London Best Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 1 minute ago, figgy said: I remember milk floats, the click clack of the traction motors switching. Ditchy a Renault twizzy might be a good car for you. When I was young that is what was then called an ‘invalid carriage’. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 We knew them as cripple carriages, they were driven by WW11 vets a lot locally when I were a wee lad. The Invicar, easy to park didn't rust, no worry about parkers not being a badge holder and parking in disabled spaces. I'm sure Ditchy could make a good car out of one. A pic of Hubnuts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 7 minutes ago, figgy said: I remember milk floats, the click clack of the traction motors switching. Ditchy a Renault twizzy might be a good car for you. i aint going to "pull" in that am i.............not excactley a passion wagon is it >? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 The “car” in figgy’s last post is on a 1972 reg plate........much later than what I was meaning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 This more like it London Best ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 **** off the lot of you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 You can get a 2019 Renault Zoe for that price. Probably 150+ mile real life range which is plenty for the mileage that you do. a home charger is about £450 for a standard installation but you get a government grant of £350 towards this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted November 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 6 minutes ago, AVB said: You can get a 2019 Renault Zoe for that price. Probably 150+ mile real life range which is plenty for the mileage that you do. a home charger is about £450 for a standard installation but you get a government grant of £350 towards this. thank you .............helpful answer... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 10 hours ago, moondoggy said: How do you get the car into the kitchen? Like this, I was wondering why they did that, now I know to reach the cooker socket.😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moondoggy Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 29 minutes ago, rbrowning2 said: Like this, I was wondering why they did that, now I know to reach the cooker socket.😂 Bit awkward if you live in one of those upside down houses 🤔 3 hours ago, figgy said: We knew them as cripple carriages, they were driven by WW11 vets a lot locally when I were a wee lad. The Invicar, easy to park didn't rust, no worry about parkers not being a badge holder and parking in disabled spaces. I'm sure Ditchy could make a good car out of one. A pic of Hubnuts. And the driver always had one of those boots with a six inch thick sole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Ditchman I thought you were going to get a side by side like a John Deere gator or Polaris ranger. Changed your mind? From your milage when you talk about local trips and such, electric car makes perfect sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 3 hours ago, figgy said: We knew them as cripple carriages, they were driven by WW11 vets a lot locally when I were a wee lad. The Invicar, easy to park didn't rust, no worry about parkers not being a badge holder and parking in disabled spaces. I'm sure Ditchy could make a good car out of one. A pic of Hubnuts. As a kid groups of us used to pick them up and move them around the car park. Then watch the owners look puzzled when it wasn’t where they parked it. Iirc they were powered by a 210cc villiers engine, many of which made their way onto 210cc racing karts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 Bet it was funny at the time, not for the owners though. Think your right about the engines, hubnut mentioned them when he was looking to buy and then looking for parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper682 Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 EDF doing chargers at £450. And have special EV tariff. Jasper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amateur Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 (edited) 8 hours ago, AVB said: As a kid groups of us used to pick them up and move them around the car park. Then watch the owners look puzzled when it wasn’t where they parked it. Iirc they were powered by a 210cc villiers engine, many of which made their way onto 210cc racing karts. Originally fitted with a hand-start Villiers 150cc, followed by a Villiers 197cc with a Siba Dynastart starter, then when Villiers ceased engine production, the Austrian Steyr 500cc The 197cc Villiers was often upgraded with a special barrel to 210cc for karting, but I have never heard of those hot engines being fitted to an Invacar - apart from the very special 250cc scrambler- engined one driven by Derry Preston-Cobb, the cousin of Bert Greeves who started Invacar Edited November 17, 2020 by amateur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 8 hours ago, figgy said: Ditchman I thought you were going to get a side by side like a John Deere gator or Polaris ranger. Changed your mind? From your milage when you talk about local trips and such, electric car makes perfect sense. Just depends on the length of the cable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
figgy Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 Ha ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 stick with what you know untill they have batteries that will last 200,000 miles like a diesel engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AVB Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, hawkfanz said: stick with what you know untill they have batteries that will last 200,000 miles like a diesel engine. They do already. Electric cars out there that have done 500,000 miles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawkfanz Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 which models they struggle with 300 miles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Westward Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 35 minutes ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: That's the zero emissions hoax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
udderlyoffroad Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, hawkfanz said: stick with what you know until they have batteries that will last 200,000 miles like a diesel engine. 21 minutes ago, hawkfanz said: which models they struggle with 300 miles? You appear to be conflating range with operating life. @ditchman, I'm struggling to understand why you'd want to drop £10k on an EV when by the sounds of it a £2k Fiesta would do you? You want to simplify. Currently EV's are still very much a minority pursuit. By the way, your cooker point socket is still only rated for 13 amps, and that's before you consider the practicalities of driving into the kitchen. NFN*, as it says on medical notes Yes, people for the most part, have this range issue wrong in their heads. In that, essentially the 'filling station' is at home. They might barely make 300 miles, but if you always leave the house with a full tank, that 300 miles will do you for all but the longest trips. That said, I'm not buying one. Nobody has yet built a 4x4 pickup EV that will replace my L200. There's a reason for that, drag increases with the square of speed. Towing a trailer, the range on an EV falls off a cliff - even with 'rapid charging infrastructure'. Fine for the average EV owner, but the motoring press, especially in the US, will absolutely crucify anyone daft enough to release a truck that can't do reasonable range whilst towing. *Normal for Norfolk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jasper682 Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 1 hour ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: EDF tariff from carbon neutral sources?? Jasper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted November 17, 2020 Report Share Posted November 17, 2020 58 minutes ago, jasper682 said: EDF tariff from carbon neutral sources?? Jasper. Climate change agreement carbon neutral 2050 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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