feeding Feeding pigeon to dogs

[Maccarjm]

Wondering if anyone else feeds their dogs pigeon ?

My dog loves it when cooked, however I’m concerned about her consuming lead shot. I do try to throughly check the meat I give her, however can’t always be certain I get every pellet.

 

Thoughts ??

[mgsontour]

When I breast out any bird, dogs always get a raw treat.  Make sure if you notice an entry of a pellet you also look for the corresponding exit hole if not the pellet is still in there

[Docleo]

If you're concerned, why not using steel? 

[humperdingle]

Cut the meat in to thin enough slices and you will easily detect any shot that might be left 👍

[Scully]

54 minutes ago, Docleo said:

If you're concerned, why not using steel? 

This. Lead will kill ferrets, so I only feed them vermin shot with steel. I still have a thorough search for shot however. 

[12gauge82]

If worried you've missed any, I'm sure a wand style metal detector could be bought quite cheaply.

[snow white]

What for lead shot where you going to get one of them 

[12gauge82]

4 hours ago, snow white said:

What for lead shot where you going to get one of them 

I've had a look on Google and you can pick up a wand style metal detector (like you get in an airport) for as little as 10 pounds, not sure that would be sensative enough but I'm sure a decent one would be, lead is a very dense metal.

[snow white]

Don’t think lead is detectable on that sort of device 

[12gauge82]

26 minutes ago, snow white said:

Don’t think lead is detectable on that sort of device 

Interesting, I always assumed metal detectors worked by bouncing some form of wave (like sonar or something), a quick Google after reading your post reveals it works via magnetic propertys, with lead obviously being low, although I've read that lead is now detectable so I'm sure the right detector would pick shot up, whether a cheap one or not would I don't know. Im sure someone with far more knowledge than I, or a manufacturer could confirm.

[snow white]

Let’s see if someone more knowledgeable is reading this because I was under the impression that lead doesn’t show up if you watch the game and wildlife programs on tv the game wardens check the cartridges with a magnet to see if using steel as it picks up.

 

[Stonepark]

2 hours ago, snow white said:

Let’s see if someone more knowledgeable is reading this because I was under the impression that lead doesn’t show up if you watch the game and wildlife programs on tv the game wardens check the cartridges with a magnet to see if using steel as it picks up.

 

Neither are tungsten, Bismuth, Copper or Silver magnetic.

If on the otherhand, you nickel plate lead, it will show up as magnetic.

 

Edited April 27, 2023 by Stonepark

[Maccarjm]

On 25/04/2023 at 15:48, humperdingle said:

Cut the meat in to thin enough slices and you will easily detect any shot that might be left 👍

Shall do this going forward, cheers 

[Sweet11-87]

personaly id not give it a second thought. i could be wrong but id imagine dogs operate under the same premis as us. the odd piece of lead shot will be fine as it will go through them so quick it wont do any harm.  not like they grind it up in a gizzard or anything.

 

 

[loriusgarrulus]

The bigger more expensive metal detectors will detect lead, mine does. Old battle sites are popular for detecting lead ball shot. I don't know if you would get a small cheap wand type to detect lead shot.

[Stonepark]

12 minutes ago, loriusgarrulus said:

The bigger more expensive metal detectors will detect lead, mine does. Old battle sites are popular for detecting lead ball shot. I don't know if you would get a small cheap wand type to detect lead shot.

Used to have fun watching metal detectorists getting excited on field next door to an old wood with a rookery (adjacent a historic site), finding nowt but my catapult ammo that had been shot at the crows etc, both 9mm steelies and 38 cal lead balls and they were finding both.

[Rob85]

37 minutes ago, loriusgarrulus said:

The bigger more expensive metal detectors will detect lead, mine does. Old battle sites are popular for detecting lead ball shot. I don't know if you would get a small cheap wand type to detect lead shot.

Theres an old battle site from the 1798 United Irish men rebellion less than a mile from me, my dad has dug up a huge amount of shot from the English Brown Bess muskets and  grapeshot from the cannons.