oldypigeonpopper Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 13 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, well I looked and looked but hardly a pigeon about, snow forecast tomorrow, And right on time here in the Vale, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 No snow today, just ice and thick fog. Nothing over the rape but they're in the woods over the next field. Shot 6 rats in the barn with the moderated .410 then had another recce. Crows in trees and pheasants below. Decoyed for an hour in icey rain for just one crow and a glimsp of two high pigeon. Back into the barn for two rats then home for lunch and my afternoon nap😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old'un Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 37 minutes ago, Centrepin said: No snow today, just ice and thick fog. Nothing over the rape but they're in the woods over the next field. Shot 6 rats in the barn with the moderated .410 then had another recce. Crows in trees and pheasants below. Decoyed for an hour in icey rain for just one crow and a glimsp of two high pigeon. Back into the barn for two rats then home for lunch and my afternoon nap😁 Your certainly a tryer, I will give you that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 hours ago, old'un said: Your certainly a tryer, I will give you that. Yeah, my wife says I'm trying😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 4 hours ago, Centrepin said: No snow today, just ice and thick fog. Nothing over the rape but they're in the woods over the next field. Shot 6 rats in the barn with the moderated .410 then had another recce. Crows in trees and pheasants below. Decoyed for an hour in icey rain for just one crow and a glimsp of two high pigeon. Back into the barn for two rats then home for lunch and my afternoon nap😁 Centrepin ... I admire your dedication and you deserve a good day when it come your way , You have got more than enough experience under your belt to know where to look for Pigeons and your Rape fields are like ours , devoid of any Pigeon activity , yesterday I cleaned out five I had hanging up in the garage that I had shot over the last week when I walk down the marsh in the afternoons when the Pigeons are making there way back to the marsh carr on the edge of the marshes , four of them were stuffed with Ivy berries and the other one had leaves which I couldn't identify , might well had been bits of Clover from the towns park , so until they clear the berries up we will just have to wait till they go on there last resort , the dreaded rape . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Neal Posted January 8, 2021 Report Share Posted January 8, 2021 (edited) I'm sure this massive reduction in the amount of rape in the ground has caused a big shift in where a lot of pigeons are residing. I wonder if they've either a) found a new alternative to it, or b) have started to congregate more in the areas that rape is available. Not many reports of decent bags decoying in the last month or two, some flocks reported.... I'm only guessing but I'm sure that collectively on this forum we don't have 100% coverage of all of the country... maybe a lot of pigeons have simply sneaked off to somewhere they don't get hammered? Or are they indeed getting shot in numbers, but not by people who are on here, or know people who post here to report it? The woods on our shoot are virtually devoid of pigeon. They're never heaving with them but you could at least expect a dozen or so shots if you popped out for the last hour of roosting and knew where to look. Over my Christmas break I made quite a few sorties out in the afternoons, to my usual spots plus a few reconnaissance missions to places I rarely check. There's virtually no pigeons coming in, just the odd single or pair flitting about. I walked through a block of mostly pine plantation, well over 100 acres of it, during the last hour before sunset and didn't see anything apart from one bird that pulled up to land just as I walked under the same tree. Not sure who was the more surprised, I didn't even get the gun mounted before it was too late 🙄 A very large chunk of our land is grazing. Of the arable, there's only one small field of rape I can think of and that's not getting any attention. Normally when that field has got rape sitting over winter there's dozens of pigeons sitting up in the little spinney that overlooks it, and they're up and down like a tart's drawers all day long. But at the moment, zilch! I last shot a pigeon coming home to roost on the last Saturday of November! Maybe there's been some sort of pigeon pandemic wiped a lot of them out? Coovid-20 anyone? 🚕 🚖 Edited January 8, 2021 by Jim Neal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 I have a theory. Before I retired in 2017 I was often out and about at silly O'clock walking my dogs before and after work. 0200, 0300 and such. On the field outside my house I often encountered fox and badger which was the last time I saw hedgehog also. They where never bothered by me and even the biggest badger just used to amble away from me like it had all night. So moving on four years. The trees on the field are now containing a mix of magpie, pigeon and crow. The open space i walk by some masionettes often has pigeon on the ground and the flat roofs and little balconies are infested with fat pigeon. Some balconies have mesh over to prevent landing. But taking a short cut home, all you can hear is coo, coo. Are the pigeon now becoming like the fox and badger before them dependant on waste products, bins and litter left by the uneducated or stupid. Or maybe being fed by the mad cat lady that leaves food out for the nice fox that visits her garden. Chips and pizza diet? Wood pigeons now becoming urban pigeon? Just a thought and observation, anyone else or am I way off? Maybe the pigeon just visit the countryside for there daily exercise, right to ramble? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Before I moved we used to have a lot of days out on the buses using our free bus pass's , this was ideal as I could sit upstairs on a double decker and look around the countryside without having to worry about hitting the motor in front when I took my eyes off the road , many a time I would see little signs of Pigeon life around the fields but plenty in the small towns and villages , even now our village is full of Pigeons and in our garden the Wood Pigeon easily out number any other bird around our bird tables , looking at the size of some of them you would have to be a body builder to lift a sack full of dead ones off a large field , still with the numbers I have shot of late , that is something I don't have to worry about . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dead eye alan Posted January 9, 2021 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Just got home, left at 7am in freezing fog _2c only a 4 mile drive to rape field set up with magnet and 10 dead birds in cradles and a flapper visibility about 75 yards. Expecting the fog to clear by 9am according to the weather forecast 1st hour 4 birds for 6 shots, fog getting thicker, no wind but very cold. On retrieving the shot birds I noticed that the birds on the magnet had ice on their wings and head, so stopped it and cleaned them up. Between 9am &10am another 4 birds for 4 shots, the fog cleared slightly visibility now about 100 yards not a breath of wind. 10am to 11.30 a steady flow of singles and one double adding a further 12 birds to the bag, the fog still had not cleared. 11.30 to 12 not another bird time to pack up! So a nice mourning out for my daily exercise and self isolation and a few birds for the freezer, 😄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 well done you went out and had go.you had 12 well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Good effort. Twenty pigeons in difficult conditions is a real result. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 Well done, at least you're getting some👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 nice effort have a job to find 20 in one place on my perms at the moment Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 9, 2021 Report Share Posted January 9, 2021 3 hours ago, dead eye alan said: Just got home, left at 7am in freezing fog _2c only a 4 mile drive to rape field set up with magnet and 10 dead birds in cradles and a flapper visibility about 75 yards. Expecting the fog to clear by 9am according to the weather forecast 1st hour 4 birds for 6 shots, fog getting thicker, no wind but very cold. On retrieving the shot birds I noticed that the birds on the magnet had ice on their wings and head, so stopped it and cleaned them up. Between 9am &10am another 4 birds for 4 shots, the fog cleared slightly visibility now about 100 yards not a breath of wind. 10am to 11.30 a steady flow of singles and one double adding a further 12 birds to the bag, the fog still had not cleared. 11.30 to 12 not another bird time to pack up! So a nice mourning out for my daily exercise and self isolation and a few birds for the freezer, 😄 Good result and in the conditions you were more than entitled to every one you got , we didn't have a lot of fog but it was easily the coldest morning of the Winter , ice inside and out on the windscreen and when I got moving it was minus three . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Neal Posted January 10, 2021 Report Share Posted January 10, 2021 15 hours ago, Centrepin said: I have a theory. Before I retired in 2017 I was often out and about at silly O'clock walking my dogs before and after work. 0200, 0300 and such. On the field outside my house I often encountered fox and badger which was the last time I saw hedgehog also. They where never bothered by me and even the biggest badger just used to amble away from me like it had all night. So moving on four years. The trees on the field are now containing a mix of magpie, pigeon and crow. The open space i walk by some masionettes often has pigeon on the ground and the flat roofs and little balconies are infested with fat pigeon. Some balconies have mesh over to prevent landing. But taking a short cut home, all you can hear is coo, coo. Are the pigeon now becoming like the fox and badger before them dependant on waste products, bins and litter left by the uneducated or stupid. Or maybe being fed by the mad cat lady that leaves food out for the nice fox that visits her garden. Chips and pizza diet? Wood pigeons now becoming urban pigeon? Just a thought and observation, anyone else or am I way off? Maybe the pigeon just visit the countryside for there daily exercise, right to ramble? I'm sure you're not wrong in as much as they are opportunistic when it comes to what humans accidentally or deliberately make available to them. What is in their crops tells the story I suppose. I always shoot the odd one that's full of bird table stuff, or what looks like the remnants of someone's sandwich, but I'd guess 95% contain what you'd call "natural" food. But haven't really shot many to find out lately, I'll let you know when I do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 pigeons are hitting the rape here in oxford Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Centrepin Posted January 11, 2021 Report Share Posted January 11, 2021 10 minutes ago, ant.mass said: pigeons are hitting the rape here in oxford Make hay while the sun shines 😃👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ant.mass Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 there hammering the rape now and im looking to have ago at them at the weekend 🤞 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david Paul Gag Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 On 09/01/2021 at 10:36, marsh man said: Before I moved we used to have a lot of days out on the buses using our free bus pass's , this was ideal as I could sit upstairs on a double decker and look around the countryside without having to worry about hitting the motor in front when I took my eyes off the road , many a time I would see little signs of Pigeon life around the fields but plenty in the small towns and villages , even now our village is full of Pigeons and in our garden the Wood Pigeon easily out number any other bird around our bird tables , looking at the size of some of them you would have to be a body builder to lift a sack full of dead ones off a large field , still with the numbers I have shot of late , that is something I don't have to worry about . Hi Guys and marshman I live in a small village in east Leicestershire about 10 miles away from the very green suburbs of Leicester I believe that the pigeons of today treat the suburbs and villages as an alternative to the woods Im normally driving about all the time and like you Guy always looking for pigeons looking for where they are flyting feeding / roosting My observations are that there are loads of birds about sooner or later they will start hitting the crops Im not sure whats happening in the more rural areas But as marsh man says his village is full of pigeons well my village is now almost empty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 6 minutes ago, david Paul Gag said: Hi Guys and marshman I live in a small village in east Leicestershire about 10 miles away from the very green suburbs of Leicester I believe that the pigeons of today treat the suburbs and villages as an alternative to the woods Im normally driving about all the time and like you Guy always looking for pigeons looking for where they are flyting feeding / roosting My observations are that there are loads of birds about sooner or later they will start hitting the crops Im not sure whats happening in the more rural areas But as marsh man says his village is full of pigeons well my village is now almost empty We have got rape fields on the edge of the village and at the moment they are not touched , no signs of gas guns or scarer's , now all the leaves are off the trees you can see the pigeons sitting on the bare branches , some on the roof tops , and a few sitting on the t v aerial's , the one's I have shot lately have been full of Ivy berries and don't expect any to touch the rape fields until the last of the berries are gone . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 Tomorrow I will be having an outing compliments of the lamented Jacko. It will be on rape. He is already nervous. I will report back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 32 minutes ago, JDog said: Tomorrow I will be having an outing compliments of the lamented Jacko. It will be on rape. He is already nervous. I will report back. Looking forward to the oncoming report , wrap up warm as it's due to get cold although it should stay dry .... GOOD LUCK and I hope Jacko is keeping well , are you going on the fields you kindly got the go ahead for Jacko to keep an eye on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDog Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, marsh man said: Looking forward to the oncoming report , wrap up warm as it's due to get cold although it should stay dry .... GOOD LUCK and I hope Jacko is keeping well , are you going on the fields you kindly got the go ahead for Jacko to keep an eye on ? Yes we are meeting on the 500 acres I passed onto him. I had a sneak peek on Wednesday and there were pigeons feeding heavily. They may have gone elsewhere by tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marsh man Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 3 minutes ago, JDog said: Yes we are meeting on the 500 acres I passed onto him. I had a sneak peek on Wednesday and there were pigeons feeding heavily. They may have gone elsewhere by tomorrow. 500 acres is a big area of rape to look after and should keep him happy for several weeks to come , this is where your previous knowledge of the lay of the land will be an advantage and should get both of you off to a good start . providing they stay put that is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clangerman Posted January 29, 2021 Report Share Posted January 29, 2021 14 minutes ago, JDog said: They may have gone elsewhere by tomorrow. only if you followed recon tips from the leics budgie decoyer lol look forward to the bag and banter report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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