wabbit warren Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 why has centrefire ammo gone up so much uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 Because the yanks are buying it all up in preparation for a civil war Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saddler Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 as per above ALSO UK lacks a decent importer infrastructure. A very small number firms swamp any smaller competition - yet the bigger firms themselves are selective on what brands of ammunition they source & deem fit to sell into their RFD/dealer chain (in a lot of cases, only bringing in those offerings which reperesent the best %age profit margins for said importer) Not enough real competition = they can charge what they want to! UK is a very small fish compared to most other countries - lots of manufacturers therefore rank us quite low down on the priority list UK lost the majority of small independent ammo makers when the handgun ban killed 90% of their bread & butter income Present exchange rates are against imports being too cheap Hazardous Goods type shipping cost is ridiculous in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walker570 Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 Not gone up here. I load all my own other than rim fire. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 During previous elections in the US any ammo was not available to "ready money". it had to do with election instability and military contracts. i read a little about it when i heard all about it on the US forums, most started to reload for shotgun and center again and some started going for weird calibres. all powder gone. 9mm, gone, .22lr hadnt been seen for eons, .38spl nope, .357M too. most "normal" calibre was unobtainable, but every now and again i was told there were some stuff on the shelves. odd calibres were always available, or sourced from somewhere, 10mm auto, .357sig. i wonder if the Chinese virus will get us to panic buy stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 Its been steadily going up last 10 years. The days of cheap milsurp are long gone. Although i homeload all my centrefire calibres i discovered my local shop is selling 38sp cheap so i bought 500 rounds recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 What gets me more than price is not being able to get the same ammo the next time you want some that's why i reload for my 243 I could never get the same stuff twice, now its starting to be a pain for my 308 I was using Winchester deer season xp (i think) got down to my last box and no one has it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, Imperfection said: Its been steadily going up last 10 years. The days of cheap milsurp are long gone. Although i homeload all my centrefire calibres i discovered my local shop is selling 38sp cheap so i bought 500 rounds recently. I have a supplier for hand gun calibers locally so that wasn't a problem last time I got some a few months ago. I just find that all my local RFDs can't or won't get what i want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbit warren Posted September 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 i use Hornady superformance varmint 53g in .223 last box i got was £23 went to my gun shop yesterday and paid £30 omg what a price hike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 7 minutes ago, wabbit warren said: i use Hornady superformance varmint 53g in .223 last box i got was £23 went to my gun shop yesterday and paid £30 omg what a price hike .223! like I said the yanks want it for their ar's! You should try 7mm weatherby mag, last lot was £4 a pop! 😱 Edited September 14, 2020 by bluesj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wabbit warren Posted September 14, 2020 Author Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 what are you shooting with a round like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovercoupe Posted September 14, 2020 Report Share Posted September 14, 2020 14 minutes ago, wabbit warren said: what are you shooting with a round like that? Dinosaurs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 8 hours ago, wabbit warren said: what are you shooting with a round like that? Not a lot of rounds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 9 hours ago, wabbit warren said: what are you shooting with a round like that? Bulls that you need to stand back a bit from! 45 minutes ago, London Best said: Not a lot of rounds. That is very true! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benthejockey Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 Sako 70gr game head 243 £1.50 a bang from Wynnstay Federal powrshok 130gr 270 £1.50 a bang. No rhyme or reason to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Imperfection Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 22 hours ago, bluesj said: I have a supplier for hand gun calibers locally so that wasn't a problem last time I got some a few months ago. I just find that all my local RFDs can't or won't get what i want. What i bought was standard Magtech 38sp,but round nose bullet which is fine for my LBR but not suitable for lever actions. It was £21 per 100 and at that price it isn't worth me homeloading so i stocked upto my hold limit (600). I even cast my own bullets but when its this cheap i'd be a fool to turn it down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 22 hours ago, wabbit warren said: i use Hornady superformance varmint 53g in .223 last box i got was £23 went to my gun shop yesterday and paid £30 omg what a price hike £21 for 50 at Mcavoy or £50 for 250. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluesj Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Imperfection said: What i bought was standard Magtech 38sp,but round nose bullet which is fine for my LBR but not suitable for lever actions. It was £21 per 100 and at that price it isn't worth me homeloading so i stocked upto my hold limit (600). I even cast my own bullets but when its this cheap i'd be a fool to turn it down. That is cheap! I think i paid £33 / 100 for 38sp lead round nose 357 mag jacketed soft points and 9mm jacketed hollow point subs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 (edited) Ive been buying .308 ammo for about £38 per hundred from HPS and it was good ammo too. PPU was a good price but thats gone up in leaps and bounds too 5 hours ago, Imperfection said: What i bought was standard Magtech 38sp,but round nose bullet which is fine for my LBR but not suitable for lever actions. It was £21 per 100 and at that price it isn't worth me homeloading so i stocked upto my hold limit (600). I even cast my own bullets but when its this cheap i'd be a fool to turn it down. Our club has sold magtech .38 RN for use in lever action rifles by the thousand. Why is it not suitable? Its not been a problem for us.? except the next lot is going to be a lot dearer? Edited September 16, 2020 by Vince Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Green Posted September 15, 2020 Report Share Posted September 15, 2020 On 14/09/2020 at 18:44, saddler said: as per above ALSO UK lacks a decent importer infrastructure. A very small number firms swamp any smaller competition - yet the bigger firms themselves are selective on what brands of ammunition they source & deem fit to sell into their RFD/dealer chain (in a lot of cases, only bringing in those offerings which reperesent the best %age profit margins for said importer) Not enough real competition = they can charge what they want to! UK is a very small fish compared to most other countries - lots of manufacturers therefore rank us quite low down on the priority list UK lost the majority of small independent ammo makers when the handgun ban killed 90% of their bread & butter income Present exchange rates are against imports being too cheap Hazardous Goods type shipping cost is ridiculous in the UK This ^^^^^^ Plus importers cannot afford the storage costs / insurance which are greater than the cost of importation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 (edited) On 14/09/2020 at 13:27, bluesj said: Because the yanks are buying it all up in preparation for a civil war Yep. Most people over here in the south are setting on 50-100k rounds. Most were bought long ago. Most of the ammo being bought now is liberals and new gun owners. But I have added a good 20k rounds to replace what I have shot lately. Edited September 16, 2020 by NoBodyImportant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoBodyImportant Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 Battle dressings, body armor is getting expensive also. Luckily I grabbed some before the price hike. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 6 hours ago, NoBodyImportant said: Battle dressings, body armor is getting expensive also. Luckily I grabbed some before the price hike. Is there a real feeling over there that you'll actually need to use this stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest cookoff013 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 nobody important lives in a different world to us. i have friends and contacts stateside. they are doing the same, stocking up on stuff. especially .22lr ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farmboy91 Posted September 16, 2020 Report Share Posted September 16, 2020 24 minutes ago, cookoff013 said: nobody important lives in a different world to us. i have friends and contacts stateside. they are doing the same, stocking up on stuff. especially .22lr ! I just wondered if it a genuine concern or people just getting wrapped in something over nothing like all the fools buying up the toilet roll over here earlier in the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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