London Best Posted November 2 Report Share Posted November 2 1 hour ago, grahamch said: Used to have an Alex Martin Caledonia 20 bore weighing 5.25 pounds and use 7/8 no7 Hull High Pheasant through it for years. Everything from snipe to greylags One of my best friends has an Alex Martin 20 BLE. A lovely, lovely thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamch Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 23 hours ago, London Best said: One of my best friends has an Alex Martin 20 BLE. A lovely, lovely thing. Yes mine was a beauty but then I sold it - regretted it ever since! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sussex_foxing Posted November 3 Report Share Posted November 3 I always found the Eley VIP to be quite smooth shooting! Had one box of zenith through my SBS and they had a bite on them! 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrowningDJC Posted November 4 Report Share Posted November 4 (edited) The RC sipe 26 gram would still be very punchy in a SxS. I would try Hull High Pheasant 25 gram or Eley Grand Prix My eldest son shoots RC ‘low recoil’ clay cartridges, 24 gram 7.5’s which are a UK 7. Could be worth a try. Edited November 4 by BrowningDJC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arley Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 Used some 25gm Hull no 6 this week on good Partridge and very happy with the performance through an AYA side by side Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wymberley Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 On 02/11/2024 at 10:35, Lloyd90 said: I was told this AYA is cylinder and 1/2, the cheap choke gauge I picked up shows cyl and cyl but I also checked it against my SP 20 bore and it’s not consistent with any of the chokes on that either. If this has a hole in the end for, say, a split ring then their only real use is as a fishing weight. In view of the "cyl and cyl" it might just pay to get the barrels/chokes checked as never mind the figures there is a train of thought that the '40' for TC is simply to keep things neat. Most TC barrels which throw a 40% pattern more often than not have a couple of thou' of choke; those that don't haven't and are a truly TC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 41 minutes ago, wymberley said: If this has a hole in the end for, say, a split ring then their only real use is as a fishing weight. In view of the "cyl and cyl" it might just pay to get the barrels/chokes checked as never mind the figures there is a train of thought that the '40' for TC is simply to keep things neat. Most TC barrels which throw a 40% pattern more often than not have a couple of thou' of choke; those that don't haven't and are a truly TC. Thanks, I sent it back, waste of time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 3 hours ago, Arley said: Used some 25gm Hull no 6 this week on good Partridge and very happy with the performance through an AYA side by side What choke is it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arley Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 Quarter and a tight half, birds folded if i did my bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 I’m going to give Hull 25g 6 or Eley Grand Prix 25g 6’s a go I reckon. I’ll see what the local shops have in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilts#Dave Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 Hull High Pheasant 25g, cracking little shell and not too thumpy. I use the 23g in my 28bore a lot and they don’t half kill well and barely any recoil (silver pigeon), light gun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 1 hour ago, Lloyd90 said: I’m going to give Hull 25g 6 or Eley Grand Prix 25g 6’s a go I reckon. I’ll see what the local shops have in. I know that some people will swear by the Eley Grand Prix. Each to their own. However, I spent my time swearing AT them….! I tried a box on pigeons during the summer and found them to be awful. I don’t usually mind what velocity cartridges have - within reason. However these were so slow that I had to give extra lead. I’ve never experienced that before. They didn’t even sound very loud - no umph. I got the impression I may as well have been chucking a hand full of pellets at the pigeons. The next day I went back to my usual Hull cartridge and they worked as a cartridge should. Instant kills and very smooth. P.S I would recommend other Eley cart’s, just not a big fan of the Grand Prix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 10 minutes ago, Fellside said: I know that some people will swear by the Eley Grand Prix. Each to their own. However, I spent my time swearing AT them….! I tried a box on pigeons during the summer and found them to be awful. I don’t usually mind what velocity cartridges have - within reason. However these were so slow that I had to give extra lead. I’ve never experienced that before. They didn’t even sound very loud - no umph. I got the impression I may as well have been chucking a hand full of pellets at the pigeons. The next day I went back to my usual Hull cartridge and they worked as a cartridge should. Instant kills and very smooth. P.S I would recommend other Eley cart’s, just not a big fan of the Grand Prix. I think I’ll try and stick with the Hull 25g 6 then, I use their 28/30g 5/6’s in my 20 bore OU and rate them highly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Best Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 1 hour ago, Fellside said: I know that some people will swear by the Eley Grand Prix. Each to their own. However, I spent my time swearing AT them….! I tried a box on pigeons during the summer and found them to be awful. I don’t usually mind what velocity cartridges have - within reason. However these were so slow that I had to give extra lead. I’ve never experienced that before. They didn’t even sound very loud - no umph. I got the impression I may as well have been chucking a hand full of pellets at the pigeons. The next day I went back to my usual Hull cartridge and they worked as a cartridge should. Instant kills and very smooth. P.S I would recommend other Eley cart’s, just not a big fan of the Grand Prix. Millions of dead birds over the last 120+ years would disagree with you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellside Posted November 10 Report Share Posted November 10 2 minutes ago, London Best said: Millions of dead birds over the last 120+ years would disagree There might have been millions more dead birds if they were any good…!! I don’t usually mind most cartridges - within reason - but these were unusual shall we say…..? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear68 Posted November 18 Author Report Share Posted November 18 I've been using Hull High Pheasant 25gm 6's since I started this thread and I'm very happy with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldypigeonpopper Posted November 18 Report Share Posted November 18 (edited) Hello, When i sell my 12g cartridges i am looking at some Fioochi GFL 25g 6 shot Fibre in 20b from Just Carts . Edited November 18 by oldypigeonpopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted November 19 Report Share Posted November 19 (edited) What's the latest from our SD member with his 5lb 10oz 20 bore AYA? Edited November 19 by enfieldspares Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIGHTCHOKE Posted November 20 Report Share Posted November 20 14 hours ago, enfieldspares said: What's the latest from our SD member with his 5lb 10oz 20 bore AYA? Who was that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 On 19/11/2024 at 19:24, enfieldspares said: What's the latest from our SD member with his 5lb 10oz 20 bore AYA? Me? I bought the gun for my use but also a youth gun for my nephew (and hopefully one day my daughter). I had one of the lads square off the end of the butt pad, and we bought 2x kick-eez pads, one which brings the LOP to about 14 1/2 and another that makes the gun about 13 3/4 LOP. I shot today due to a fellow gun cancellation and as such haven’t had chance to pick up the hulk carts. I shot NSI sipe 28g 6’s which were manageable in the gun (I imagine the kick-eez helped). Lovely little gun and I took 7 pheasants for 15 shots on our little syndicate day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
enfieldspares Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 LLOYD 90. That's a handsome looking gun. Looks all the part. Very nice on the eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lloyd90 Posted November 30 Report Share Posted November 30 Thank you was good to see it does the business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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