Most people do 2nd 3rd jobs to make ends meet , are MPs doing the same 🤔🤔

[ditchman]

32 minutes ago, armsid said:

Coventry my home town as was you could leave work walk down the road at lunch time and get another job easily but as the vote to join Common Market came about jobs started to disappear and not replaced  with the same level of labour and skills .Wages topped up with U C benifits paid at a  level which made it uneconomical to work we rely on imports so where is the cash coming from with house prices and other costs were not so high needing 2 incomes to survive

the money that should be there ...is now being spent on "new esentials"..........big sky package monthly payments...I-phone package....eating out or buying in 5 times/week...buying new posh funiture on credit....same with dishwasher....cooker....tumble dryer...car..(expensive)....gaming concels....game cassetts...expensive bloody trainers.........

all of these and more are considered to be the essentials of life............

just work out how much all that is costing....................i hate credit....18mths ago was the first time i bought a new sofa...and a new fridge...and a new washing machine..and im 70 now..............i donthave an i-phone ...i have a nokia at £14.75 (new and charge it once/fortnite)...and spend about £7/mth.....i spend £10/mth on the internet

beats me how a marrided couple can order up £4000 grands worth of sofas on credit and when its delivered and a day old its worth at auction about £250 quid max...

my last washing machine was a Boshe....cost me £50 quid delivered........lasted 10 years..........

kids throw money arrouned as if it its going out of fashion...........

[Mice!]

On 14/07/2023 at 09:13, ShootingEgg said:

No thoughts from me other than the usual media stirring it up as always..

I have one job but if.push came to shove I'd get a 2nd. 

Exactly,  these threads always make me laugh, I wonder how many folk know people who are working two or three jobs?

I've seen one reply on here saying people are, and that's because the houses are so ridiculously priced in the South East.

On 14/07/2023 at 14:38, discobob said:

No Dentists, nigh on impossible to get a doctor - toll roads/bridges - the future of being charged per mile (as well as ULEZ et al). Roads in a terrible state.

TBH I think that a lot of money is going on making people more dependent on the state....

I'm not sure where you get that about Dr's and Dentists? 

We used the M6 toll last week going South and compared with the M6 coming back North it was an absolute pleasure,  I was amazed how bad the road was in places.

On 14/07/2023 at 14:23, 12gauge82 said:

What I want to know, is whos profiteering now. With both parts of a couple now working, the UK should be rolling in cash, with the public purse overflowing.

Back in the day jobs were easy to come by, the man would go to work and the woman make a home, that was enough for most to buy a house, have a comfortable lifestyle and funded the country's public services, with decent military expenditure, public toilets, road sweeps and a decent police force ect. Not to mention large infrastructure projects being built like nuclear power stations, motorways and hospitals. 

So what's happened? Someone somewhere is seeing the benefits but it's not the general public that's for sure.

I'm glad I'm not young in today's world.

But how many these days want to live well beyond their means, bigger houses, multiple cars, multiple foreign holidays and all the other expensive add ons, paid for on card meaning nothing gets saved, meaning things can go wrong very quickly!

On 14/07/2023 at 11:23, ditchman said:

the welding boys in yarmouth working for sea&land pipeline were on insane money and after working for 4 weeks used to go out and buy a new Porshe for cash

I worked with a fella who went contracting on the tools back in the 80s probably,  I think he said he went to Holland for a year, came home and bought a house for cash,  easy as that.

[ShootingEgg]

13 minutes ago, Mice! said:

But how many these days want to live well beyond their means, bigger houses, multiple cars, multiple foreign holidays and all the other expensive add ons, paid for on card meaning nothing gets saved, meaning things can go wrong very quickly!

This is pretty much how alot of people live now. Stick it on a card and worry later attitude.  Only issue is later will be a painful realisation of things being re possessed.

Myself and my other half are on okay money but are feeling the squeeze, but we don't do foreign holidays, we run a car each, one I own outright the other is a lease. Have basic sky package to get some perks out of that. 

As I said if I have to get a second job then I'd do it but right now the media can do it's normal fear tactics. 

Of course there are people out there who are struggling, but some who say they are have new cars, fancy new phone as soon as it's released, out all the time etc. But please poverty ..

 

[12gauge82]

1 hour ago, Mice! said:

Exactly,  these threads always make me laugh, I wonder how many folk know people who are working two or three jobs?

I've seen one reply on here saying people are, and that's because the houses are so ridiculously priced in the South East.

I'm not sure where you get that about Dr's and Dentists? 

We used the M6 toll last week going South and compared with the M6 coming back North it was an absolute pleasure,  I was amazed how bad the road was in places.

But how many these days want to live well beyond their means, bigger houses, multiple cars, multiple foreign holidays and all the other expensive add ons, paid for on card meaning nothing gets saved, meaning things can go wrong very quickly!

I worked with a fella who went contracting on the tools back in the 80s probably,  I think he said he went to Holland for a year, came home and bought a house for cash,  easy as that.

I think thats a false measure, many of the things that would have been expensive years ago, no longer are due to cheap foreign production costs and budget airlines ect. Even people on the bread line can afford cheap mobile devices and large screen tvs. 

Houses on the other hand, no chance.

[Mice!]

19 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

I think thats a false measure, many of the things that would have been expensive years ago, no longer are due to cheap foreign production costs and budget airlines ect. Even people on the bread line can afford cheap mobile devices and large screen tvs. 

Houses on the other hand, no chance.

But how many things are just unnecessary though?

Spending for the sake of it, like foreign holidays,  no body needs to go abroad, but it's nice, only how much are people spending to go away for a week or two?

Don't get me wrong,  we're going away,  but the cost isn't an issue for us thankfully. 

A lad in work got a really nice car a few years back on lease, I just laughed because he was just throwing serious money away,  it's dawned on him eventually and the car has gone.

[Bigbob]

Seen a lot of couples buying expensive houses in the new builds round here fine as they are both working and can afford it till the wife becomes pregnant them the house goes up for sale 

[ShootingEgg]

1 hour ago, Bigbob said:

Seen a lot of couples buying expensive houses in the new builds round here fine as they are both working and can afford it till the wife becomes pregnant them the house goes up for sale 

They bought out of their budget then.. myself and my partner bought a 19040's semi, both working with good incomes, decided to start a family, her mat leave was statutory so ****, now does a 3day week and we are able to stay in the house.. 

 

[12gauge82]

3 hours ago, Mice! said:

But how many things are just unnecessary though?

Spending for the sake of it, like foreign holidays,  no body needs to go abroad, but it's nice, only how much are people spending to go away for a week or two?

Don't get me wrong,  we're going away,  but the cost isn't an issue for us thankfully. 

A lad in work got a really nice car a few years back on lease, I just laughed because he was just throwing serious money away,  it's dawned on him eventually and the car has gone.

Probably quite alot of purchasing is unnecessary, but I think it misses the point, the extremely rich are becoming ever more so, while the average worker is becoming less so, I've been around long enough to see it. I'm not even talking financially either, the government has priced the young out of being able to afford going to the pub, not so long ago, most of the working masses would enjoy a trip to the pub over the weekend and get to know many of their fellow men, technically that was unnecessary expense but it built relationships and folk used to talk to each other and socialise, the young couldn't afford to do that now, even if they wanted to. I find it all very sad really.

[Wilts#Dave]

10 hours ago, 12gauge82 said:

Probably quite alot of purchasing is unnecessary, but I think it misses the point, the extremely rich are becoming ever more so, while the average worker is becoming less so, I've been around long enough to see it. I'm not even talking financially either, the government has priced the young out of being able to afford going to the pub, not so long ago, most of the working masses would enjoy a trip to the pub over the weekend and get to know many of their fellow men, technically that was unnecessary expense but it built relationships and folk used to talk to each other and socialise, the young couldn't afford to do that now, even if they wanted to. I find it all very sad really.

Good post. Isn’t the point of life and working hard, to be able to enjoy yourself (within reason obviously).       Not quite sure why some of the older folk who have paid off their mortgages / comfortable are so obsessed with saying everyone should learn to ‘struggle’ like they did and not have things etc etc. Shouldn’t things move on / get easier for people, not harder? 
I’m definitely all for not over spending with credit and never have done, but overall if people are working hard to merely exist it will surely make some think what’s the point? 
I guess it will always be the same, but it seems the middle of the road hard working folk are the ones who are most impacted every time. 
 

[London Best]

I have had a credit card continuously since 1981. 
I use it a lot. 
Not once have I failed to pay the bill at the end of the month. 
Therefore, it has not cost me a penny in interest over forty plus years. 
Credit cards do not necessarily mean you are going to get into debt.

[scobydog]

Tbh i don't personally know anyone who has a 2nd or 3rd job, asked my wife and she knows of no one either, obviously people do but not anyone i know, will ask the lads at work tomorrow see if they know anyone who does.

 

Atb Scobydog.

[Stephen-H]

I'm in full time employment & I have often pondered with the idea of picking up some evening shifts doing food delivery or amazon flex delivery as its flexible so you can work as & when you feel like it & pick up shifts to suit you. Can earn a few quid in the evening when you haven't got much on or at the weekend on a drizzly Sunday. All goes into the pot & eases the ever rising cost of living 

[JKD]

I'd like to know who/where these "most people" who have more than one job are ?!

Amongst my family/friends/colleagues etc, no individual person has a second or even third job. Partners have individual jobs, meaning two incomes in a household, but no 'other' jobs. So,,,, where does the title come from ?

[Bigbob]

On 15/07/2023 at 22:01, ShootingEgg said:

They bought out of their budget then.. myself and my partner bought a 19040's semi, both working with good incomes, decided to start a family, her mat leave was statutory so ****, now does a 3day week and we are able to stay in the house.. 

 

Aye we managed as well but got a helping hand from Maggies buy your own council home  , four years to the day we sold it and used it as a deposit on this place as we wanted more room for the kids and i wanted a drive and a garage LOL  

[Bigbob]

13 hours ago, London Best said:

I have had a credit card continuously since 1981. 
I use it a lot. 
Not once have I failed to pay the bill at the end of the month. 
Therefore, it has not cost me a penny in interest over forty plus years. 
Credit cards do not necessarily mean you are going to get into debt.

We use debit cards moneys no in your account we dont buy it  , its no hardship you want something bigger 3 piece suite , washing machine . cooker we put the surplus away in a another account to allow for this   

Never hear so much of it now but certainly when i was younger and working mon /Friday  it was easier guys where working the doors or had another cash in hand weekend job , The faverioute saying was the black market helped the world go round 

[Mice!]

On 15/07/2023 at 22:16, 12gauge82 said:

Probably quite alot of purchasing is unnecessary, but I think it misses the point, the extremely rich are becoming ever more so, while the average worker is becoming less so, I've been around long enough to see it. I'm not even talking financially either, the government has priced the young out of being able to afford going to the pub, not so long ago, most of the working masses would enjoy a trip to the pub over the weekend and get to know many of their fellow men, technically that was unnecessary expense but it built relationships and folk used to talk to each other and socialise, the young couldn't afford to do that now, even if they wanted to. I find it all very sad really.

How many young folk do you know? My niece works for a fast food outlet,  still lives at home, she has been away with her BF, going away with the girls soon and is out when work allows if she wants to.

The lads in work are out every single week,  mostly aged between 20-30

Like most of the replies say, no one knows anyone with a second or third job, but I don't doubt it happens,  probably people on low Income jobs, zero hour contracts working unsociable hours to make a wage and get by.

Me, these days I'm happy playing rugby then having a few beers, today I've chosen to not have a beer so I can go out shooting in about 5 or 6hrs 😁

[discobob]

On 15/07/2023 at 16:17, Mice! said:

I'm not sure where you get that about Dr's and Dentists? 

We used the M6 toll last week going South and compared with the M6 coming back North it was an absolute pleasure,  I was amazed how bad the road was in places.

I am on about a lack of services , and those that you have already will start to be charged meanwhile we are paying more and more tax ... Khan has admitted that he is looking at Pay Per Mile, and Wales is "Consulting" on it. It seems like the only new road infrastructure being invested in is camera's nationally

I managed a couple of years ago to get on with an NHS Dentist - after trying for over 10 years. She is as mad as a hatter but at least she is a dentist rather than a pair of pliers or a piece of string and a heavy door!! Only accepts Cash Payment which I do like.

Our Doctors was 3 weeks for an appointment before the pandemic - God only knows what it is now...

TBH I do think that the NHS is somewhere that some form of charging has to come into play, however, the Dentist has charging and that isn't having an impact.

By the way my views may be biased as I live in Wales...Also, our nearest big City and where I work, all the viable crossings are charged at £2 each way...

[London Best]

8 hours ago, Mice! said:

How many young folk do you know? My niece works for a fast food outlet,  still lives at home, she has been away with her BF, going away with the girls soon and is out when work allows if she wants to.

The lads in work are out every single week,  mostly aged between 20-30

 

And I bet they all moan that they can’t afford to save a deposit/buy their own place.

[Mice!]

34 minutes ago, London Best said:

And I bet they all moan that they can’t afford to save a deposit/buy their own place.

You couldn't be more wrong, but we are on decent money, but then while house prices are high everywhere things up here are far more reasonable,  the only lads in work I can think of who still live with parents are a couple of young apprentices, several living and bought with girlfriends. 

Others I know of are saving, the muppets who moan are the older ones who use the canteen three times a day and say they are always skint.

[Smudger687]

1 hour ago, London Best said:

And I bet they all moan that they can’t afford to save a deposit/buy their own place.

Yet another ignorant post. You wouldn't own a fraction of what you do now if you had to start over again in this day and age. 

[London Best]

33 minutes ago, Smudger687 said:

Yet another ignorant post. You wouldn't own a fraction of what you do now if you had to start over again in this day and age. 

B.S.

I have never earned decent money and never been skint in my life.
Never had anything on H.P.  
Always went without and saved until I could afford stuff. 
And made some very good investments. 
I decided when I was still an apprentice that I was NOT going to be a poor OAP.

Edited July 17, 2023 by London Best

[12gauge82]

10 hours ago, Mice! said:

How many young folk do you know? My niece works for a fast food outlet,  still lives at home, she has been away with her BF, going away with the girls soon and is out when work allows if she wants to.

The lads in work are out every single week,  mostly aged between 20-30

Like most of the replies say, no one knows anyone with a second or third job, but I don't doubt it happens,  probably people on low Income jobs, zero hour contracts working unsociable hours to make a wage and get by.

Me, these days I'm happy playing rugby then having a few beers, today I've chosen to not have a beer so I can go out shooting in about 5 or 6hrs 😁

Ive got family who are young and to be fair to them are very hard working, they earn decent wages but compared to the cost of living it doesn't buy them much.

The prospects for anyone under forty having anything like I had when I was younger without a high flying job is non existent.

Sure they might be able to afford a foreign holiday, mobile phone and a large tv. But those things are unimportant, they won't be able to buy a decent home, regularly socialise, or retire at a young enough age to enjoy much life. Like I said, I feel very sorry for them.

4 minutes ago, London Best said:

B.S.

I have never earned decent money and never been skint in my life.
Never had anything on H.P.  
Always went without and saved until I could afford stuff. 
And made some very good investments. 
I decided when I was still an apprentice that I was NOT going to be a poor OAP.

Have you not had a mortgage?

[London Best]

2 minutes ago, 12gauge82 said:

 

Have you not had a mortgage?

Yes. We have had two houses since we married in 1975. Sold the first one in 1979 and bought the present property. Long since paid off. No desire to move again (unless I spot surveyors in the surrounding fields!)

[12gauge82]

2 minutes ago, London Best said:

Yes. We have had two houses since we married in 1975. Sold the first one in 1979 and bought the present property. Long since paid off. No desire to move again (unless I spot surveyors in the surrounding fields!)

Cheers, when you said you'd never had anything on HP I thought you might have meant no mortgage either.

[London Best]

1 minute ago, 12gauge82 said:

Cheers, when you said you'd never had anything on HP I thought you might have meant no mortgage either.

I wish!