samboy Posted October 8, 2022 Report Share Posted October 8, 2022 Hi gang. Can anyone on here explain to me why the above are a bad company to deal with ?. Thanks all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 8, 2022 Report Share Posted October 8, 2022 I have 2 an FAC Air Ranger and a Red Wolf and have found them fine, they even repaired a magazine FOC for me. Both guns are superbly accurate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tonyshooter Posted October 8, 2022 Report Share Posted October 8, 2022 I have a .22 FAC Daystate Harrier that I have had from new. It was bought direct from them over 25 years ago, when Don Lowndes and Ken Gibbon were involved with the company. It has has 3 full factory services during my ownership and as a company I cant praise them enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) Hello, from what I read on airgun forums many find poor customer service, some have been lucky to buy a daystate rifle that has been fault free from new others have to send back, are you thinking to buy a daystate air rifle, I think they have a 3 year warranty so buying new would be favourite unless it is transferable Edited October 9, 2022 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyn Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 I have an Air ranger That " exploded" in the gun cabinet. The air bottle spigot broke off.....wrecked the stock, fired the shroud and moderator into the top of the cabinet bending the shroud and caving the end of the moderator in. It was 5 years old at the time and no spare parts available.....Had to make new parts myself. It wasn't too bad before it went "bang" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miki Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 They were quite a reasonable company when they were Brocock, British engineering and quality product. However in the lead up to the sale and ever since, their arrogance has known no bounds. Customer service is poor to non existent (they wont talk to end users), rifles are riddled with problems and issues, many caused by poor workmanship and cheap materials yet they still think they are the bees-knees. Now they are owned by Diana who were always aimed at the bottom end of the market, the legacy of build em cheap and stack em high has erroded their quality but not dented their feeling of superiority. Daystate/Diana also own MTC (rifle scopes) - and are the same 🤮 Daystate now = overpriced (IMHO) - to be avoided. Yes I bought one and Yes I had issues and Yes they pi$$ed me off. I think BSA (Gammo) and/or AirArms (NSP Limited) are much better, along with Weihrauch - they can't be any worse.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
samboy Posted October 9, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 I was only curious as to something i put on here a couple of weeks ago about Daystate. But if i do buy a new air rifle it will be an Air Arms S510. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 3 hours ago, samboy said: I was only curious as to something i put on here a couple of weeks ago about Daystate. But if i do buy a new air rifle it will be an Air Arms S510. Good choice 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TommoTomson Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) I think any answer you'll get is subjective to ones own opinion/experience. I much prefer the mechanical models purely down to my belief that there is less to go wrong. That being said I have used a friend's Redwolf and it was phenomenally accurate. I've owned a few, both new and used (Huntsman Mk2, PH6 and currently X2 FAC) and had no issues. I do also like my AA S400 though. Should also say that I've never had any direct dealings with Daystate themselves. I'm lucky enough to live not far from Dave at Staffordshire Custom Rifles and he does any tweaks or servicing Edited October 9, 2022 by TommoTomson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weihrauch17 Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TommoTomson said: I think any answer you'll get is subjective to ones own opinion/experience. I much prefer the mechanical models purely down to my belief that there is less to go wrong. That being said I have used a friend's Redwolf and it was phenomenally accurate. I've owned a few, both new and used (Huntsman Mk2, PH6 and currently X2 FAC) and had no issues. I do also like my AA S400 though. Should also say that I've never had any direct dealings with Daystate themselves. I'm lucky enough to live not far from Dave at Staffordshire Custom Rifles and he does any tweaks or servicing My Red Wolf is a 177 sub 12 ft lb, it is so accurate that it is almost boring to shoot if that makes sense. It is an amazing air rifle. At 10 years old my Air Ranger sprung a leak and it went back for a service through my RFD and it came back better than ever. I can only speak as I find. Edited October 9, 2022 by Weihrauch17 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Longbower Posted October 9, 2022 Report Share Posted October 9, 2022 I always desired a Huntsman , and was thrilled when I could eventually afford a Regal FAC. There were so many little annoyances with it, I was pleased to trade it in for a much better rifle. A BSA Scorpion se FAC. My very humble opinion . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEINVISIBLESCARECROW Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 I've owned a PH6 that was fault free & now own a Harrier also fault free. Never had to deal with the company myself but after reading comments it would seem the older the better quality. To be fair a lot of companies have poorer quality nowadays. Seems the norm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
222mark Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 On 08/10/2022 at 19:52, samboy said: Hi gang. Can anyone on here explain to me why the above are a bad company to deal with ?. Thanks all. Ring them up and you will find out. An automated message asks you if you are trade or a private customer. when you tell them you are private it says contact your local Daystate dealer we don't deal with private customers. That's shocking. Sold my Daystate on the back of that. At least Air Arms have a decent customer service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 11, 2022 Report Share Posted October 11, 2022 (edited) 5 hours ago, 222mark said: Ring them up and you will find out. An automated message asks you if you are trade or a private customer. when you tell them you are private it says contact your local Daystate dealer we don't deal with private customers. That's shocking. Sold my Daystate on the back of that. At least Air Arms have a decent customer service. That's because your contract ,when you buy a gun. is nothing to do with Daystate, it's with the dealer. I thought Daystate were owned by Sabbati? They dont make guns BTW, they assemble them from parts manufactured wherever they can buy them cheapest, not a great recipe. The marque is regarded as the Dogs Danglies but for the price they charge there are far too many horror stories of poor QC, couldn't wait to get rid of mine, twice the price of an AA but nowhere near the quality/performance. Edited October 11, 2022 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DUNKS Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 I have an original Huntsman classic, never has missed a beat. Lovely accurate gun. After buying it new i contacted Daystate and asked about obtaining "O" rings "just in case" Lady said she would look into it and took my address, few days later i rec'd in the post a full set FOC. I still have them unused. Such a shame "if the tales are true" that Daystate has gone downhill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
222mark Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 17 hours ago, bruno22rf said: That's because your contract ,when you buy a gun. is nothing to do with Daystate, it's with the dealer. I thought Daystate were owned by Sabbati? They dont make guns BTW, they assemble them from parts manufactured wherever they can buy them cheapest, not a great recipe. The marque is regarded as the Dogs Danglies but for the price they charge there are far too many horror stories of poor QC, couldn't wait to get rid of mine, twice the price of an AA but nowhere near the quality/performance. I wanted some technical information at the time i phoned Daystate. Air Arms will bend over backwards to help you. I don't think it's nothing to do with a contract's, they just seem to have a bad attitude. Like you i couldn't wait to get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 12, 2022 Report Share Posted October 12, 2022 1 hour ago, 222mark said: I wanted some technical information at the time i phoned Daystate. Air Arms will bend over backwards to help you. I don't think it's nothing to do with a contract's, they just seem to have a bad attitude. Like you i couldn't wait to get rid. I bought a MK3 not long after they came out, from memory they were the first Air Rifle with a RRP of £1k+. Rang Daystate with the serial number and actually spoke to Tony Belas, he assured me that my intended purchase was genuine and added that it was one of a batch fitted with LW Match grade barrels the best, in fact, that Daystate had bought to date. Gun duly purchased, to be fair it was accurate (but no more than my 2 AA S410's) and the trigger was sublime (best I've ever used) but problems arose when you held the gun upwards, as if following a Squirrel, and operated the bolt - pellets would fall backwards into the action and jam everything up. That would be your days shooting over as you had to strip the action to remove the pellet, this happened several times to me and ,following another call to Daystate, I found that this was a known fault, but they tried to tell me that pointing a gun upwards whilst cocking it was dangerous!!!! After a couple of visits to the gunshop, to clear a jam, I decided to strip the gun myself next time and was shocked at the build quality, some of the turned parts looked like Mr Magoo had machined them. Totally unacceptable quality and customer service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Hello, I met Tony Belas at a game fair, is he still working for daystate, ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miki Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 https://uk.linkedin.com/in/tony-belas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, miki said: https://uk.linkedin.com/in/tony-belas Hello, looks like he's still there, I see daystate have a new air rifle called the Ghost 🤔 it's online from today , Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
villaman Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Had daystate and will never buy another one . Over priced , over ratted **** to put it politely. Daystate as a company is even worse, lies , lies and lies . I can remember tb saying we don’t need regulators in our guns , Harper valve is better , ok so why do you fit regs now . What a clown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruno22rf Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, villaman said: Had daystate and will never buy another one . Over priced , over ratted **** to put it politely. Daystate as a company is even worse, lies , lies and lies . I can remember tb saying we don’t need regulators in our guns , Harper valve is better , ok so why do you fit regs now . What a clown So, you're on the fence then..... Edited October 13, 2022 by bruno22rf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chrisjpainter Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 It's always a similar story with Daystate. If it's a regular service, great. If it's something you've done that was dopey, they're fine. But as soon as there's any accusation that the problem is the gun and not the owner, their customer service is shocking. I've had an Air Ranger, a mk4 and an Air Wolf and I'm done with them now. They make some of the nicest looking rifles on the market, but the manufacturing quality is just not up to scratch. So the likelihood is that something will go wrong with it, but they'll still blame you. My HW110 was considerably cheaper and much more reliable than any of the Daystates. It's no less accurate either. It's not the best looking of guns, but when it comes to it, I enjoy shooting something that works a lot more than something that doesn't! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
222mark Posted October 13, 2022 Report Share Posted October 13, 2022 Doesn't seem to be a big Daystate fanclub. It's nice to see people have finally seen through them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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