discobob Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 55 minutes ago, old man said: There must be destruction from within? Not from within - from above - UN/WHO/WEF - but yes - being enacted by our governments.... with our money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old man Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, discobob said: Not from within - from above - UN/WHO/WEF - but yes - being enacted by our governments.... with our money Of course, whatever gave us the idea that they were elected to serve our best interests?We are such fools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Hello, this was on question time, I thought, look what happened in Germany when the gave 1 million illegal immigrants right of entry, 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 4 hours ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Hello, this was on question time, I thought, look what happened in Germany when the gave 1 million illegal immigrants right of entry, 🤔 A good outcome by accounts. Of course some difficulties at margins but 50% in work paying taxes. 10000 at university. All part of the largest economy in EU. What's not to like? Pity that a quota system could not be agreed across the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncher Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, oowee said: A good outcome by accounts. Of course some difficulties at margins but 50% in work paying taxes. 10000 at university. All part of the largest economy in EU. What's not to like? Pity that a quota system could not be agreed across the EU. That’s 400,000 not in work! Doesn’t seem like a good deal to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 14 minutes ago, oowee said: A good outcome by accounts. Of course some difficulties at margins but 50% in work paying taxes. 10000 at university. All part of the largest economy in EU. What's not to like? Pity that a quota system could not be agreed across the EU. See if the victims families of all the terrorist attacks agree with your view of being a good outcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 30 minutes ago, oowee said: A good outcome by accounts. Of course some difficulties at margins but 50% in work paying taxes. 10000 at university. All part of the largest economy in EU. What's not to like? Pity that a quota system could not be agreed across the EU. Maybe so but it is that margin the German resident find difficult 🤔 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 48 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said: See if the victims families of all the terrorist attacks agree with your view of being a good outcome. There were certainly some difficulties (even where the crimes reported were not associated with the 2015 influx) however in 2020 crime in Germany was at an 18 year low. Some of this stuff of course whipped up by the racist media and twits like Tramp and Forage. How are we doing here in UK with our lack of policy or process? 31 minutes ago, oldypigeonpopper said: Maybe so but it is that margin the German resident find difficult 🤔 We all find those at the margins a challenge. What we need is a pro family, government to increase the population to pay for our lifestyle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon R Posted June 30, 2023 Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 Is the crime rate in Sweden at an 18 year low? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted June 30, 2023 Author Report Share Posted June 30, 2023 3 hours ago, oowee said: There were certainly some difficulties (even where the crimes reported were not associated with the 2015 influx) however in 2020 crime in Germany was at an 18 year low. Some of this stuff of course whipped up by the racist media and twits like Tramp and Forage. How are we doing here in UK with our lack of policy or process? We all find those at the margins a challenge. What we need is a pro family, government to increase the population to pay for our lifestyle. I think your missing the point, there were many terrorist atrocities that were conducted by people who wouldn't have been in Germany to carry them out had it not been for Merkles unmandated policy. Every life lost, person maimed and family ruined to those unvetted terrorists was one to many. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 8 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: I think your missing the point, there were many terrorist atrocities that were conducted by people who wouldn't have been in Germany to carry them out had it not been for Merkles unmandated policy. Every life lost, person maimed and family ruined to those unvetted terrorists was one to many. Many? Which ones were they? Allowing or not allowing migration is no remedy for stopping acts of terror much of which is home grown. Unfortunately much of the media is happy to fan the flames of bias and play to prejudice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
team tractor Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 After seeing my own town getting destroyed by illegal immigrates I just think it’s disgusting what’s happening. we had a stabbing last week by a few afghan immigrants next to the 1 of 3 hotels in our town full of immigrants. people are constantly saying how there kids are being robbed or threatened at knife point by them. I love to go riding with my kids but I’m starting to question my own safety in our beautiful town . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted July 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, oowee said: Many? Which ones were they? Allowing or not allowing migration is no remedy for stopping acts of terror much of which is home grown. Unfortunately much of the media is happy to fan the flames of bias and play to prejudice. Your conflating two issues, we're discussing illegal migration, not legal. As for which terrorist attacks, it's a good point, as its not just terrorism, but mental illness and other crimes by people who shouldn't have been there in the first place. How you can say not allowing illegal migration is no remedy for attacks when they literally wouldn't happen if they weren't there. Your right media is bias as it often plays down or under reports incidents involving migrants. 50 minutes ago, team tractor said: After seeing my own town getting destroyed by illegal immigrates I just think it’s disgusting what’s happening. we had a stabbing last week by a few afghan immigrants next to the 1 of 3 hotels in our town full of immigrants. people are constantly saying how there kids are being robbed or threatened at knife point by them. I love to go riding with my kids but I’m starting to question my own safety in our beautiful town . I'm sure that incident wasn't widely reported. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) This is what we should be doing, well done Greece https://youtu.be/EjCYHirlT9k Edited July 1, 2023 by johnphilip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 3 hours ago, johnphilip said: This is what we should be doing, well done Greece https://youtu.be/EjCYHirlT9k Can you see that happening here ?> I honestly think they could crew boats with fed up folk to help send them back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted July 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 20 minutes ago, Bigbob said: Can you see that happening here ?> I honestly think they could crew boats with fed up folk to help send them back Not unless we vote for a party that doesn't care if the EU, France and Germany call the UK names for doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnphilip Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 57 minutes ago, Bigbob said: Can you see that happening here ?> I honestly think they could crew boats with fed up folk to help send them back Once our coastguards were employed to protect our coasts , now its a glorified taxi service . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scully Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 Just saw a tabloid headline in a local shop…‘Tories considering a referendum on immigration’. 🤷♂️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbob Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 3 hours ago, 12gauge82 said: Not unless we vote for a party that doesn't care if the EU, France and Germany call the UK names for doing it. 2 hours ago, johnphilip said: Once our coastguards were employed to protect our coasts , now its a glorified taxi service . You want to get a few Scots down there to man the boats see what we did to the Glasgow Airport Terrorists LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 3 hours ago, Fargo said: Fact is majority of terrorism Europe wide has been caused by migrants whether illegal or through an unfit system of entry. Where is your evidence for this? The rest of your post is simply a racist rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 42 minutes ago, oowee said: Where is your evidence for this? The rest of your post is simply a racist rant. You may love em but rest of europe doesn’t much.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 (edited) 57 minutes ago, oowee said: Where is your evidence for this? The rest of your post is simply a racist rant. You may love em but rest of europe doesn’t much.. Nice attack? Manchester bomber? Paris attacks? Brussels attack? Edited July 1, 2023 by Fargo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oowee Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, Fargo said: You may love em but rest of europe doesn’t much.. Nice attack? Manchester bomber? Paris attacks? Brussels attack? Norway bombings? So no evidence then. Just more assumption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted July 1, 2023 Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 2 minutes ago, oowee said: So no evidence then. Just more assumption. What evidence do you need? Just look at whom they where and where from. Hungary for example DOESNT have terror attacks as it doesn’t put up with certain people and moves them on creating a safe environment for their citizens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12gauge82 Posted July 1, 2023 Author Report Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, oowee said: Where is your evidence for this? The rest of your post is simply a racist rant. While I believe the west has far bigger problems than illegal migrants and I certainly don't blame the individuals coming, but our government for allowing the situation. I don't believe it racist to say, integration is in large areas of the country failing. With some cultures having an idoligy quite incompatible with the west, particularly around women's rights, gay rights and tolerance of others religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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