Stephen-H Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Hi everyone is there anyone able to help me I.d this aya side by side I've attached (hopefully) the images of the serial number & Mark's on the action & barrels. Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 AYA #3...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 A side view of the action would help decide if it's a No3 or a Yeoman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry78 Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Email aya serial number they should send u information on the gun 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 (edited) Hello, Yeoman had a flat rib, number 3 concave ,well both mine did, 🤔 number 4 concave , AYA 25 was the high rib, put a pic up on barrels, looks like a number 3 ? Edited October 1, 2021 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr grumpy Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Number 4 is an ejector.number 3 a non ejector.both have concave ribs as standard but can/could be ordered with another type.yeoman had flat raised rib and could be ejector or non ejector. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Number 3 and 4 have keeper screws on the action sides, Yeoman does not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pushandpull Posted October 1, 2021 Report Share Posted October 1, 2021 Suggest you ask the importers, ASI at Snape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen-H Posted October 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 13 hours ago, enfieldspares said: A side view of the action would help decide if it's a No3 or a Yeoman. Didnt get chance to grab a picture but the action was rather plain with just AYA ARGUIRE Y ARANZABAL which I presume is the region of spain the factory was based? 13 hours ago, Gerry78 said: Email aya serial number they should send u information on the gun 👍 Thank you will check it out 12 hours ago, Mr grumpy said: Number 4 is an ejector.number 3 a non ejector.both have concave ribs as standard but can/could be ordered with another type.yeoman had flat raised rib and could be ejector or non ejector. Thanks for the reply it's a non ejector model Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 (edited) 38 minutes ago, Stephen-H said: Didnt get chance to grab a picture but the action was rather plain with just AYA ARGUIRE Y ARANZABAL which I presume is the region of spain the factory was based? Yeoman here... https://www.cfsporting.co.uk/userfiles/product_image/60926d3d04dc9-aya-yeoman-0.jpg No 3 here... https://www.drivensporting.co.uk/images/shotguns/large/100213_1.jpg The thing to notice is the way the lockwork is kept in place with what you might call screws or pins etc.. On the Yeoman it's like a traditional low cost British boxlock. A look I prefer as it is neat and simple. On the No 3 the first thing to notice is "there's a lot of slotted screw heads to be see there!" So on the Yeoman you'd need a punch to remove the lockwork on a No 3 you'll need a turnscrew. Edited October 2, 2021 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen-H Posted October 2, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 49 minutes ago, enfieldspares said: Yeoman here... https://www.cfsporting.co.uk/userfiles/product_image/60926d3d04dc9-aya-yeoman-0.jpg No 3 here... https://www.drivensporting.co.uk/images/shotguns/large/100213_1.jpg The thing to notice is the way the lockwork is kept in place with what you might call screws or pins etc.. On the Yeoman it's like a traditional low cost British boxlock. A look I prefer as it is neat and simple. On the No 3 the first thing to notice is "there's a lot of slotted screw heads to be see there!" So on the Yeoman you'd need a punch to remove the lockwork on a No 3 you'll need a turnscrew. Thank you this has cleared it up rather well its yeoman! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 hours ago, Stephen-H said: AYA ARGUIRE Y ARANZABAL AyA is short for Aguirre Y Aranzabal. From ASI (AyA's UK importer's) website "The initials AYA stand for ‘Aguirre y Aranzabal’, with the ‘y’ meaning ‘and’ in Spanish, named after the founders of the company, Miguel Aguirre and Nicolas Aranzabal back in 1917." They are made in Eibar in the Basque region of Spain. There was (at least until quite recently) still a member of the Aranzabal family involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 Do I see disc set strikers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, wymberley said: Do I see disc set strikers? You probably do. Most if not all AyAs have them. My Yeoman (basic model) had them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 It's a good gun the Yeoman. As I said I think it looks "neater" than the No 3 as I am a 100% believer that form should follow function. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted October 2, 2021 Report Share Posted October 2, 2021 its an aya no3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ditchman Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 20 hours ago, grahamch said: its an aya no3 it appears to be a non-ejector........if it is its not a #3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 1 hour ago, ditchman said: it appears to be a non-ejector........if it is its not a #3 My no3 is a non ejector, the no4 which I also have is an ejector. Its not a Yeoman, engraving is too fancy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 3, 2021 Report Share Posted October 3, 2021 12 minutes ago, grahamch said: My no3 is a non ejector, the no4 which I also have is an ejector. Its not a Yeoman, engraving is too fancy There is some guidance here, though not sure how accurate it is. http://www.shotguns.se/html/pre_diarm.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 22 hours ago, JohnfromUK said: There is some guidance here, though not sure how accurate it is. http://www.shotguns.se/html/pre_diarm.html Look at the models 3a and 4a, they are relevant for the engraving pattern. No 3 made between 1972-77. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fandango Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 If that’s the fore end on the table in the second photo…. then it’s not a number 3 as these didn’t have the pushrod catch as far as I am aware, No 3 has the lever type catch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, fandango said: If that’s the fore end on the table in the second photo…. then it’s not a number 3 as these didn’t have the pushrod catch as far as I am aware, No 3 has the lever type catch Well, the No. 3 20 bore I had certainly had a push rod and I have never seen a No. 3 without one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Just now, London Best said: Well, the No. 3 20 bore I had certainly had a push rod and I have never seen a No. 3 without one. Yes, all s/s AyAs I have known from Yeoman to Senior have all used Anson type pushrods. The O/U models I don't know well, but the O/U Yeoman and range topping Merkel copy (Models 37 and Augusta) do seem to use a (Deeley type or similar looking) catch. Not sure about the other O/U models. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Thanks John. My son in law has a Yeoman O/U. When he bought it I was unaware that a Yeoman O/U even existed! I have fired it a few times but am so disinterested in it that I honestly could not say what fore end fastening it has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnfromUK Posted October 4, 2021 Report Share Posted October 4, 2021 Just now, London Best said: Thanks John. My son in law has a Yeoman O/U. When he bought it I was unaware that a Yeoman O/U even existed! I have fired it a few times but am so disinterested in it that I honestly could not say what fore end fastening it has. I cheated and went and looked at a few pics on line! I do know that the Model 37 is a near identical copy of the Merkel 303E. Augusta is similar, but (I think) does away with the Kerstens and uses the twin under bolts only, whereas Model 37 uses both twin under bolts and twin Kerstens (as Merkel 303E). Interestingly, Merkel do a (slightly cheaper) version (203E) with the twin Kerstens only and rather less complex ejectors ........ but I don't think do a model with the twin underbolts only! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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