mossy835 Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) they just dont want us to have guns.so the harder the better not to have them. Edited February 26, 2022 by mossy835 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted February 26, 2022 Report Share Posted February 26, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scully said: Who told you this? FEO. Plymouth has consequences, as no cheif constable wants a repeat on their hands. edit to add by which I assume is the reason some have already had certificates revoked as per the fiekfsports tv channel. Edited February 26, 2022 by rbrowning2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 11 hours ago, rbrowning2 said: FEO. Plymouth has consequences, as no cheif constable wants a repeat on their hands. edit to add by which I assume is the reason some have already had certificates revoked as per the fiekfsports tv channel. Time will tell no doubt. Do you know why tickets have been revoked? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 11 years ago when my sons mum left me she moved a guy in that was clearly on roids . He lost his temper with her and beat her up badly . ( I still supported her as mates) The following year when my renewal came up . I was warned by my feo if I ever moved her back in , I would loose my sgc . I never mentioned a thing to my feo about her or the situation . They already knew . I can’t see why they need to know who’s living there as they’re fully aware anyway. 11 hours ago, rbrowning2 said: FEO. Plymouth has consequences, as no cheif constable wants a repeat on their hands. edit to add by which I assume is the reason some have already had certificates revoked as per the fiekfsports tv channel. I had follow up interviews after Plymouth as I’d only had my tickets back for 5-6 months at the time following my false arrest of assault. my feo was golden tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westley Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 Could be a problem if you live in a multi storey block though ?? 🙄 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rbrowning2 Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Scully said: Time will tell no doubt. Do you know why tickets have been revoked? No other than what is public knowledge, like Devon and Cornwall gun grab since Plymouth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgsontour Posted February 27, 2022 Author Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 20 hours ago, TIGHTCHOKE said: Why are you two getting your GPs to fill in All Occupants Forms? No GP filled in just my medical for £60 I filled in the other 2 forms, sorry for my gramma Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted February 27, 2022 Report Share Posted February 27, 2022 2 hours ago, rbrowning2 said: No other than what is public knowledge, like Devon and Cornwall gun grab since Plymouth. Thanks. Already watched that and another previous one some time ago. It will be enlightening to discover what the police reasoning is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green hornet Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 I’ve always been asked at every renewal for details of everyone who lives at my address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 25 minutes ago, Green hornet said: I’ve always been asked at every renewal for details of everyone who lives at my address. I never have, but a mate in Durham was queried about his sons ‘iffy’ acquaintance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaf70 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 Thanks for pointing this out !! I'd printed the renewal pack but not even noticed the co-occupants form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Scully said: I never have, but a mate in Durham was queried about his sons ‘iffy’ acquaintance. Perhaps they have nothing on you or your family? I would assume it is more of a confirmation of what they already know, unlikely that someone might give the game away during a grant or renewal chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mossy835 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 never been asked about it down here.and not on the web site now, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 (edited) On 26/02/2022 at 21:21, rbrowning2 said: FEO. Plymouth has consequences, as no cheif constable wants a repeat on their hands. edit to add by which I assume is the reason some have already had certificates revoked as per the fiekfsports tv channel. It wasn't the Licensing process at fault just gross negligence from the Police. I am suprised the families of the dead are not taking legal action against the Police. Edited March 1, 2022 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 On 25/02/2022 at 12:06, oowee said: Is that even legal? GDPR Yes, what part do you think isn't? I'm not debating the "is this fair", just the legality side. I'm curious what part you think may not be legal? (not looking for an argument just curious) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgsontour Posted March 1, 2022 Author Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 8 hours ago, Scully said: I never have, but a mate in Durham was queried about his sons ‘iffy’ acquaintance. I'm sure they are picking up the iffy mates via Facebook as I know they use it to get up to date pictures/profiles of persons they have lost/can't find 8 hours ago, Eaf70 said: Thanks for pointing this out !! I'd printed the renewal pack but not even noticed the co-occupants form. It ain't obvious is it! Glad you read this post tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 18 minutes ago, mgsontour said: I'm sure they are picking up the iffy mates via Facebook as I know they use it to get up to date pictures/profiles of persons they have lost/can't find It ain't obvious is it! Glad you read this post tho To be fair if they can find my ex, then can they get me the £500 she owes me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 1, 2022 Report Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 hours ago, HantsRob said: Yes, what part do you think isn't? I'm not debating the "is this fair", just the legality side. I'm curious what part you think may not be legal? (not looking for an argument just curious) See the rest of my post re the gdpr. Policy document requirements, clear open and honest process. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 14 hours ago, oowee said: See the rest of my post re the gdpr. Policy document requirements, clear open and honest process. They are asking due to a request for a firearms/shotgun licence, and as such it is part of their diligence and checks for persons that may have access to the cabinet within a property. I think that's fairly open and honest? GDPR isn't that strict that it needs to be so prescriptive of the checks that would be done. In addition you are welcome to not provide details under GDPR, but then they have a right to refuse a licence on the basis of insufficient evidence. GPDR is still fairly new and is a framework rather than heavily detailed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, HantsRob said: They are asking due to a request for a firearms/shotgun licence, and as such it is part of their diligence and checks for persons that may have access to the cabinet within a property. I think that's fairly open and honest? GDPR isn't that strict that it needs to be so prescriptive of the checks that would be done. In addition you are welcome to not provide details under GDPR, but then they have a right to refuse a licence on the basis of insufficient evidence. GPDR is still fairly new and is a framework rather than heavily detailed. Does it say that this is the reason for the request? Where is the policy document that sets out the reason for this, how the information will be used stored and evaluated? Of course thats why they want it and of course they could refuse a licence if its not provided. My point is simply that GDPR is an important protection of personal data and when I get my renewal I will push for clarification of these issues. Why would anyone allow the different forces to just do what they like? they should be held to account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 2 hours ago, oowee said: Does it say that this is the reason for the request? Where is the policy document that sets out the reason for this, how the information will be used stored and evaluated? Of course thats why they want it and of course they could refuse a licence if its not provided. My point is simply that GDPR is an important protection of personal data and when I get my renewal I will push for clarification of these issues. Why would anyone allow the different forces to just do what they like? they should be held to account. To be fair when I get asked personal data it is usually obvious most of the time, and if I ask they will tell. I am sure the police will happily give you a reason and how it will be processed, GDPR doesn't stipulate that every single bit of justification of asking is published for every request otherwise it would become cumbersome. I look forward to seeing the reply you get from your force area though, to see how they have documented this request. I'm not fighting against you even if it looks that way, I just see it differently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 36 minutes ago, HantsRob said: To be fair when I get asked personal data it is usually obvious most of the time, and if I ask they will tell. I am sure the police will happily give you a reason and how it will be processed, GDPR doesn't stipulate that every single bit of justification of asking is published for every request otherwise it would become cumbersome. I look forward to seeing the reply you get from your force area though, to see how they have documented this request. I'm not fighting against you even if it looks that way, I just see it differently. Fortunately I have a few years to wait until the next renewal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HantsRob Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 4 minutes ago, oowee said: Fortunately I have a few years to wait until the next renewal. Hopefully someone else can challenge it then! I hope they have a good reasoned reply written by someone with GDPR/DPA/PII knowledge, rather than a standard "we require this to process your application". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted March 2, 2022 Report Share Posted March 2, 2022 1 hour ago, HantsRob said: Hopefully someone else can challenge it then! I hope they have a good reasoned reply written by someone with GDPR/DPA/PII knowledge, rather than a standard "we require this to process your application". I am guessing that standard response is more likely the answer. I had no end of disagreements over land appraisals when I started out. I had different forces applying different standards and ended up with issuing a formal complaint. They tried to get it withdrawn by giving a verbal response but I insisted on ia response in writing (so that is recorded) and then received a standard response. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
discobob Posted March 16, 2022 Report Share Posted March 16, 2022 On 26/02/2022 at 16:23, TIGHTCHOKE said: You'll have to drag it kicking and screaming in to the 21st century! Steady on - they still have to get into the 20th Century 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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