proof` you seem to think you are owed, what exactly, other than dispute it are you going to do with it ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted March 16, 2020 Report Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, David BASC said: Believe it or not there were very few claiming the additional concession which is why it is being withdrawn. Just because it's not being claimed by some is no reason to withdraw it for those that do claim it. Are you discriminating against me for being disabled? Are you positively stating as a disabled person I'm not as worthy to shoot as you are? Oh dear, you're opening another can of worms. BASC descrimates against disability and disabled shooters, is this really your next step and your next public statement? I really look forward to your reply! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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