Hammerite paint

[harrycatcat1]

I am about to repaint some steel garden gates that have not been done for at least 15 years and I was wondering if the PW massive had done such a job and what paint to use. Does Hammerite paint do what it says it does or is there an alternative 🤔 

I have rubbed them down but I suppose they ideally need sand blasting and spraying but that's not going to happen. 

Thanks 👍 

[oowee]

I would use something like fertan on them first. I did the side rail hangers on my Hilux with it before hameriting and 12 months later look like they have just been done. 

[Westley]

I used a wire brush in my electric drill and then 2 coats of the Aldi spray metal paint in black. 4 years on and they still look OK. Previously used black smooth Hammerite, but I did have a bit of rust to remove first, that lasted about 4 years. So far, the Aldi stuff is winning  !

[Stephen-H]

I believe / was told the aldi metal paint is actually made by hammerite but re branded as there own (classic aldi) when ever I've painted metal bench ends etc I've wire brushed them back to bare metal rubbed them down with white spirit on a rag let it dry off & then applied the metal paint / hammerite.

[harrycatcat1]

12 minutes ago, Westley said:

I used a wire brush in my electric drill and then 2 coats of the Aldi spray metal paint in black. 4 years on and they still look OK. Previously used black smooth Hammerite, but I did have a bit of rust to remove first, that lasted about 4 years. So far, the Aldi stuff is winning  !

I have some black spray paint from Lidl but thought that I might waste a lot as it's bars are far apart. I will get a picture to show what I mean.

[enfieldspares]

There are a number of alternatives to Hammerite and some (as well as Hammerite's own) are smooth. If correctly prepared I have never had any metal surface painted with Hammerite disappoint. For black metal though on fireplaces or fireplace cowlings I used black "bike pot paint" aka Granville Cylinder Black for painting motorcyle engines as it is heat resistant (but does AFAIR need some of that heat to cure). I also like the battleship grey "David's Zinc 182" paint. Given the future prediction for hot temperatures maybe that cylinder black may be an idea to consider? 

Edited July 21, 2022 by enfieldspares

[Wymondley]

Hammerite do a rust converter/primer for use before Hammerite top coat.

We used to use it on old Land Rover chassis to good effect.

[harrycatcat1]

This is one gate.

 

[Scully]

Zinsser All-Coat. Matt or gloss, water based or solvent. 👍

I use it for gutters and downspouts. 

[harrycatcat1]

4 minutes ago, Scully said:

Zinsser All-Coat. Matt or gloss, water based or solvent. 👍

I use it for gutters and downspouts. 

I reckon hammerite is water based and I've never had a deal of luck with water based paint inside never mind outside.🤔🤔

[Rewulf]

19 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said:

reckon hammerite is water based

It's not, it's synthetic. 

Personally I'd brush those gates with smoothrite, might take a bit longer, but you'll get more paint thickness  on than with aerosols. 

[harrycatcat1]

12 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

It's not, it's synthetic. 

Personally I'd brush those gates with smoothrite, might take a bit longer, but you'll get more paint thickness  on than with aerosols. 

https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-smooth-quick-dry-smooth-metal-paint-black-750ml/23091?tc=EB6&ds_kid=92700052136101401&ds_rl=1243321&ds_rl=1241687&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1245250&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8uOWBhDXARIsAOxKJ2HOBOb6uY5T_4ZUUKqAeo-fsJElz082R9Ve9qWujoWlTSs5EpZ5eVgaAjzTEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

This 🤔🤔

[old'un]

19 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said:

https://www.screwfix.com/p/no-nonsense-smooth-quick-dry-smooth-metal-paint-black-750ml/23091?tc=EB6&ds_kid=92700052136101401&ds_rl=1243321&ds_rl=1241687&ds_rl=1245250&ds_rl=1245250&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8uOWBhDXARIsAOxKJ2HOBOb6uY5T_4ZUUKqAeo-fsJElz082R9Ve9qWujoWlTSs5EpZ5eVgaAjzTEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

This 🤔🤔

Its water based, the reviews are a bit odd as the first few pages give it 4 and 5 star rating but go to page 5 and it gets some very poor reviews with a lot of 1 star ratings, having said that I have used a lot of their “no nonsense” products and found most very good.

[harrycatcat1]

18 minutes ago, old'un said:

Its water based, the reviews are a bit odd as the first few pages give it 4 and 5 star rating but go to page 5 and it gets some very poor reviews with a lot of 1 star ratings, having said that I have used a lot of their “no nonsense” products and found most very good.

Ah thanks, I only looked at the first few pages 🙄🙄🙄🙄 

Hammerite it is then 👍

[Rewulf]

44 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said:

 

This 🤔🤔

I'd go for proper hammerite branded smoothrite personally. That's not water based as its flammable. 

[Scully]

1 hour ago, harrycatcat1 said:

I reckon hammerite is water based and I've never had a deal of luck with water based paint inside never mind outside.🤔🤔

You can get All-coat in both water and solvent based. Like I said, I use it on gutters and downspouts ( the water based one ) and it’s the dogs danglies. It’s trade quality as I only use trade quality paints. It’s what I do for a living. 👍

[harrycatcat1]

8 minutes ago, Rewulf said:

I'd go for proper hammerite branded smoothrite personally. That's not water based as its flammable. 

This?

 

https://www.toolstation.com/hammerite-metal-paint-smooth/p83379?store=MB&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleshoppingfeed&mkwid=_dm&pcrid=&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8uOWBhDXARIsAOxKJ2HMTi9qhuUpwMB3n_4c1JaFwDAm4n9YRjIzB3Uwfn802ipXIMnaPnYaAuBWEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

1 minute ago, Scully said:

You can get All-coat in both water and solvent based. Like I said, I use it on gutters and downspouts ( the water based one ) and it’s the dogs danglies. It’s trade quality as I only use trade quality paints. It’s what I do for a living. 👍

Have you a link to it please 🙏 

[wyn]

Hammerite has gone downhill over the last 10-15 years and is now a bit rubbish.

Rustoleum seems pretty good.

[Scully]

27 minutes ago, harrycatcat1 said:

This?

 

https://www.toolstation.com/hammerite-metal-paint-smooth/p83379?store=MB&utm_source=googleshopping&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=googleshoppingfeed&mkwid=_dm&pcrid=&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8uOWBhDXARIsAOxKJ2HMTi9qhuUpwMB3n_4c1JaFwDAm4n9YRjIzB3Uwfn802ipXIMnaPnYaAuBWEALw_wcB&gclsrc=aw.ds

Have you a link to it please 🙏 

Give it a Google, there’s loads come up. 👍Your local trade centre should have the full range of Zinsser products. 

[Ferretlurcher1970]

Rustoleum every time. You can brush or roller. Always use at work now. Never hammerite you will end up putting on lots of coats about as much coverage as milk. Rustoleum two coats perfection, some of the jobs I have painted have been in salt water and abused still look good 

[Down South]

Blackfriar paint for metal. Wire brush off, no primer required, 2 brush coats gives a lovely finish. Lasts well too.

[Ferretlurcher1970]

Tried that ,still rustoleum 

Not cheap but buy cheap. Buy twice 

[Westley]

Seeing the gate, I would agree that there is likely to be a lot of waste using a spray. I would agree with the brush on smoothrite. 

[51/50]

Teamac Marine Gloss,it's a brush-on modified long oil alkyd marine coating & the price won't have you sweating like a pox doctor's clerk.

[harrycatcat1]

Thanks to everyone for your recommendations I will have a look at all of them. I was going to paint it today but it's been raining since early doors. It will give me time to decide the paint for me.

Thanks again 👍